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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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Thought it was a different aegis but either way it’s after 1990 and it’s while beyonder is making themself mortal as in not as powerful as normal, 1990 is when he became kosmos which we rate as 1-A, and that battle being 4 dimensional to 5 dimensional is once again purely based on vibesSee here:
Aegis (Proemial God) (Earth-616)
6 appearance(s) of Aegis (Proemial God) (Earth-616) 1 appearance(s) in handbook(s) of Aegis (Proemial God) (Earth-616) 1 minor appearance(s) of Aegis (Proemial God) (Earth-616) 7 image(s) of Aegis (Proemial God) (Earth-616) Aegis (Proemial God) on Marvel.commarvel.fandom.com
She first appeared in 2006 during the original Annihilation storyline, preceded by when Beyonder appeared in his/her Maker incarnation, and she was killed by the Silver Surfer pushing her into the Crunch, the outer edge of the Marvel universe, which doesn't exactly fit with exceeding a High 1-B entity, much less one that is 1-A.
How was the Beyonder upgraded to 1-A in 1990? That was near the time of his 4-dimensional or 5-dimensional battle with the Molecule Man.
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I’m responding to your comments, that I personally think are illogical, we are both spamming illogical comments in the opinion of the other of us let’s just agree to disagree to stop wasting your time like I already suggestedAlso, again, stop wasting my time with endless illogical spam comments please.
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No, it is based on blatantly exhibited feats from this character exerting himself/herself to his/her limits. Our current ratings for the post-retcon Beyonder do not make any logical sense whatsoever. You are the one spamming content-deprived arguments based on "vibes" rather than any facts.
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I’m making arguments based on the fact that it’s said their infinite dimensional that is a fact not a vibe, and you have provided nothing for the post retcon pre kosmos beyonder not being high 1-B other than them losing to characters that you have provided no evidence for not being infinite dimensionalNo, it is based on blatantly exhibited feats from this character exerting himself/herself to his/her limits. Our current ratings do not make any logical sense whatsoever. You are the one spamming content-deprived arguments based on "vibes" rather than any facts whatsoever.
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Ant, cmon, he’s not trolling.
You think that the two statements are incompatible for Post Retcon Beyonder, he disagrees. You provided him your reasoning, and he provided his. Obviously Rger won’t reach a consensus with you, but that doesn’t mean he’s “stone walling” or “trolling”. Just…a different opinion.
You think that the two statements are incompatible for Post Retcon Beyonder, he disagrees. You provided him your reasoning, and he provided his. Obviously Rger won’t reach a consensus with you, but that doesn’t mean he’s “stone walling” or “trolling”. Just…a different opinion.
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No you haven’t provided any evidence other than beyonder having feats that are lower than high 1-B which doesn’t contradict him being high 1-B because those aren’t his limit, and him losing to characters that you haven’t provided eveidence for those characters not being high 1-B, and stuff that doesn’t apply to his high 1-B key, and I’m not stonewalling or mindlessly spamming or trolling I am debunking your arguments that I view as illogical, also I have proposed multiple times that we should agree to disagree so if you think it’s pointless to talk to me about this then don’t talk to me about it until someone makes a CRT about itI have provided plenty of evidence, but it is pointless to talk with somebody who is stonewalling with endless mindless spam to the point that I suspect that you are trolling.
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I will cut off our discussion here, since I feel like banging my head repeatedly against a wall from extensively talking with you, and because I am very behind with my regular work of taking care of this community and cannot afford to waste any more hours attempting to appeal to reason and sanity regarding this topic.
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I know you probably weren’t looking for an apology but I apologize for making you feel like banging your head against a wall, I don’t require a response to this message since I know that would take away from your time furtherI will cut off our discussion here, since I feel like banging my head repeatedly against a wall from extensively talking with you, and because I am very behind with my regular work of taking care of this community and cannot afford to waste any more hours attempting to appeal to reason and sanity regarding this topic.
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Anyway, should we go ahead with what was mentioned in the following post?
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
I wonder when we’re going to say **** it and just give up trying to make a lot of this stuff make sense and adhere to our tiering system. Like, just put a big ol’ disclaimer on some of the mystic shit that says “Yeah we know this doesn’t make sense but it’s comics so lol”. Would make the whole...
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I agree with the proposal, but I’m iffy about applying it now since your the only staff members that’s agreed with itAnyway, should we go ahead with what was mentioned in the following post?
The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
I wonder when we’re going to say **** it and just give up trying to make a lot of this stuff make sense and adhere to our tiering system. Like, just put a big ol’ disclaimer on some of the mystic shit that says “Yeah we know this doesn’t make sense but it’s comics so lol”. Would make the whole...
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Wanda Restrains a Black Hole
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Did this calc for @Eseseso, but it’s kind of *****, since I had to use Wanda’s weight to find some value for force (magic shields don’t have a standard weight, as far as I know), but that would imply she’s physically Class P, which….obviously ain’t quite right. Black Hole shenanigans ain’t exactly my forte, so I’m sure there’s a better way to do it, but I’m stumped. Thoughts?
