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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

Are you guys sure Vader really is no match for even MGS4 Raiden?? He still has a loss against MGRR Raiden on his profile...
 
The Freemakers and Jek-14 exist in canon.

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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
If it is then I'm either blind or someone wrote it in such a misleading way that you would never notice it.
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I was basing it on what Naruto Kyuubi had.

Saying that high-level shinobi do x and y, but it seems to only be at the Kage level?

And even then, wow, I think that's only in Naruto's profile. I checked other Kages and none of them have that in their profile.

Not even Orochimaru, who is used as an example in the justification (I didn't include it because of the poorly done references), has that in his profile.

Like, I think that's only in Naruto's profile.

Either it only applies to Naruto or it was a power added very poorly.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I was basing it on what Naruto Kyuubi had.

Saying that high-level shinobi do x and y, but it seems to only be at the Kage level?

And even then, wow, I think that's only in Naruto's profile. I checked other Kages and none of them have that in their profile.

Not even Orochimaru, who is used as an example in the justification (I didn't include it because of the poorly done references), has that in his profile.

Like, I think that's only in Naruto's profile.

Either it only applies to Naruto or it was a power added very poorly.
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It's on Zabuza and Kakashi's profiles too since they're the bare minimum required for this feat since they did it first in the series.
 
Another funny thing is that in part 1, Sakura has resistance to it.
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On one hand you think, okay, elite ninjas can withstand this, right?

Then you check the profiles and she's basically one of the only ones who has this in her profile under the resistance section.

Not even Obito from the Fourth Shinobi World War has this, lol.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
It's on Zabuza and Kakashi's profiles too since they're the bare minimum required for this feat since they did it first in the series.
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But then, they are different things. Theirs is citing their own feat (which isn't scaled to the rest).

What I'm citing is the general justification of the elite ninjas that's in Naruto Kybi's profile.

Which, basically, despite being a general justification, isn't found in almost any other profile.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Another funny thing is that in part 1, Sakura has resistance to it.

On one hand you think, okay, elite ninjas can withstand this, right?

Then you check the profiles and she's basically one of the only ones who has this in her profile under the resistance section.

Not even Obito from the Fourth Shinobi World War has this, lol.
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I'm very aware. It's just the Naruto people being super, super, super ******* slow on fixing even minor parts of profiles.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I'm very aware. It's just the Naruto people being super, super, super ******* slow on fixing even minor parts of profiles.
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Why don't they create a P&A page for general/universal powers?

There are many general things that shinobi possess, whether it's techniques that every genin learns, or equipment that everyone has, etc.

This makes editing profiles easier and prevents them from becoming so inconsistent.

Like, wow.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Why don't they create a P&A page for general/universal powers?

There are many general things that shinobi possess, whether it's techniques that every genin learns, or equipment that everyone has, etc.

This makes editing profiles easier and prevents them from becoming so inconsistent.

Like, wow.
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This was suggested at one point but I don't know why it never went through when it would not only save everyone a huge headache it would also save space on the profiles themselves.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Vader has force choke as like a second move and Sidious requires good heat resistance to deal with at all, and also uses things like force choke a lot.

Not really.
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And what about the Chainsaw Man characters? They have enough LS that they won't be crushed quickly.
 
I wanna add this to the Magnaguard profile because it was so much fun to use but its Legends and the profile seems like it only uses Disney Canon stuff.

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Bulldog RLR

The Bulldog Rocket Launching Rifle (RLR) was a handheld weapon used by CIS forces during the Clone Wars. This weapon fired powerful antipersonnel rocket propelled grenades. With a chassis akin to the E-5 blaster rifle used notably by the Trade Federation's B1-series battle droids, the RLR was...
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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I wanna add this to the Magnaguard profile because it was so much fun to use but its Legends and the profile seems like it only uses Disney Canon stuff.

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Bulldog RLR

The Bulldog Rocket Launching Rifle (RLR) was a handheld weapon used by CIS forces during the Clone Wars. This weapon fired powerful antipersonnel rocket propelled grenades. With a chassis akin to the E-5 blaster rifle used notably by the Trade Federation's B1-series battle droids, the RLR was...
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Magnaguards have other equipment, but you'd have to do a thorough search gathering scans.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
Magnaguards have other equipment, but you'd have to do a thorough search gathering scans.
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I almost got a seizure from the page rocketing towards the bottom of itself from the way you linked it. 😭

Also that's way too many scans to gather, the Star Wars Wiki already lists their full equipment with links to each one. Besides, we have Grievous' Blaster and starfighter on his page just linking to said wiki.
 
I don't know if its a useful feat for anything but I was watching some dude doing a challenge run on the Force Unleashed and an AT-ST causes an utterly insane amount of rubble with a few shots after firing into a cliffside.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
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“What happened?” Raymus asked as he entered the cockpit.

“Motivator finally gave out,” the ship’s pilot reported. The instrument panel before him and his copilot was ablaze with blinking warning lights. “We’re at sublight for the rest of the way.”

“Where are we?”

The copilot worked the nav console, punched up a local sensor image. “We’re close, about a quarter parsec out.”

Raymus stepped forward, directly behind the two helmsmates so that he might see better through the cockpit viewport. And there it was. Barely discernible to an untrained eye, but Raymus knew what he was looking for. From this far out, Tatooine was little more than a speck, just a tiny, pale-orange dot adjacent to two far larger, brilliant lights, the planet’s binary suns.

