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Mori wants to fight a pokemon for some reason - Mori Jin (The God of Highschool) vs Deoxys (Pokemon) - [0-0-0]

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On a serios note, how does Mori counter Pocket Reality hax?
Pokemon pocket reality hax is kinda mid...(most of them come from stuff like Trick room or gravity, which isn't the same as say...BFR)

There is ultra wormholes but I don't think Deoxys can do that
 
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Pokemon pocket reality hax is kinda mid...(most of them come from stuff like Trick room or gravity, which isn't the same as say...BFR)

There is ultra wormholes but I don't think Deoxys can do that
Can he resist Mori's fear hax? I heard from David they had like 5 layers or something
 
Most pokemon profiles are outdated, but even so, I hardly doubt deoxys is gonna win. You should have just used mewtwo
 
Can he resist Mori's fear hax? I heard from David they had like 5 layers or something
Fear hax for goh characters at this point is just "wow that guy gives me chills!"

Edit: Like maybe you can argue he makes deoxyz give up but he still kinda has to tell him to do so and considering the fact that this is mori...I doubt he would
 
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Most pokemon profiles are outdated, but even so, I hardly doubt deoxys is gonna win.
Who would win is up to ppl in this thread, but as far as possible arguments goes, Deoxys has like a 4.69x AP advantage and a pretty wide arsenal of abilities to draw from on top of mid-high regen

Not saying he wins but he has options
You should have just used mewtwo
Naw, mewtwo is relevant and actually uses it's mind hax more frequently so that would be boring
 
Okay but when the opponent has fear hax with layers it's not like the pokemon has anyway around that
Yeah but what the fear hax actually does also matters...

Mori's fear hax allows him to make people give up by telling them to...it's heavily out of character for mori to make enemies give up immediately because mori iirc is the type of person to enjoy fighting strong enemies...he's gonna see a space alien and be at least interested enough to fight it
 
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Yeah this is base Mori who at this point had pretty mediocre fear hax. If he could transform he'd have way more broken stuff but in base it's whatever.

Also you used the wrong tag. The main tag is "The God of High School" not just "God of High School". It's not a big deal but personally I only check the former which is why I missed this thread
 
Yeah this is base Mori who at this point had pretty mediocre fear hax. If he could transform he'd have way more broken stuff but in base it's whatever.

Also you used the wrong tag. The main tag is "The God of High School" not just "God of High School". It's not a big deal but personally I only check the former which is why I missed this thread
Why does the wiki have multiple tags for what looks like the same verse

Fixed
 
Okay so what does Deoxys actually do in character here? His P&A section is basically empty when it comes to actual explanations and scans so it's hard to tell
 
Okay so what does Deoxys actually do in character here? His P&A section is basically empty when it comes to actual explanations and scans so it's hard to tell
Not sure, i'm Dming supps from both sides

if you use the anime it looks to be projectiles and forcefields but i'm not knowledgeable enough on enough Pokemedia to comment on this so we'll probably have to wait for poke supporters
 
I'm feeling Deoxys. With the AP advantage on top of it being able to regenerate from most attacks Mori could dish out even if they were to genuine harm it (given Deoxys is 4x stronger, unlikely).

Given this, Deoxys has a lot of win cons like duplication to overwhelm (100 vs Deoxys' thousands) and all it's other long list of hax, I think eventually Deoxys will get the hit on and win the fight.

Likewise, something to consider is that Deoxys' core isn't some magical weakspot where it is just unfathomably weaker and will end Deoxys if it gets hit.

Ray hit that thing with a point blank Hyper Beam and it didn't even chip. Mori is not likely to damage it enough to cause Deoxys any problems.
 
I'm feeling Deoxys. With the AP advantage on top of it being able to regenerate from most attacks Mori could dish out even if they were to genuine harm it (given Deoxys is 4x stronger, unlikely).

Given this, Deoxys has a lot of win cons like duplication to overwhelm (100 vs Deoxys' thousands) and all it's other long list of hax, I think eventually Deoxys will get the hit on and win the fight.

Likewise, something to consider is that Deoxys' core isn't some magical weakspot where it is just unfathomably weaker and will end Deoxys if it gets hit.

Ray hit that thing with a point blank Hyper Beam and it didn't even chip. Mori is not likely to damage it enough to cause Deoxys any problems.
mori does have dura neg acupuncture I believe
 
I'm feeling Deoxys. With the AP advantage on top of it being able to regenerate from most attacks Mori could dish out even if they were to genuine harm it (given Deoxys is 4x stronger, unlikely).

Given this, Deoxys has a lot of win cons like duplication to overwhelm (100 vs Deoxys' thousands) and all it's other long list of hax, I think eventually Deoxys will get the hit on and win the fight.

