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6-C Tournament ~ Revival: "Welcome Back to the Stage of History" (Science Fantasy Fiesta)

WELCOME BACK, FELLOW PARTICIPANTS, TO THE NEW TOURNAMENT OF FATE
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No fancy narration or anything yet, but what I want to say is that it's been a while since my latest tourneys, some of them were scrapped to abandoned, but they were a fun rides personally
And it make me missed those times so I presented you this tourney once again, beside the fact that I'm having a difficult time for my Priscilla matches ATM so I need a distraction for now

Of course tho, I need a supervisors so if anyone here who participated obligated to do so then just tell me here, otherwise we'll start the rumble!


THEME
This time, the themes of this tourney will be a different, it will be all about a fighters that are fantasy and sci-fi themed!
Not entirely very strict, those participants from the genres I mentioned can be participated here, monsters are allowed


RULES
  1. Maximum Participants that can enter: 32 characters, however two spot are taken by mine so that leave 30 characters left
  2. Mid to High-Mid Hax Tournament, anyone who is higher than that (non-smurf or smurf) or having too broken hax (Existence Erasure, Type 8 and 9 immortality (depend, if it wasn't strong or not combat applicable then it'll be allowed), high-mid and above regen, conceptual manipulation, etc) aren't allowed, but if said haxes aren't particularly very potent and still be able to be countered then they are allowed
  3. Speed are equalized
  4. Random encounter, no prior knowledge and whatsoever
  5. AP Limit: From above 5+ ~ 10 GT to 65 GT
  6. Win via Anything!! (K.O, Incap, or Kill)
  7. One users can submit two characters, each one of them must be from different verses
  8. Follow up from no. 7, Two characters per one verses
  9. The Arena would be: Every locations in the Earth
  10. No Tier Jump, period
  11. Starting Range: 50 to 100 meters
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PARTICIPANTS/COMBATANTS
  1. "Shatter of a Visions" Amiya [Downscale from 13.69 Gigatons] (myself a.k.a @Kisaragi_Megumi)​
  2. TBA​
  3. Perfect Jiiban [6.6 Gigatons] (@Minaaaa)​
  4. GMK Godzilla [59.70 Gigatons] (@Oiguana2701)​
  5. Chakax [23 Gigatons] (@Naito-desu)​
  6. Jumping Kaise-I mean The Spirit of Grungi (This is Daemonslayer Gotrek and Felix crew being used here) [23 Gigatons] (@DaReaperMan)​
  7. Mega Gardevoir [15.905 Gigatons] (@koopa3144)​
  8. Kamen Rider Glare (Command Twin Buckle and Fever Boost time are restricted) [Varies] (@Shadowslash125 )​
  9. Mega Beedrill [15.905 Gigatons] (@Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh )​
  10. Vergo [37.67 Gigatons] (@Kachon123 )​
  11. X Johnny Test [36.40 Gigatons] (@RandomGuy2345 )​
  12. Series 2 Jiang Zhiya (combined interactions of the Five-Directional Flags is restricted) [10.8 Gigatons] (@Greatsage13th )​
  13. Mountain God [58.77 Gigatons] (@MysticBrawler )​
  14. Stitch [31.494 Gigatons] (@MannyQ361 )​
  15. Emperor Titan [47.96 Gigatons] (@DaReaperMan )​
  16. Super Fizziroy Body Sechs [8.45 Gigatons] (@Arkenis )​
  17. Bora Ra (Gargantuan Black Hole is restricted) [47.41 Gigatons] (@Greatsage13th )​
  18. TBA​
  19. Pre-Awakening (Weakened 2012) Thor [53.5 Gigatons] (@RoTt35 )​
  20. Abyss Razor [12.98 Gigatons] (@AnAverageUsername )​