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Just scale to Captain Marvel who lifted itWanda Restrains a Black Hole
Did this calc for @Eseseso, but it’s kind of *****, since I had to use Wanda’s weight to find some value for force (magic shields don’t have a standard weight, as far as I know), but that would imply she’s physically Class P, which….obviously ain’t quite right. Black Hole shenanigans ain’t exactly my forte, so I’m sure there’s a better way to do it, but I’m stumped. Thoughts?
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It is not really a full revision, just an uncontroversial change to follow our standard naming conventions.
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That’s why I said I’m iffy instead of fully disagree with applying it nowIt is not really a full revision, just an uncontroversial change to follow our standard naming conventions.
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DC Comics is Crushing Marvel Comics in Sales and We Shouldn’t Be Surprised
DC Comics is surging in the comic book markets and taking the tops spots while Marvel Comics is being edged out by its direct competition.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the "Absolute Universe" comics were helping out DC a lot.What a shocker, who knew that doing anything besides pushing power scaling slop works?DC Comics is Crushing Marvel Comics in Sales and We Shouldn’t Be Surprised
DC Comics is surging in the comic book markets and taking the tops spots while Marvel Comics is being edged out by its direct competition.
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That, and KO just being some crazy powerscaling slop to keep that crowd busy, while also appealing to older fans with all the callbacks and forms. They went back to the basics by reimagining the classics, and honestly, at this point, maybe that’s what Marvel needs to do.
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Modern DC was always about powerslop, especially their "street" level mfs.
Absolute is CARRYING HARD DC lately, and for good reason, it's extremely above their main stuff, lmao.
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What Marvel needs to do is make ANOTHER Taskmaster mini-series, WHOSE WITH ME???
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Doubt it’s going to single-handedly make marvel ahead of DC but it could definitely be worth reading if done right
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Pleeease, bro, pleeeease
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I'm back folks, and I've been totally out of the loop with the wiki.
What's going on with Marvel, nowadays? And why haven't we nuked the 5-B tier yet? >:v
What's going on with Marvel, nowadays? And why haven't we nuked the 5-B tier yet? >:v
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It has already been nuked, but a replacement hasn't been decided yet.
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Doom is dead, the Ultimate Universe is ending, and the X-Men are the same as ever.
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Why did you pick the worst stuff???
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Oh, Scarlet Witch is the new Sorceress Supreme, and the Norse Realms are cut off from the mortal realms.
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I felt it was the most relevant...
Speaking of relevant, did we ever establish why Marvel is so obsessed with this story?
Marvel revisits its most divisive event with ‘Civil War: Unmasked’
This May, CIVIL WAR: UNMASKED, a new series by Christos Gage and Edgar Salazar, reveals all-new stories set during the explosive era of Marvel Comics’ Civil War event.
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Not that spider man and iron man and Thor and hulk have been doing cool stuff
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Witch Hunters (Warhammer Fantasy)
Imperial Witch Hunters, or Templar Witch Hunters of the Cult of Sigmar are the Empire of Man's answer to what goes bump in the night; From Chaos Cultists and Warpstone corruption to Necromancers and Vampires, Witch Hunters are known to face off against all of Mankind's enemies within the borders...
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Maybe base iceman with speed equalizedI be looking for matches.Witch Hunters (Warhammer Fantasy)
Imperial Witch Hunters, or Templar Witch Hunters of the Cult of Sigmar are the Empire of Man's answer to what goes bump in the night; From Chaos Cultists and Warpstone corruption to Necromancers and Vampires, Witch Hunters are known to face off against all of Mankind's enemies within the borders...
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Good luck finding good 9-B profiles that aren't outdated.I be looking for matches.Witch Hunters (Warhammer Fantasy)
Imperial Witch Hunters, or Templar Witch Hunters of the Cult of Sigmar are the Empire of Man's answer to what goes bump in the night; From Chaos Cultists and Warpstone corruption to Necromancers and Vampires, Witch Hunters are known to face off against all of Mankind's enemies within the borders...
Maybe Moon Knight once I bring him back to 9-B.
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Pretty sure Daredevil skill stomps the 9-Bs, kingpin could maybe be a nice fight for the 9-As if kingpin is at his 8-C end, high 8-Cs might have a good chance against spider man, iceman could be a good fight for the 8-As or 7-Cs
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Isn't baseline 8-C like 2000 megajoules or something?
And Spider-Man definitely skill stomps lmfao
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About 1000 megajoules actually, and kingpin has like zero skill as far as I know and kingpin doesn’t resist fire and poison and pain manipulation if they bring their stuff for those, I can definitely see them winning in a smallish group
Those guys look kind of skilled, I think that in a group they might be able to give him a challenge
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