Regarding anti-feats

[Dark_Soul20189]

I'm still iffy on the armor scaling since its got its own slew of problems as well and still contradicts the LS in place but maybe the mace is fine for LS you could calculate the LS there but idk how you'd go about that


The netherite armor is the only one I'd be fine with as a possibly rating at most otherwise I'd say none of it works

I remember arguing against it. (Not to mention how we have no such material in the real world)

I disagree with that, since it would require far more weight than a eqvipment, no matter how we use it, and it appears to have no actual affect on speed and mass.

Eqvipment we at least have coldowns, that could be used as explanations for how often "steve" is capable of swinging it in full force, so LS and Stamina.

The issue is that ONLY Netherite has it, so it's not a weight thing, but rather just a better dispersion of directional force.

So yeah, it's not a weight thing, but rather just much better protection.

 

[Dalesean027]

I suppose durability can also cause you to withstand the force of a blow better and not be knocked back that is true as well, then yeah I'm against it as well

 

[IDK3465]

As much as I do believe armor should count, if the majority consensus says otherwise, I guess I'm forced to concede and say only tools and entities themselves count (if Mojang adds armor weight mechanics in a later drop, just know that I ******* called it and I don't care if it makes me a sore loser or not, I'd just be glad I was right.)

Anyway, does this mean our new agreed-upon maximum mass Steve can carry is 2 maces (1 in the main hand, 1 in the off hand), or is there still an issue? What even are maces made of? Tungsten? Lead?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Anyway, does this mean our new agreed-upon maximum mass Steve can carry is 2 maces (1 in the main hand, 1 in the off hand), or is there still an issue? What even are maces made of? Tungsten? Lead?

Any tool would be acceptable to use for an LS calc.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Maybe using gravel or sand wouldn't be a horrible idea too as long as it doesn't contradict the other stuff

 

[Mr. Bambu]

As much as I do believe armor should count, if the majority consensus says otherwise, I guess I'm forced to concede and say only tools and entities themselves count (if Mojang adds armor weight mechanics in a later drop, just know that I ******* called it and I don't care if it makes me a sore loser or not, I'd just be glad I was right.)

Anyway, does this mean our new agreed-upon maximum mass Steve can carry is 2 maces (1 in the main hand, 1 in the off hand), or is there still an issue? What even are maces made of? Tungsten? Lead?

Lead seems unlikely, just because it isn't generally associated with weaponry. It's bad for that. Tungsten is on the table for something generally presumed to be denser than iron, at least.

 

[IDK3465]

bump ig?

 

[Dalesean027]

Whats left now?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Whats left now?

@IDK3465 wanted to do some calcs, so I thought it would be good to wait till he had created a calc replacement. (so we at least have some values to work with.)

 

[IDK3465]

@IDK3465 wanted to do some calcs, so I thought it would be good to wait till he had created a calc replacement. (so we at least have some values to work with.)

I was waiting for us to agree on what material the maces are made of, personally I’d vouch for tungsten, but I’d be willing to see some other opinions

 

[Dalesean027]

I was waiting for us to agree on what material the maces are made of, personally I’d vouch for tungsten, but I’d be willing to see some other opinions

If not tungsten then lead could work as its denser than iron and was used in blunt weaponry like maces already

 

[IDK3465]

If not tungsten then lead could work as its denser than iron and was used in blunt weaponry like maces already

Didn’t Bambu just say that he disagreed with using lead?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah. Lead was used as a weight for them, but never as the sole material. In my view, it doesn't do to use lead. Tungsten is conceivable imo. I'd sign off on that.

 

[IDK3465]

Yeah. Lead was used as a weight for them, but never as the sole material. In my view, it doesn't do to use lead. Tungsten is conceivable imo. I'd sign off on that.

Tungsten it is then!

Anyway, once I get the calc done and accepted, would it be fine if I included it in a larger CRT I’ve been working on?

 

[IDK3465]

Sorry for the wait, but I finally got it done
If any calc members want to go ahead and tell me how much of a stupid dumbass I am in the form of an evaluation, you may

(also, for now I just want to focus on getting the calcs accepted MATHMATICALLY, once we get that done, we can then determine if it's an outlier or not)

 

[IDK3465]

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Hey Bambu, I responded to your comment on my calc

 

[Dalesean027]

Sorry for the wait, but I finally got it done
If any calc members want to go ahead and tell me how much of a stupid dumbass I am in the form of an evaluation, you may

(also, for now I just want to focus on getting the calcs accepted MATHMATICALLY, once we get that done, we can then determine if it's an outlier or not)

sorry btw I've been busy and haven't been able to look but I should be able to get to it sometime tomorrow if not on saturday

 

[IDK3465]

Ok, sorry for it taking so long, but the calc for Steve's LS finally got accepted, and it seems like we're looking at Class 10, possibly Class 50
If anyone disagrees, say what you need to say.