Likewise, something to consider is that Deoxys' core isn't some magical weakspot where it is just unfathomably weaker and will end Deoxys if it gets hit.

Ray hit that thing with a point blank Hyper Beam and it didn't even chip. Mori is not likely to damage it enough to cause Deoxys any problems.
Btw should I count this as a vote?
 
i think the 4x AP gap disappears in like an instant from mori's reactive evolution
in the previous key he went from Low 7-B to 5-B
 
Pokemon pocket reality hax is kinda mid...(most of them come from stuff like Trick room or gravity, which isn't the same as say...BFR)

There is ultra wormholes but I don't think Deoxys can do that
Deoxys has its own dimension and can BFR people into it.

Most importantly, as seen above, Deoxys can mind control/possess people, and Mori is also unable to resist this.
 
Even if they do, Deoxys doesn't have pressure points/meridians as it doesn't have blood or organs to disrupt.
Even then it's body still has an actual structure and in that case pressure points would still be an option to break the core

Also regarding the AP gap I forgot but yeah mori in this key does have AD and can just use Jeahbongchim Acupuncture to buff himself and close the gap

Using this he'd temporarily be able to amp his AP by around 19x or so before reaching another tier, then at that point the gap becomes a non issue
 
Deoxys has its own dimension and can BFR people into it.
Forgot abt that, but how does it use it in a combat setting? Does he just use thought based shenigans to just TP them there or does he have to use portals?

Edit: After a quick search I found that it uses TK to drag people though portals to send the there

Mori has like a 31.5x LS difference and a horrendous skill gap backed with ANPR and some form of I.A; not only is dragging mori into a portal not going to work but he can potentially just use skill to navigate through them

Most importantly, as seen above, Deoxys can mind control/possess people, and Mori is also unable to resist this.

Similar to the above does deoxys actually lead with this in a combat setting?
 
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Even then it's body still has an actual structure and in that case pressure points would still be an option to break the core

Also regarding the AP gap I forgot but yeah mori in this key does have AD and can just use Jeahbongchim Acupuncture to buff himself and close the gap

Using this he'd temporarily be able to amp his AP by around 19x or so before reaching another tier, then at that point the gap becomes a non issue
We wouldn't assume a non-human, non-standard train would have standard aspects that only apply when certain biological signifiers are present. Deoxys doesn't have anything to signify it would have these structural weakness, so we can't just assume that it does when nothing indicates that in any way.

It's like arguing "My character has a bone-breaking technique that bypasses durability, so it'd work on Deoxys"
 
We wouldn't assume a non-human, non-standard train would have standard aspects that only apply when certain biological signifiers are present.
Pressure points are just weak points within the muscles, while yes deoxys may or may not have muscles the fact that it still has a body structure that mimics the functionality of muscles means its similar enough to the point where it just has its own
Deoxys doesn't have anything to signify it would have these structural weakness, so we can't just assume that it does when nothing indicates that in any way.
As long as deoxys has a body structure then yes it would have it would be prone to having structural flaws unless stated otherwise just due to being even remotely humanoid
It's like arguing "My character has a bone-breaking technique that bypasses durability, so it'd work on Deoxys"
Bones aren't really the same thing since deoxys is actually shown to not have bones

The only argument presented for deoxys not having weak points is the idea that it's basically made of energy but since it's body still resembles a human while having a structure unless the structure is just stated to be perfect we can't just assume it is.

thats why I'm asking if deoxys has actual statements that suggest it resists this
 
Pressure points are just weak points within the muscles, while yes deoxys may or may not have muscles the fact that it still has a body structure that mimics the functionality of muscles means its similar enough to the point where it just has its own
It isn't however. Deoxys doesn't have blood, nerves or any other biological structure. Chinese Pressure point attacks rely on attacking Meridians which exist across the human body which Deoxys also wouldn't have.

Likewise, even if for the sake of this one point we assumed that Deoxys for some reason does have pressure points, they would be in completely different places since Deoxys doesn't share any biological markers (No mouth, no organs, no blood, no veins, no muscles.) So even if we assume he does try to hit them, he'd be hitting in the wrong places which is more than enough time for Deoxys to do all sorts of things to him while he's so close (Defeating the speed advantage)

As long as deoxys has a body structure then yes it would have it would be prone to having structural flaws unless stated otherwise just due to being even remotely humanoid
However, we would not assume they are in the same places or work in the same way. Again, we are talking about a fully alien entity with no biological markers, so it's head canon to argue "They'd be there, Mori would find them and they somehow work exactly the same way as they do on Humans", meanwhile Deoxys is just supposedly standing there letting Mori do all these tests to find it's alleged pressure points?

Like a weak spot on a Robot is not the same as a weak spot on a human.