BRACKET

Round 1
  • Kamen Rider Kuuga Ultimate Form vs Arc 1-3 Emilia, winner: Both are disqualified, a remake for this match with a new combatants will coming soon
  • MCU Thor (Pre-Awakening (Weakened 2012) vs Emperor Titan, winner:
  • Mega Gardevoir vs Spirit of Grungi, winner: Spirit of Grungi via stomp, proceed to the next round
  • Movie 1 Sonic the Hedgehog vs Vergo, winner:​
  • Kamen Rider Glare vs Super Fizziroy Body Sechs, winner:​
  • Lay Grandsley vs Chrome Dokuro, winner:​
  • Stitch vs Rai Batenkaitos, winner:​
  • Perfect Jiiban vs "Shatter the Vision" Amiya, winner:​
  • Series 2 Jiang Zhiya vs X791 Grand Magic Game Natsu Dragneel, winner:​
  • Abyss Razor vs X791 Midnight (Macbeth), winner:​
  • Pre-Retcon Fox's Magneto vs Mega Beedrill, winner:​
  • Pre-Omega 1 Nanite Rez Salazar vs Johnny Test X, winner:​
  • Movies Doctor Eggman in Eggpod vs Chakax, winner:​
  • Post-Training Tasha Godspell vs Bora Ra, winner:​
  • Mountain God vs GMK Godzilla, winner:​
  • Pre-Training Jeongsu Park vs Summoner War Satoru Gojo, winner:​
 
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Not really, Smoker has Haki, and Haki has emission... and thus disables the ability to smack him without layered NPI.
One outcome has many roads to the same outcome. Either have layered NPI or simply have something that does not necessarily require NPI to bypass his intangibility: threefold powernull, absolute zero, or the likes.
 
Smoker has never shown to emmit his Haki, iirc
But since his logia fruit is causing problems, can't we use Law in his first key, then? Should also scale to the same value as Vergo since he smacked his ass
 
Smoker has never shown to emmit his Haki, iirc
But since his logia fruit is causing problems, can't we use Law in his first key, then? Should also scale to the same value as Vergo since he smacked his ass
Just how many people lack the means to counter a logia in this tourney?
 
Okay, since @Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh didn't responded for a days, I'll take the action of just excluded Hammerface now
How come its only one if I also suggested Sechs?
Oh ****, missed this one back then lmao
Smoker has never shown to emmit his Haki, iirc
But since his logia fruit is causing problems, can't we use Law in his first key, then? Should also scale to the same value as Vergo since he smacked his ass
Hmmm...

Okay for the last combatants, what we should choose? Law or Sech?
 
Who is the Sech in question?
 
Uh this guy has Passive Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Probability Manipulation via the Karmatronics Dynamics. Isn't this a little too much?
 
Hmm...it does not seem to be a sure fire win though. What are its capabilities?
I'm not really knowledgable in the Battle Angel Alita verse so I'm only going off iwhat's said in it's profile. With that said this is what it says;
(Karmatron Dynamics<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> work on the micro level has reached perfection already yet on the macro level it is far from complete. It is the very science of human destiny, everything within the universe emits karmatrons through its very existence, and this is how all things are interconnected. Individuals<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> like Trinidad's, Sech's, Zekka's, but especially Alita's<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>, through their actions, decisions, will, and power can bring about a dynamic exchange of karmatrons on a massive scale. We can see their immense influence illustrated by Melchizedek as massive vortices swirling all other individuals around them, creating a karmic vortex. There are those, specifically Alita, who is considered a karmic singularity<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>, demonstrating the ability to come back from the dead through special means and ending up with exceptional upgrades to herself. A couple other examples of this stem from very lucky things happening around Alita and others; Figure Four was seemingly showered by bullets but we find out, that the bullets somehow missed him<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> greatly. There's also when Alita and Figure Four are walking in the desert and somehow it begins raining fish<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>)

The highlighted part is what has me concerned.
 
For Sechs literally nothing.
Question: Is the reason why it did nothing for him because it doesn't work for him, or because he was up against other characters that also had this ability which resulted in them cancelling each other out? Cause if it's the latter then it would be pretty bad since most of the contestants here don't seem to have a way to counter this ability.
 
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Question: Is the reason why it did nothing for him because it doesn't work for him, or because he was up against other characters that also had this ability which resulted in them cancelling each other out?
They don't cancel one another out from what I remember, they instead create an even bigger tornado. So everything that's happened in the tournament was mostly because numerous people with such massive vortexes came together. And then the only reason all this even happened is primarily due to Alita's karmatrons.

