No, Eden. I think that they were adding magical energy to it to form the forcefield, which was being led by Charlie and Emily. That's why it was getting more and more full with more people and power.
...which is 5-B...
Was more referring to Hell becoming a threat to Heaven via Lilith thing, buuuuuuuuut
Ig that's one interpretation. You still sorta need an Energy System to scale them to their pure magic tho
It can't be an Energy System without the song amp, there's no proof for so.
Only Overlords can contribute to the barrier (They the only ones with magic) so like, obviously she'd tell him to go help if he was just looking from the sidelines lol
Why not just land some random power just enough to be able to cast magic (something Overlords can do in general, see Alastor-Husk) or take another Overlord (reminder that at Karmilla’s meetings those were “sovereign” Overlords… although this is more speculative I guess). She was clearly mad at him and she definitely hated the idea of rewarding “a snake like him” for defying her.
Adam > Full Power Alastor > Weakened Alastor > Near-100% Vox > AW > Adam
Husk was already an Overlord beforehand, so that likely plays a role in it and Alastor couldn’t just turn any random Sinner into an Overlord with a single deal.
Correct.
Fair, but he likely just let him keep souls he owned. Why can’t Rosie temporarily transfer some souls? Or any other Overlord do that?
They would watch themselves die unless they do!
I think that too, but I don’t think that enough would be to restore his power to fullest after what he did.
I meant in more conventional ways rather than giving Alastor staffs to anyone. Just giving them souls ig (she clearly owns the entire Cannibal Town).
Taking a few punches to the face and getting up just as fast isn't going to make Adam weaker than Weakened Alastor, come on.
I assume the less souls she'd have the weaker she'd be, so in the end, it wouldn't be any different than helping by herself? Probably?
She also probably couldn't just TP a random Overlord to her location, Alastor could do it to Husk in the pilot cause he owned him probably.
He was beaten up by Lu multiple times, so why not
That happened before he scratched the shield no?
She’s not a Sinner tho… pretty sure being stronger via souls is just Sinner thing. Just like you yourself propose below too:
Once again, the exorcists are not stronger that any average demon, we just don't like the way the show handles their "invulnerability", if we just accept that, then things would be easier
Everyone outside of eden pretty much does
Adam tanking Lu's full power over and over again, but that last punch just made his power plummet to Overlord levels?
Nothing would really boost his Approval Rating between those two scenes, like Vox Dei already happened in both, right?
Erm are we forgetting authors themselves smh…
Don’t think he was really tanking, more like enduring or withstanding.
Eh, it still only grew to 100% after Charlie admitted he was the strongest Sinner, and approval rating naturally rises overtime the more people hear about the guy and believe in whatever he did. It’s unlikely a hundred of billions watch him at the same time and support, it’s likely that more and more people learned about his glory everyday, and the royal concession of his superiority hammered it.
So like I just want to ask everyone here something, why doesn't the barrier just poof into existence instantly, why is there a build-up?
Bro never heard of dramatic timing.
Do you like actually believe they lied about the implications in the song or something, cause genuinely what do you think they meant by that?
I think the WoG is dumb, not actually supported by the show beyond superficial stuff, and that Vivize is an untrustworthy writer so unless something is heavily supported/stated in the show itself we should not use WoGs from her.
Because they are only all around 1/14th of Lucifer? When it shrinks, that's because 1/14th out of their (at the time) 4/14ths energy stopped putting in her power. It's not build-up, they literally just can't stop putting in energy or else the minimum requirement goes under the full 14/14ths, so thats why.
Now why are you bringing up Angelic Invulnerability, we're not bringing it back twin
Ik, but it's still the better answer, because now we genuinely are saying that exorcists are stronger than overlords, when one couldn't even overpower Angel.
Exactly, you THINK it's dumb. You don’t have a single contradiction from the show, no actual example of Vivzie being "untrustworthy" and zero evidence she’s ever retconned herself. In fact, she consistently does the opposite, she goes out of her way to clarify shit when people misunderstand it.
It's powerscaling, people don't liek threatening agenda. (AL still downscales Adam tho)
Lowkenuinly planning on riding all WOG
I'm talking about it building up at all, it shrinking is counter-evidence to the Agnaa method where it's presumed every second the cast gives it more energy.
nahHow about we make it so no one scales not even Lucifer so everyone stays Town level and we make Adam Planetary
Oh, no thats stupid. The way the barrier works is clearly like minecraft bed rules. All players must sleep for the night to pass.
And if one doesnt. Then it shows #/# players
Actually, thats REALLY stupid. Because they had 4/14ths the people needed and like 4 minutes before the others joined in, how long would it have taken to make the difference in that case? Surely they made it 5/14ths by then. That just brings in too many new issues. Again.
1) Invulnerability needs a mechanic beyond "uhhhhhh they're stated to be invulnerable" and literally has anti-feats to it.
So remove all the WOG from the verse if you consider HH's WOG bad, including the WOG about heaven and hell being planets.
Then resistance, and those anti-feats can all just be Plot induced Stupidity, I bet I could actually solve most of them if you just told me, because the only one that really counts are the little scratches on Lutes face when the ruble fell on her. Ripping her arm off was done by her (an angel) so that isn't an anti-feat for anything other than lifting at most, her arm didn't even disconnect at the point the ruble had her, it tore off from her shoulder. And I bet I could easily enough explain the others cuz, I gotta be honest, I didn't really notice any actual anti-feats when constantly reviewing the battle, aside from the only one I mentioned being valid.
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