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I can confirm Reddit is indeed mad at the new upgrades.
they were losing their 8-A if they didn’t get tier 5 lmao???Unless Phobos was gonna get downgraded to hell and back, it'd never happen lol
Down to 9-A baby, only Alastor would remain 8-A, and nobody scales to him.they were losing their 8-A if they didn’t get tier 5 lmao???
Hank J. Wimbleton VS Vox is a lost gem it seems then.Down to 9-A baby, only Alastor would remain 8-A, and nobody scales to him.
100% Vox might have some scaling to Shok.wav who's 8-B+Hank J. Wimbleton VS Vox is a lost gem it seems then.
Shok.wav is superior to Vox, no?100% Vox might have some scaling to Shok.wav who's 8-B+
Probably nothing over 8-C, but ye can lookThere's a bunch of feats from Alastor vs 100% Vox that weren't calced.
He does brush off getting hit by his tail and the 8-B+ is just the power of Shok.wav moving aroundShok.wav is superior to Vox, no?
How Lucifer, Adam, Alastor, and Ch**lie genuinely would've been saving the verse if we got (Mostly) downgraded to 9B+ and 9-ADown to 9-A baby, only Alastor would remain 8-A, and nobody scales to him.
Yes, 100%.Also, regarding AWs' power nullification, I think it's safe to assume that it only works when it's restraining someone?
Winners do limitedly with light, and that's it.Hey does the Hellaverse have a universal energy system?
I know where this leads. People tank magic multiple times in this verse, so... yeah.Hey does the Hellaverse have a universal energy system? (Assuming not since that'd require writing, but making sure)
Wait so why does the overlords scale to their magic physically?Winners do limitedly with light, and that's it.
Yeah but wouldn't Vox kinda **** up the UES argument? Vox's power is based around his popularity and his ratings while other Overlords use their ownership of souls.I know where this leads. People tank magic multiple times in this verse, so... yeah.
What UES?Yeah but wouldn't Vox kinda **** up the UES argument? Vox's power is based around his popularity and his ratings while other Overlords use their ownership of souls.
Hell, the Goetia's magic doesn't come from souls either as far as i recall. Magic in the hellaverse seems to come from a plethora of places and can be based around how a sinner died instead of one power source.
I thought you were saying there was LMAOOOOOOOWhat UES?
The Goetia existing disproves Magic being a UES for demons, like I said, we have people tanking or trading blows with their magic, most notably Vox and Alastor as well as Velvette and Husk. There is no magical UES here.
Comi. I explained that not even 5 ******* minutes ago.Wait so why do they scale to the tier 5 thing physically if there isn't any UES.
They can tank each other's magic and physically harm each other tooWait so why do they scale to the tier 5 thing physically if there isn't any UES.
I'd read Alastor's profile but good ******* lord it explains his every scene in his attack potency.
But doesn't Andrealphus's magic simultaneously being diffed by 9-Bs while also being able to split clouds and such cause an issue for scaling on their end with that logic? Them tanking magic could mean anything tier wise.Comi. I explained that not even 5 ******* minutes ago.
**** his stupid ass attack potency section.
Guess who I'm ******* nerfing down to 9-B with magic, him and Stolas. Because neither of them have actual feats on the level.But doesn't Andrealphus's magic simultaneously being diffed by 9-Bs while also being able to split clouds and such? Them tanking magic could mean anything tier wise.
Don't they have this? (Which speaking of why doesn't Stolas have this on his profile lol)Guess who I'm ******* nerfing down to 9-B with magic, him and Stolas. Because neither of them have actual feats on the level.
Environmental destruction, lol.Don't they have this? (Which speaking of why doesn't Stolas have this on his profile lol)
Isn't this via Grimoire?
If that spell a separate tier, doesn't that prove that magic doesn't all use up a similar amount of power to each other?Environmental destruction, lol.
We can't allow helluva Boss profiles getting... gulp... ATTENTION!!!!!He'll get it back when that downgrade goes trhough.
aint the grimoire just a spell book? as far as i understand he can do the spells in it without it. (sometimes he kinda implies he needs it like for the harvest moon festival buuuuut)Isn't this via Grimoire?
OK, but how it would be useful in combat compared to literal 5-B forcefield?If that spell a separate tier, doesn't that prove that magic doesn't all use up a similar amount of power to each other?
I thought it was equipment lol, idk (never watched Helluva Bum)aint the grimoire just a spell book? as far as i understand he can do the spells in it without it. (sometimes he kinda implies he needs it like for the harvest moon festival buuuuut)
That's straight up just the fact we know Goetia magic is different from Sinner magic.If that spell a separate tier, doesn't that prove that magic doesn't all use up a similar amount of power to each other?
Yeah he does directly say he needs it for the festival, if he doesn't have it he can't do that lolaint the grimoire just a spell book? as far as i understand he can do the spells in it without it. (sometimes he kinda implies he needs it like for the harvest moon festival buuuuut)
moreso a point that not all magic shares the same power between all spells/techniques/glubshiddos/whatever, not how useful a tier 7 spell would be to a 5-B forcefield. (shocker, that idea on paper is useless)OK, but how it would be useful in combat compared to literal 5-B forcefield?
Does Helluva Boss actually make a separation between Goetia Magic and Sinner Magic? That sounds oddly thoughtful of the writers for the world building of hellaverse.That's straight up just the fact we know Goetia magic is different from Sinner magic.
That's a fair i suppose.I mean, Goetia's magic come from DS, Sinner magic comes from souls (except Alastor), as for Vox, it may be that it's specifically for Overlord tier characters to have extra means to get stronger, that part wasn't elaborated much, but it's still different from Goetia nature
Also, in the famous question people love to wank Stolas with, Viv directly says that that Alastor and Stolas' Powers work differently to eachother.That's a fair i suppose.
Ah, alright no wonder i was unaware I HATE WOG STATEMENTS GRAAAAAAAAAAAHAlso, in the famous question people love to wank Stolas with, Viv directly says that that Alastor and Stolas' Powers work differently to eachother.