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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Justkeepwading said:
Wouldn't that just mean he was able to dodge this spear just a moment before it hit him, if he actually moved during the time that would just mean he pre dodged it
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Like I said to Gunshy, he would logically see it from a distance since like a comet it would be very obvious due to being on fire and we would need to prove otherwise for him to get good scaling.
 
You can't really pre-dodge it since it's a homing spear. If he tried dodging it by minimal distance the spear would adjust itself (Specially considering even a milimiter of adjustement would cause it to hit a different country if it came from space.)
 
Why are we only focusing on the first dodge considering he dodged reacted to and dodge it 2 more times at relatively close range unless we deadass gonna use acceleration as an excuse
 
The real thing that could eff scaling imo is if we assume it would take multiple seconds to reach full speed, wich means Denjita dodging it after the initial hit could potentially be less impressive.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Like I said to Gunshy, he would logically see it from a distance since like a comet it would be very obvious due to being on fire and we would need to prove otherwise for him to get good scaling.
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The spear was still homing in on him, so even if he saw it, unless Ur insinuating that he moved like an inch out of the way he thought the spear was gonna land, the spear would have adjusted due to homing, so doesn't he still dodge it normally, I don't understand
 
Epiccheev said:
You can't really pre-dodge it since it's a homing spear. If he tried dodging it by minimal distance the spear would adjust itself (Specially considering even a milimiter of adjustement would cause it to hit a different country if it came from space.)
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Well the spear doesn’t change direction mid flight. Each time it homes on Denji it flies past him first before correcting and trying again.
 
Epiccheev said:
The real thing that could eff scaling imo is if we assume it would take multiple seconds to reach full speed, wich means Denjita dodging it after the initial hit could potentially be less impressive.
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Ive never seen any verse use IRL logic like acceleration to gut a projectile dodge feat before of course unless the verse itself stated that the projectile itself gets faster overtime
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Well the spear doesn’t change direction mid flight. Each time it homes on Denji it flies past him first before correcting and trying again.
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It flies past him because he narrowly dodges it every time so then it corrects itself , what Ur insinuating is that he had enough distance between him and the spear so he just predodged but if he had enough distance then the spear would've just adjusted compared to the other times where it didn't really have distance and he narrowly dodged
 
Hmmm… could we consider it possibly destroyed clouds on the way down, idk man I’m grasping at straws
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Well the spear doesn’t change direction mid flight. Each time it homes on Denji it flies past him first before correcting and trying again.
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They are jumping around buildings and moving at hypersonic speeds mid fight, if we assume the spear just locks in where he was at that point and will keep going until it hits something then it would not have landed on him in the first place without adjusting it's route. ( Otherwise he would have to keep still for 05 seconds while fighting Yoru for the first hit to land)
 
Zabazab said:
It took a while to check the 4 new pages of discussion bc I was caught up with the significantly-crazier new chapter of Make the Exorcist Fall in Love.

But yea, Denji having a bunch of Death's pawns he can use at will is pretty cool.
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Denji having effigies of important concepts as optional equipment is kinda hilarious when you think about it. Finally they found a way to make that concept erasure ability fully combat applicable..
 
Epiccheev said:
They are jumping around buildings and moving at hypersonic speeds mid fight, if we assume the spear just locks in where he was at that point and will keep going until it hits something then it would not have landed on him in the first place without adjusting it's route. ( Otherwise he would have to keep still for 05 seconds while fighting Yoru for the first hit to land)
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Denji was standing still the first time it came though. He and Yoru weren’t exchanging blows, Denji was eating and rage baiting.



Justkeepwading said:
It flies past him because he narrowly dodges it every time so then it corrects itself , what Ur insinuating is that he had enough distance between him and the spear so he just predodged but if he had enough distance then the spear would've just adjusted compared to the other times where it didn't really have distance and he narrowly dodged
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Can the spear even make sharp turns? We see it take these wide turns to get to him.
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
You’re right but it took much wider turns before. Is the spear stupid?
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Well regardless my opinion is that even if Denji saw it coming at him , we see him burst out of the dust cloud the spear caused which would mean he didn't move before the spear reached at least a good distance near him which means he was fast enough to dodge it, and if u think he moved like an inch out of the way before it got there the spear was homing so, I just don't see how it isn't applicable to Denji here
 
Insert_creative_name_here_12 said:
Denji was standing still the first time it came though. He and Yoru weren’t exchanging blows, Denji was eating and rage baiting.
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Now that you mention it i agree on him being still at that point, but considering you can see a little fwsh indicating he jumped out of the building after the spear already had hit it along with Denji saying he "almost got speared" still means it was a very narrow/last second dodge based on instinct as opposed to him already having stepped out of the way after seeing it coming. Imo he'd still have to be somewhat close to it's top speed. (specially if we use average speed to calc it's movements)
 
Epiccheev said:
Now that you mention it i agree on him being still at that point, but considering you can see a little fwsh indicating he jumped out of the building after the spear already had hit it along with Denji saying he "almost got speared" still means it was a very narrow/last second dodge based on instinct as opposed to him already having stepped out of the way after seeing it coming. Imo he'd still have to be somewhat close to it's top speed. (specially if we use average speed to calc it's movements)
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Well my interpretation is that he saw it from a distance but it was so much faster that he couldn’t cover much ground. That’s why I’m dubious on him fully scaling. It’s like characters dodging cloud to ground lightning.
 
Ped2018 said:
The thing is that we see the spear accelerating, so we know it needs time before it reaches that speed
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Not really, we see 2 panels of it in space/near the moon then immediately the next 3 panels it's already catching fire in Earths atmosphere, if anything the initial launch is faster and gradually grows slower the longer it travels since: MOON->2 panels->ATMOSPHERE->3 panels->GROUND. Unless im being horrendously stupid
 
How fast is going from the Moon to the edge of Earth's Atmosphere in 2 panels is (assuming 1 panels is 2s, if not then just use 5s) ?
 
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