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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

Also there is a similar statement from Yoda to Mace in movies as well. Although I agree Yoda is least impacted by this. He still has his High 7-C as a backup at least lol. All jokes aside, I agree with keeping 7-B for some of the characters. And I should note Yoda is not a great person to backscale the verse from using Grevious. If you look at the quote where Filoni talks about he handled Ahsoka cautiously because of how powerful she has become, he also says explicitly he had to use Yoda a lot less during Clone Wars because he could basically beat everyone.
character X defeating character Y doesn't mean character Y can't downscale. It depends on how the fight went, the characters' mentality, or extra factors (like whether someone was holding back or fighting seriously).

Ashoka, for example, besides that statement, also says: "The only people who could truly match Ahsoka, blow for blow, were Vader or the Emperor," during the Rebels arc. This indicates that against other characters, she probably holds back to some extent.
 
@Hagane_no_Saiyajin
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I think it has been noted, as with the High Republic Adventures emergence with Yoda and the padawan, that not all emergences are the same, with the other calc it was known what the outcome of the emergence would result in making it easy to figure out the mass. but with this scan in question there's really not much context to tell how powerful this particular emergence is.
 
bro that was an L but was not an anti-feat
Grievous has a glaring weakness and a crazy good strategy that Jedi cannot exploit because they're too much worried being scared shitless by his presence
Another L for the prequel era Jedi

could never be my goats who fights beings who can straight up feed on the force, create massive illusions and inflict fear specifically into people.
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A compilation of previously posted stuff on Dagan Gera and Rayvis:

According to the Jedi Survivor artbook, Dagan Gera apparently achieved the rank of Jedi Master prior to his fall to the dark side (though other sources only describe him as a Knight), and also states that he was once "a paragon of the High Republic":
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According to the Tactical Guide, Dagan was weakened from 200 years of stasis during his initial fight with Cal, but fully recovered by the time of the second fight, with that entry describing him as bringing the full skill of "one of the Orders' finest warriors", which seems to put him above most High Republic Jedi. The illusion powers Dagan used "can manipulate even the strongest of minds".

Rayvis had no problem eliminating numerous High Republic-era Jedi (enough that he amassed a collection of lightsabers to give to his lieutenants by the time of Jedi Survivor), with it having apparently required the efforts of "many" Jedi to finally defeat and imprison him in the past. It seems that Dagan Gera and, much later, Cal Kestis were the only two Jedi to ever defeat him in single combat.
 
Well, if the High Republic era was the general peak of the Jedi, I guess that makes it even more impressive that Cal Kestis could put up a fight against Dagan Gera and defeat Rayvis.
yeah I mean even more so, cuz Dagan Gera is himself above the average HR Jedi knight (though there are some debates if he was nerfed by a lot or not) and people like Vader and Cere are above Cal so theres a lot of >
 
given the insane amount of times the HR jedi are stated to be the jedi at their peak , why should Grievous scale over your average HR Jedi when he has so many anti feats of losing to people not even top tier in his own era.
He can trade blows with Yoda and even receive force pushes from him, so at the very least he could suffer a downscaling despite being weaker.
 
@noninho what makes Ki-Adi Mundi worst than Luminara?
why are you asking me this? lol
anyway, every council member > Ki-Adi-couldn't-dodge-nor-reflect-some-blasters-when-this-is-padawan-stuff-Mundi

Perhaps that helmet that Yoda makes every padawan wear to learn how to dodge or reflect stuff just didn't fit in Mr. Attack On The Wookies ginourmous stupid head
 
"'Trazyn. Our ships are without atmosphere, unpressurised.' Orikan said. 'Do orks... breathe?'
A pause.
'They have lungs.'"

I read peak regularly. You clearly do not own an air fryer.
the Infinite and the divine is kinda a mid book tbf
 
aint this your eras Jedi Killer?

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I'm not even talking about Grievous here. Honestly, I think that the Yuuzhan Vong would have made for better antagonists than the Nihil because the High Republic doesn’t have a centralized military at this point, mostly just independent system defense forces for each planet. The Yuuzhan Vong would give the High Republic a rude awakening to get its crap together and actually unite to fight back against the Vong or face extermination.
 
I'm not even talking about Grievous here. Honestly, I think that the Yuuzhan Vong would have made for better antagonists than the Nihil because the High Republic doesn’t have a centralized military at this point, mostly just independent system defense forces for each planet. The Yuuzhan Vong would give the High Republic a rude awakening to get its crap together and actually unite to fight back against the Vong or face extermination.
the lack of a centralized military is exactly why the yuuzhan vong do not work for the High Republic era.

the HR is not a story about a complacent galaxy needing to be violently “woken up” by an extinction level invasion.
It is about a young, optimistic rrepublic learning, often painfully, that good intentions, decentralized power, and moral authority are not always enough. the conflicts are meant to test ideals, . dropping the vong into that setting skips the entire philosophical arc and jumps straight to an end of era crisis.
the Nihil in turn create conflicts that cannot be solved by brute force alone. they force characters and institutions to confront abstract problems like trust, coordination, authority, and moral compromise,the vong reduce most conflicts to survival math. unite or die. in turn the nihil are a distorted reflection of the republic itself, decentralized, idealistic in their own way, and empowered by freedom without responsibility. they emerge from within the same system the republic believes in.

more importantly, something like the vong wouldnnt really make sense for the time period the HR is set in. Its clearly meant to evoke Star Wars’ fantasy roots,the Knights of the round table, a mythic “golden age,” and an era of optimism and exploration. the vong are more like endgame bosses,they function almost entirely as an invasion story, designed for a setting where the galaxy is already exhausted and fractured.

honestly, the vong haven’t aged all that well either. A lot of their writing relies on trying to appear mature through excessive sadism, masochism, and shock value,which feels pretty dated now. on top of that, their religious symbiosis with the wider SW universe is kind of undercooked. later HR stuff especially Phase II, with factions like the Path of the Open Hand does a significantly better job exploring religious cults, belief systems, and their relationship with the force in a more thoughtful way.

The vong would fit better in either the old republic or long after the sequels.

Also i'm not sure if your up to date with the HR or not but the Nihil arn't really the main villains of the High Republic either
 
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