Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

[Phsccarvalho]

Just because it's officially used doesn't mean that we have to agree to it

Yes... we do.

We follow what is officially defined (exceptions are if there is nothing official or something contradictory).

Nobody here likes Star Wars Episode 9, but we can't ignore it just because we don't like it. I can't include Legends content in the canon because I like some Legends content and want to use it in the canon. I also can't ignore canon content just because I don't like it.

That's not how the wiki works.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I like some Legends content and want to use it in the canon.

Does this include everything pre-Phantom Menace?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Because we use what is officially used by the franchise. Whether you like the date system or not is not a relevant factor.

My words didn't come out right then, I was more asking how well the dating system actually works in context to the lore whether or not it is what is officially used.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Does this include everything pre-Phantom Menace?

I didn't understand your question.

My words didn't come out right then, I was more asking how well the dating system actually works in context to the lore whether or not it is what is officially used.

Yes, it exists; it was cited and used in "The Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire."

This date system exists and was used within the Star Wars universe. Besides being the system used by Disney (as in the book "Timelines"), and being the main and most used/recognized date system in Star Wars, it's the one we use.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I didn't understand your question.

Like if you could would you include everything in the Expanded Universe that chronologically came before The Phantom Menace?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Like if you could would you include everything in the Expanded Universe that chronologically came before The Phantom Menace?

The guys from the old republic seem nice.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I think a calculation of the destruction of Luke's Jedi Temple would be good, since the Force is UES.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Finally I found it again.

Skywalker A family at War

 

[DaReaperMan]

I think a calculation of the destruction of Luke's Jedi Temple would be good, since the Force is UES.

Ew K**o R*n feat

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

The high 7-C downgrade is funny in hindsight now, but do wonder who will be good matches in 6-B

naruto peeps they got recent buffs so a ton are 6-B

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

So... who's going to make the super mega hyper CRT?

Star Wars: Looks like Tier 6 is back on the menu boys!

High 6-A AP This calc which got approved on a previous CRT was unfortunately done incorrectly, since then another calc has been made that more accurately reflects the AP of the feat at 4.68797E+17 Tons of TNT/s and 8.73761E+18 N, this affects a lot of characters putting them solidly in High 6-A...

vsbattles.com

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

naruto peeps they got recent buffs so a ton are 6-B

They still have the passive "kill yourself" aura though.

 

[DaReaperMan]

They still have the passive "kill yourself" aura though.

LowTierGod?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

LowTierGod?

Pfft- I mean they might as well be going by the Land of Waves Arc.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

They still have the passive "kill yourself" aura though.

I thought that was Bleach

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I thought that was Bleach

No that's soul destruction, I'm talking about when Zabuza and Kakashi mildly glaring at each for a few seconds caused Sasuke to damn near commit suicide out of genuine fear while being frozen in place.

 

[Legion350]

I think a calculation of the destruction of Luke's Jedi Temple would be good, since the Force is UES.

To scale Luke or Kylo?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

To scale Luke or Kylo?

I don't scale to anyone considering high 6-A, but I think reaching tier 7 would be good.

 

[Legion350]

Isn’t much of a supporting feat, but it could be decently Tier 7 depending on the condition of the temple afterwards.

Also holy shit, Kylo Ren is way older than I thought. I thought he was at most early to mid twenties, but he was 24 when he destroyed the Jedi Temple.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Also holy shit, Kylo Ren is way older than I thought. I thought he was at most early to mid twenties

I'd thought he was still in his teens

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Finally I found it again.

This somewhat explains why Ben can only defeat the Knights of Ren with a lightsaber.

Considering how unbalanced Ben is, it makes sense that he needs a lightsaber to stay mentally focused.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@Phsccarvalho https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...lightsaber#Expanded_Universe_Lightsaber_power

 

[DaReaperMan]

@Phsccarvalho https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...lightsaber#Expanded_Universe_Lightsaber_power

Another tier 6 feat for people who use Tutaminis(or whatever the spelling is) to deal with lighsabers.

 

[Grand_Astartes]

(or whatever the spelling is)

That's actually the right spelling tbf

 

[Doggo]

Funny 6-C glow stick

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Electric Boogaloo

Grievous vs Hazbin Staff, THE RUNBACK (SWEU vs HH)

Unfortunately The HH verse is sadly Low 5-B possibly 5-B. atleast I can put them against Legends Grievous! Rules: -Speed is Equalized -5-B for HH is restricted -Battle takes place on the Death Star -20 Meter Distance Diff Grievous: Atleast Scales to 59.44 Zettatons Scales to 134.434564...

vsbattles.com

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Isn’t much of a supporting feat, but it could be decently Tier 7 depending on the condition of the temple afterwards.

In live action, that's how it works.

But I think the result would be better by calculating the storm creation rather than the AP for destroying the temple, right?

Those feats of creating clouds/storms always end up in tier 7/6.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Electric Boogaloo

Grievous vs Hazbin Staff, THE RUNBACK (SWEU vs HH)

Unfortunately The HH verse is sadly Low 5-B possibly 5-B. atleast I can put them against Legends Grievous! Rules: -Speed is Equalized -5-B for HH is restricted -Battle takes place on the Death Star -20 Meter Distance Diff Grievous: Atleast Scales to 59.44 Zettatons Scales to 134.434564...

vsbattles.com

This is a squash due to High 5-A

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

This is a squash due to High 5-A

damn

 

[DaReaperMan]

This is a squash due to High 5-A

Grievous does not scale to Naga Sadow and Nihilus...

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

@Phsccarvalho since you'll be doing LEGO Star Wars, will you also do Robot Chicken Star Wars?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

@Phsccarvalho since you'll be doing LEGO Star Wars

what?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

what?

 

[Abduwoah]

Canon jedi have class p lifting strength while legends jedi have just class g. Are there any class p or higher ls feats for legend jedi

 

[Phsccarvalho]

But I'm not going to make Lego CRTs.

Canon jedi have class p lifting strength while legends jedi have just class g. Are there any class p or higher ls feats for legend jedi

I totally forgot that Canon now crushes Legends through LS.

This is going to be fun.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Canon jedi have class p lifting strength while legends jedi have just class g. Are there any class p or higher ls feats for legend jedi

Oh, the verse with 4-Bs who shouldn't be anything of the sort don't have class P LS, Now we're gonna starve...

 

[Grand_Astartes]

Canon jedi have class p lifting strength while legends jedi have just class g. Are there any class p or higher ls feats for legend jedi

Maybe. Later in the year hopefully I'll have time to compile legends LS feats alongside other things. I wouldn't be surprised if there are > Class P feats for Mid-tier Legends characters and above.

 

[Epyriel]

Yo, it has been a while but I finally have some free time to overhaul Legends.

Towards that end, is anyone aware of any decent speed calcs for Legends characters that don’t use megalights aside the TCW Kenobi and Guri ones?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yo, it has been a while but I finally have some free time to overhaul Legends.

Towards that end, is anyone aware of any decent speed calcs for Legends characters that don’t use megalights aside the TCW Kenobi and Guri ones?

Aren't Blaster bolts SoL for legends? Just find the most stupid feats possible regarding Jedi or Sith ******* over blasters.

 

[Epyriel]

Aren't Blaster bolts SoL for legends? Just find the most stupid feats possible regarding Jedi or Sith ******* over blasters.

Nah only energy weapons.

Common misconception, because there are a ton of LS statements for lasers and energy weapons so people kind of just gloss over that and assumes it means blasters as well despite them working completely differently and not actually having any LS statements of their own.