Uh yeah, need to evaluate Sech more in depth before we go either accepting or rejecting him
He can get tired man, I don't think this karmic stuff is gonna matter
 
They don't cancel one another out from what I remember, they instead create an even bigger tornado. So everything that's happened in the tournament was mostly because numerous people with such massive vortexes came together. And then the only reason all this even happened is primarily due to Alita's karmatrons.
Ok, then that would mean that the reason why it didn't do anything for him is in fact because he was up against other characters who also had Karmatron Dynamics. So what's stopping him from being unhittable here? Among the participants the only one's that would be capable of dealing with Sechs' Karmatronic Dynamics ability are Lay Grandsley and The Spirit of Grungi, while the rest don't have anything that could counter it..
He can get tired man, I don't think this karmic stuff is gonna matter
Sechs has Superhuman stamina so I don't see that being a doable win condition.
 
Ok, then that would mean that the reason why it didn't do anything for him is in fact because he was up against other characters who also had Karmatron Dynamics. So what's stopping him from being unhittable here? Among the participants the only one's that would be capable of dealing with Sechs' Karmatronic Dynamics ability are Lay Grandsley and The Spirit of Grungi, while the rest don't have anything that could counter it..
That isn't how its portrayed at all. Someone being more influential with their Karmatrons doesn't make them unhittable but I would love to see you prove that lmao

Sechs has Superhuman stamina so I don't see that being a doable win condition.
Yeah so does the entire tourney, he still gets tired reasonably fast.
 
Bro just uses a sword and fights cool, idk how this became about karmatrons being some OP hax lmao
 
Ok so wanna ask quickly.
How would the karmatronics work in a typical vsbw match, and how does Sechs utilise it?
Unless we assume the idea of fate and cause and effect don't exist in other verses or SBA, then Karmatrons' function in regular fights is the same as any character within cause and effect to any extent. That is to say, everyone universally already has karmatrons.

There is no "how does he use it", it's already within the real world, characters actions and thoughts have an effect on the real world in basically every verse. So he's not gonna activate it and one shot or blitz or escape certain death without his will being great enough. And he can get tired too. Like half of this tourney can one shot him and his karmatronic manipulation wouldn't help him at all.

The only one whose karmatronic manipulation would allow for such stuff is Alita and she still loss several times in the series.
 
That isn't how its portrayed at all. Someone being more influential with their Karmatrons doesn't make them unhittable but I would love to see you prove that lmao
I'm not really knowledgeable in the Battle Angel Alita verse so I'm only going off what's said in it's profile. With that said this is what it says;
(Karmatron Dynamics<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> work on the micro level has reached perfection already yet on the macro level it is far from complete. It is the very science of human destiny, everything within the universe emits karmatrons through its very existence, and this is how all things are interconnected. Individuals<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> like Trinidad's, Sech's, Zekka's, but especially Alita's<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>, through their actions, decisions, will, and power can bring about a dynamic exchange of karmatrons on a massive scale. We can see their immense influence illustrated by Melchizedek as massive vortices swirling all other individuals around them, creating a karmic vortex. There are those, specifically Alita, who is considered a karmic singularity<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>, demonstrating the ability to come back from the dead through special means and ending up with exceptional upgrades to herself. A couple other examples of this stem from very lucky things happening around Alita and others; Figure Four was seemingly showered by bullets but we find out, that the bullets somehow missed him<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a> greatly. There's also when Alita and Figure Four are walking in the desert and somehow it begins raining fish<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Karmatronic_Dynamics_(Battle_Angel_Alita)#cite_note-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>)

The highlighted part is what has me concerned.
I already said that I wasn't knowledgeable in the Battle Angle Alita verse which is why I asked for clarification. With that said, while I don't see why the feat of "a shower of bullets missing this person known as Figure Four" couldn't also apply to Sechs when he has the same ability, if your saying that Sechs really can't do anything like this then I don't have any issue with him being added in.
 
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I already said that I wasn't knowledgeable in the Battle Angle Alita verse which is why I asked for clarification. With that said, while I don't see why the feat of "a shower of bullets missing this person known as Figure Four" couldn't also happen for Sechs when he has the same ability,but if your saying that Sechs really can't do anything like this then I don't have any issue with him being added in.
For Four it's not something that always happens, it is solely due to his will/thoughts/actions that he survived it, and if you look again, you can see he was hit on his head, so its not necessarily the unhittable god fate hax sorta thing. I do recognize the page can be pretty intimidating so there's no issue with you bringing it up.
 
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