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Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear) vs Kai (Ninjago) [1-9-0] (GRACE)

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AigerTheKing said:
Idk if it matters but it may be a stomp
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Cosmology page says it usually don't affect humans
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Well to start off, Sol has a gigantic LS advantage

Lifting Strength: At least Class P (Can match Justice and far above Anji), higher with Dragon Install, even higher without his limiter
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On top of that he can regenerate from Kai burning him to ashes
  • Regeneration (Mid-High; his regeneration is superior to Raven's, and he can regenerate from being reduced to ash)
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Also, what's the AP gap between both?
 
Honestly, going off both profiles. I think I'm going with Sol here. He has better stats overall (Class P VS Class T), and I don't see how Kai is getting by this if Sol uses it

AigerTheKing said:
Also, what's the AP gap between both?
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Not sure on the difference in general, it looks about the same(?) but Dragon Install can amplify Sol's AP and LS by 3x (honestly it should affect speed too given he moves faster with it in XX, but idk if that was changed in later games, I need to get to those)

EDIT: Oh yeah the Dragon Install affects durability as well lol, almost forgot.
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Honestly, going off both profiles. I think I'm going with Sol here. He has better stats overall (Class P VS Class T), and I don't see how Kai is getting by this if Sol uses it

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Its not a in character move according to profile
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Not sure on the difference in general, it looks about the same(?) but Dragon Install can amplify Sol's AP and LS by 3x (honestly it should affect speed too given he moves faster with it in XX, but idk if that was changed in later games, I need to get to those)
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Kai scale to 17 Universes, while Sol seem to only scale to 1 so yeah rip matchup
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Its not a in character move according to profile

Kai scale to 17 Universes, while Sol seem to only scale to 1 so yeah rip matchup
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DAMN 17 Low 1-C Universes is crazy.

Would Sol's regen even be able to do anything about the AP Gap? (my guess he just runs out of stamina eventually lol)
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
DAMN 17 Low 1-C Universes is crazy.

Would Sol's regen even be able to do anything about the AP Gap? (my guess he just runs out of stamina eventually lol)
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Well he'll just eventually run out of stamina like you said, while not being able to deal physical damage to him
 
Actually wait. Sol has Magic (12 layers of it may I add) as Information Manipulation (probably Type 2), and going off the explanation page for Guilty Gear on Magic (which has fire listed, which Sol uses for a lot of his moves) I'm not sure how relevant it is, because the justification is nonexistent, but would that still not affect Kai at all?

If not, only way Sol wins from what I can tell is from using Absolute World (which if nothing else works, idk see why Sol wouldn't use it)

Going with Kai for just having more reliable wincons if it's not a stomp somehow (if it is just close the thread, plus GG profiles look outdated to me?)
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Actually wait. Sol has Magic (12 layers of it may I add) as Information Manipulation (probably Type 2), and going off the explanation page for Guilty Gear on Magic (which has fire listed, which Sol uses for a lot of his moves) I'm not sure how relevant it is, because the justification is nonexistent, but would that still not affect Kai at all?
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If it has Info Hax, it could affect him yeah
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Going with Kai for just having more reliable wincons if it's not a stomp somehow
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FoxySonicMaster108 said:
(if it is just close the thread, plus GG profiles look outdated to me?)
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Sol had a bunch of revisions a year ago so I thought it wasn't really outdated
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Cosmology page says it usually don't affect humans
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I was going to debunk that with the cradle incident, but in all honesty Sol badguy never canonically uses a information flare or absolute world, but they never let me add any of the soul and mind corrosion inducement from the ghost spawns in Overture.
 
Ikelaggan said:

I was going to debunk that with the cradle incident, but in all honesty Sol badguy never canonically uses a information flare or absolute world, but they never let me add any of the soul and mind corrosion inducement from the ghost spawns in Overture.
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It's real, it's just not on profile
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Honestly, going off both profiles. I think I'm going with Sol here. He has better stats overall (Class P VS Class T), and I don't see how Kai is getting by this if Sol uses it
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Guilty Gear Xtra: Giant Ship's KE

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The Class P lifting strength is super debunkable by like two pages in manga of anji mito getting launched back by a random chunk of gear flesh that fell off of geena that's nowhere close to the KE from the Gear spaceships entire mass scaling to the escape velocity of the earth and That random chunk is barely a 24th the size of geena.
 
Ikelaggan said:

I was going to debunk that with the cradle incident, but in all honesty Sol badguy never canonically uses a information flare or absolute world, but they never let me add any of the soul and mind corrosion inducement from the ghost spawns in Overture.
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So he could get burned to a crisp by Kai
 
Wait so is Kai around baseline Low 1-C then? I might reconsider my vote if that’s the case, cuz Sol has Mid-High as well and can amp his power three times with Dragon Install, keep that in mind.

EDIT: Yeah I think I’m changing my vote to Sol. Although it’d be high diff considering Kai’s elemental abilities and all that. I mostly based my vote on Kai’s AP being able to one shot Sol enough to the point his regeneration just would not work.
 
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FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Wait so is Kai around baseline Low 1-C then? I might reconsider my vote if that’s the case, cuz Sol has Mid-High as well and can amp his power three times with Dragon Install, keep that in mind.
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Yeah but I was told chainscaling could still heavily impact Tier 1 Matchups
 
FoxySonicMaster108 said:
Wait so is Kai around baseline Low 1-C then? I might reconsider my vote if that’s the case, cuz Sol has Mid-High as well and can amp his power three times with Dragon Install, keep that in mind.

EDIT: Yeah I think I’m changing my vote to Sol. Although it’d be high diff considering Kai’s elemental abilities and all that. I mostly based my vote on Kai’s AP being able to one shot Sol enough to the point his regeneration just would not work.
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This thread got accepted so it negates what I said about baseline

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Differences in Power in 2-A and Above

@Vietthai96 and @KLOL506 said the following in a recent thread: I still find it weird that a tier 1 guy destroying more Tier 1 structures than another would be on the same lvl as someone who does less, unless you're suggesting its just higher without quantifications Because tier 2 upward are...
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I wish I could argue more for Sol, but bro has no scans for some of his powers (damn shame because that Power Null could’ve been good 💔)

Anyways switching to Kai again FRA
 
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