“How long at best speed?” They were so close, yet still so far. If the hyperdrive had held out for just a few moments longer, they would already be in the planet’s orbit. But now, forced to hobble the rest of the way at sublight…

“Eight minutes,” the pilot responded. “I think we’ll make it.” There was hope in the man’s voice, a sense of relief—the first Raymus had heard from anyone since their narrow escape
from Scarif. And now he felt it, too. Eight minutes. If they could hold out just that much longer, he could get everybody to the surface and scuttle the ship; then at one of the planet’s infamously no-questions-asked spaceports he could procure another vessel, unmarked and untraceable, with which to spirit the princess to safety. For a brief moment he allowed hope back in; considered the possibility that maybe, just maybe, there was a way out of this. That the princess might still be safe after all, that the stolen data might still find its way back to rebel command, that he and his loved ones might still—

The impact rocked the ship so hard it slammed Raymus against the cockpit bulkhead. Like a passing breeze, his reverie vanished as quickly as it had come, and a shrill cockpit alarm sounded.

“Star Destroyer!” the pilot exclaimed in response to the new sensor reading that had just appeared directly behind them. “They’re firing on us!”

“Man the turbolasers and return fire,” Raymus ordered. “Put everything we’ve got into the aft deflector shield, and get us to that planet!”

(Source) From a Certain Point of View (Raymus)
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They were in a Tantive IV, which has a maximum speed of 80 mglt.
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I'm not very good at math, but isn't that much faster than the speed of light?

Did they just throw in random numbers without checking, or did I see something wrong?

Because I think the entire MGLT measurement is based on being slower than light.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I just tagged one of your random posts to talk about something else.

Do these scans help with anything?
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I don't think it makes a big difference to the calculation in that case. Unless there are any other feats involving Star Destroyers. I'll save the scans for later though. I found more feats recently that might be Class K/Class M as well.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
They were in a Tantive IV, which has a maximum speed of 80 mglt.
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I'm not very good at math, but isn't that much faster than the speed of light?

Did they just throw in random numbers without checking, or did I see something wrong?

Because I think the entire MGLT measurement is based on being slower than light.
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I might end up making a Calc group thread over the value of a MGLT and if it can be used in calcs. This might be an outlier but I will include it in the OP.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
I might end up making a Calc group thread over the value of a MGLT and if it can be used in calcs. This might be an outlier but I will include it in the OP.
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I don't know, because that's obviously contradictory.

Since MGLT is sub-light and using that segment obviously gives a speed well above the speed of light.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I don't know, because that's obviously contradictory.

Since MGLT is sub-light and using that segment obviously gives a speed well above the speed of light.
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Phsccarvalho said:
They were in a Tantive IV, which has a maximum speed of 80 mglt.
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I'm not very good at math, but isn't that much faster than the speed of light?

Did they just throw in random numbers without checking, or did I see something wrong?

Because I think the entire MGLT measurement is based on being slower than light.
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I think I mentioned this before, but this is possible without needing to go FTL. Looking over details about Star Wars sublight travel, which mentions relativisitic effects, this can be done by moving very-very close to the speed of light. 0.25 Parsec ~ 0.8153677 ly, so traveling that far in 8 minutes would require you travel at 53607.877620457 c, but that is if you consider them to be moving at a standard frame of time.

However, using sublight relativity you could travel 0.25 Parsec in 8 minutes if you flew between [0.99999999982251 c/299792457.94679] and [0.99999999984196 c/299792457.95262 m/s]. The first option would allow them to travel 0.2475 Parsec in 8 minutes, and the latter allows for traveling ~~ 0.26 Parsec in 8 minutes. I would need to do more math if you wanted 0.25 exactly but they use the term about in your quote anyways. This has its own issues of course, but its still possible.
 
Legion350 said:
However, using sublight relativity you could travel 0.25 Parsec in 8 minutes if you flew between [0.99999999982251 c/299792457.94679] and [0.99999999984196 c/299792457.95262 m/s]. The first option would allow them to travel 0.2475 Parsec in 8 minutes, and the latter allows for traveling ~~ 0.26 Parsec in 8 minutes. I would need to do more math if you wanted 0.25 exactly but they use the term about in your quote anyways. This has its own issues of course, but its still possible.
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The fandom wiki mentions this, suggesting that time dilation is probably happening (although the text doesn't explicitly state it).

So I think it can only be two things: either the dilation is interfering with the timing, or the speed of light in Star Wars is greater than in real life, which I find unlikely.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
The fandom wiki mentions this, suggesting that time dilation is probably happening (although the text doesn't explicitly state it).

So I think it can only be two things: either the dilation is interfering with the timing, or the speed of light in Star Wars is greater than in real life, which I find unlikely.
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I'm leaning towards time dilation with Occam's razor. While they don't explicitly mention time dilation, there are mentions of relativistic effects from sublight engines which is in line with this. Also, with a lot of time dilation and the speeds I gave, it 8 min would pass for the crew, without actually making them FTL, and it explains why Hyperdrives are seen as better than sublight engines. The speed of light in Star Wars being higher isn't supported as far as I can tell.
 
Legion350 said:
I think I mentioned this before, but this is possible without needing to go FTL. Looking over details about Star Wars sublight travel, which mentions relativisitic effects, this can be done by moving very-very close to the speed of light. 0.25 Parsec ~ 0.8153677 ly, so traveling that far in 8 minutes would require you travel at 53607.877620457 c, but that is if you consider them to be moving at a standard frame of time.

However, using sublight relativity you could travel 0.25 Parsec in 8 minutes if you flew between [0.99999999982251 c/299792457.94679] and [0.99999999984196 c/299792457.95262 m/s]. The first option would allow them to travel 0.2475 Parsec in 8 minutes, and the latter allows for traveling ~~ 0.26 Parsec in 8 minutes. I would need to do more math if you wanted 0.25 exactly but they use the term about in your quote anyways. This has its own issues of course, but its still possible.
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I also found this somewhere, is it correct?
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