ShionAH
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Absolutely, a TRANSFORMED Lucifer couldn’t put him down for more than a few seconds and we see him tank casual Lucifer with no problems at all
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in my opinion I never understood the need to hard require guns to be a specific level when Swordsmen have been getting away with far higher sword stats for so long.
Also, I find the idea that "being threatened by guns" to be a very funny interpretation when Husk in the scene is literally confident in soloing those guys, doesn't get harmed, and comes out a winner. Like just because I point a gun at Superman and threaten him doesn't make him less bulletproof
Also, I find the idea that "being threatened by guns" to be a very funny interpretation when Husk in the scene is literally confident in soloing those guys, doesn't get harmed, and comes out a winner. Like just because I point a gun at Superman and threaten him doesn't make him less bulletproof
Eden_Warlock99
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Actually we straight-up know Sir Pentious uses enriched uranium for his killing machines, and he gets that from Carmilla.
There's no special 5-B Hell metal lol
DarkLock92
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I wouldn't say no problems, bro was panting and even bleeding after a single punch (Keep in mind the punch didn't even hit his nose directly)
Eden_Warlock99
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I know Dragon Ball has stuff like characters imbuing their swords with Ki and stuff like that
I don't know many other Tier 5+ verses
Literally the first thing he does is go run behind a car. Have you ever seen Superman run for cover from guns lol
Husk also has stuff like being restrained by regular sinners too.
DarkLock92
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We don't know if Husk fought back at all, especially considering that it's his casino and those are his employees.
ShionAH
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To be fair that was when he was off guardI wouldn't say no problems, bro was panting and even bleeding after a single punch (Keep in mind the punch didn't even hit his nose directly)
You can see him get hit RIGHT in the spine by a Horse Lucifer’s DOUBLE BACK KICK (4x Force) and he comes back to attack in moments with absolutely no problem
(1:36)
DarkLock92
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It's a better feat, but Lucifer was clearly messing around at this point.
Eden_Warlock99
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He's in a drunken state and looks like tried to beat up the guy just before this?
ShionAH
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I mean yeah, that’s why I said casual Lucifer
Anonymous_Learner
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ShionAH
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No? He was just angry he lost, tf type of argument is this its his own casino and there wasn’t anyone who tried to fight him or anyone he tried to actually fight with
Eden_Warlock99
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The 5-A Raditz after he takes a shot:We're using a Drunk version of Husk as an anti-feat...?
Mythic381
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I already mentioned previous reasons why I think Lucifer should be considered weaker for that feat but I guess no one cares enough to fix problems.
Yes, but the reason one of the calculations were removed was due to faulty timeframes.
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Okay I am sick has hell, but I say yes to everything, but should not ******* scale to Lucifer AT ALL.
Lucifer was literally ******* him like he said he would, Adam had not change at all, and the only reason he survived is do to Charlie being pure of heart and wanted to spare him
Lucifer was literally ******* him like he said he would, Adam had not change at all, and the only reason he survived is do to Charlie being pure of heart and wanted to spare him
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Doesn't need to be tier 5 specifically, most weapons aren't getting past tier 8 IRL and there's a plethora of verses like that
No however Husk isn't a Superman type of fighter. There are weapons in the verse capable of harming and killing him if hes not careful, i dont think we should be counting basic tactics as anti-feats when in the same example he's standing out with automatic weapons firing at him just fine. Being safe rather than sorry is a good mindset
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You know what I agree with, it’s highest option for all of them.
DarkLock92
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You can say the same about Alastor tbh, we have Rosie outright saying that he couldn't have beaten Adam.
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Fiction with feats above tier 9: exist
Evil and intimidating falling, knives and guns anti-feats:
Evil and intimidating falling, knives and guns anti-feats:
Mythic381
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Said the wanker as he wanked:
Anonymous_Learner
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Man, aren't you a part of the group who thinks Uni Heaven/Hell and Uni angels?
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Fair enough so I’ll give my basic reasoning here too.
Basically shield was not growing no matter how much time they spent, it only grew once it joined, so it is not an accumulation of energy but rather sustaining the energy they are providing.
Beam needed to reach the thing a certain amount of time, not to perform the KE feat, so I don’t think the former is very relevant.
General of Exorcists has too many feats of downscaling to Lucifer.
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I personally dgaf about most of the stats stuff, so I'll keep opinions to myself. But obviously I agree with the profile formats themselves considering I made like half of em and assisted with most of the others (I'll probably double check some to make sure everythings up and up still and nobody snuck in a goofy aah power)
Eden_Warlock99
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I think those get some leeway cause Tier 9-8 still comfortably falls under what most people would call "Street Tiers"
Like our calcs almost always overshoot what the creators actually had in mind when portraying a feat (See JJK having Mach 1 as impressive despite the 6 or so higher speed calcs that exist in it and was performed by slower characters), so stuff like High 8-C Spiderman or 8-C Hank aren't that extreme or absurd of ratings.
But when you get to planetary ranges, it sorta, gets to a point? No writer is going to think "this character can destroy a planet. Oh also guns hurt them."
Those same weapons (If they were actually Tier 5) would just shred right through that car? And if you're referring to angelic weapons, are extremely rare and have only recently become available in the last 7 years? Also I don't think I need to explain why the shooters missing doesn't indicate anything at all, unless you think John Wick is actually bulletproof lol
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Overlords accumulating millions of souls just to be 9-A bums that die to basic falling from the building is really funny tho, y’all have to admit that :3
Eden_Warlock99
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This is why Alastor had the right idea, just wish to be the strongest. Ez Tier 5
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I agree
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I mean, 9-A isn't many millions of times bigger than 10-B (human tier)? Then it makes sense.
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I wasn't referring to tier 8 verses and just those that are considered beyond tier 8 in general
And this kinda goes into your logic for "people aren't thinking that when writing". Even the angelic weapons which would be at this level aren't doing that type of terrain damage.
The logic of angelic weapons doesn't make sense since this isn't a flashback thing and literally is during a period where they are more widely avaliable for 7 years. As an overlord he'd be very familiar with their threat.
And as for accuracy, thats a irrelevant point. It holds just as much water as him jumping for cover. If you argue he isn't bulletproof just because he went for a better position then you can just the same argue that he IS because he jumped into automatic fire and stayed there for a bit without a care. Im not saying either or these are good arguments, im saying they prove nothing one way or another
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Ngl I agree with Eden
Mythic381
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Point to what about it is wanking.
You do know it was a joke right? I don't actually think the highest calc is wrong
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Well, the opposition has not yet argued against the increased power derived from song.
Aolphl
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Well, this argument is much better than arguing anti-feats
Nvm i give my opinion later,
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So when do we skip to the part where every profile gets "Tier 5 when singing"?
Eden_Warlock99
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If Angelic Steel is actually meant to be super strong metal, the bullet would just, pierce through the car?
Like no one’s expecting it to behave like a realistic Tier 5 projectile and vaporize everything in sight, but at least like, pierce through regular ass cars?
Maybe he's just stupid then. The fact he even hid behind cover means those guns pose a danger to him, him then jumping out in the open is going to put him in danger?
It was in my first post
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The steel was tough enough to fall from Неаven to Hell and not be annihilated, but isn’t good enough to pierce cars… smh…
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No, but there are explosives that also use them making a tier 5 bomb that looks like its in tier 9 or how the bullets aren't shredding through literally everything. Also that's kinda a non-argument to the points since it would be smarter to hide behind cover regardless since the car covers line of sight. Like the main point of your argument is that Husk would be harmed by the normal guns aren't proven by any of that.
Hmm, so by your logic him ducking in cover from weapons he doesn't have confirmation are angelic or not makes him stupid? God damn I didn't know Val was actually a Supergenius for his tactics!
The fact he hid behind cover means he's smart enough to not be a Homelander and assume you are unstoppable to literally everything. He had no way to confirm what weapons they were using until after they started shooting which at that point he confidently took them out without care for the bullets firing at him. That's not stupidity thats just basic caution
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Oh, and also Vaggie and base Charlie remain bums!
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