Bones aren't really the same thing since deoxys is actually shown to not have bones
And they don't have muscles either. We don't know how Deoxys even moves. It could be entirely telekinetic given it only relies on its core.

The only argument presented for deoxys not having weak points is the idea that it's basically made of energy but since it's body still resembles a human while having a structure unless the structure is just stated to be perfect we can't just assume it is.
Looking visually like a humanoid and having the same internal structure is MASSIVELY different. Looks like doesn't mean IS. Again, you're just overlooking that Deoxys has no biological markers, so it's shape is irrelevant. It's like arguing animated slime that takes the shape of a humanoid has a human structure and would work the same. It's completely illogical.

thats why I'm asking if deoxys has actual statements that suggest it resists this
Pressure point attacks as a martial arts move would come under Fighting Type attacks, which Deoxys inherently resists as a Psychic type.

Likewise, in Leaf Green, Deoxys blocks attacks by altering it's cellular structure, so how would he hit a pressure point (even if we do grant you it, which I still don't) when Deoxys can move them by altering it's cellular structure?

When it changes form, an aurora appears. It absorbs attacks by altering its cellular structure.

We can also even argue that Deoxys using Iron Defence, which is superior to Defence Curl that blocks any potential weakspots too;

"The user curls up to conceal weak spots and raise its Defense stat."
 
It isn't however. Deoxys doesn't have blood, nerves or any other biological structure. Chinese Pressure point attacks rely on attacking Meridians which exist across the human body which Deoxys also wouldn't have.
Meridans act as invisible pathways that spread energy, if we're assuming deoxys is made of energy it would also need to have these pathways or at least something similar to actually create and/or manipulate it's own body
Likewise, even if for the sake of this one point we assumed that Deoxys for some reason does have pressure points, they would be in completely different places since Deoxys doesn't share any biological markers (No mouth, no organs, no blood, no veins, no muscles.) So even if we assume he does try to hit them, he'd be hitting in the wrong places which is more than enough time for Deoxys to do all sorts of things to him while he's so close (Defeating the speed advantage)
Mori can determine weaknesses from a glance so the second the fight starts he's already know where to hit

Also tbf the skill difference coupled with ANPR is gonna make it much for difficult for deoxys to hit mori than it would be for mori to hit him
However, we would not assume they are in the same places or work in the same way. Again, we are talking about a fully alien entity with no biological markers, so it's head canon to argue "They'd be there, Mori would find them and they somehow work exactly the same way as they do on Humans", meanwhile Deoxys is just supposedly standing there letting Mori do all these tests to find it's alleged pressure points?
Again as long as it's possible to assume it has something at least similar to that then yes it should work.

Based on the very premise of what meridians are coupled with what weekly said about deoxys being made of solidified energy that would suggest it have meridians or at least uses something similar

Also mori just needs to hit deoxys like once to do this and he scales to characters who have variants of this that can make characters who also aren't human straight up explode moments after contact
Like a weak spot on a Robot is not the same as a weak spot on a human.
Doesn't change anything since mori would tell at a glance
And they don't have muscles either. We don't know how Deoxys even moves. It could be entirely telekinetic given it only relies on its core.
Now I'm not a pokemon expert but telekinesis abilities are usually highlighted with effects?

Also deoxys if I recall currently has a cellular structure which is important since muscle tissue is formed from muscle cells being bundled together so if deoxys has cells even if we were to assume it has its own structure made up of whatever substance or material as long as those cells are being grouped together we would assume that structurally speaking it resembles a muscle and in that case it would have its own pressure points, wherever they may be
Looking visually like a humanoid and having the same internal structure is MASSIVELY different. Looks like doesn't mean IS.
It does when we're talking about LITERAL BODY STRUCTURE which is literally suppose to describe the form of the body
Again, you're just overlooking that Deoxys has no biological markers, so it's shape is irrelevant. It's like arguing animated slime that takes the shape of a humanoid has a human structure and would work the same. It's completely illogical.
It doesn't need to have human structure just something similar and as long as mori has the means to interact with it we have no reason to assume it wouldn't work
Pressure point attacks as a martial arts move would come under Fighting Type attacks, which Deoxys inherently resists as a Psychic type.
That's true however moves like force palm which iirc involves using similar logic to induce paralysis can still work on psychic types so unless I'm wrong on this then pressure points is still an option


Likewise, in Leaf Green, Deoxys blocks attacks by altering it's cellular structure, so how would he hit a pressure point (even if we do grant you it, which I still don't) when Deoxys can move them by altering it's cellular structure?
He sees deoxys new cellular structure and adapts via skill and potentially changes his fighting style of need be
We can also even argue that Deoxys using Iron Defence, which is superior to Defence Curl that blocks any potential weakspots too;
That's possible at least but as far as deoxys having pressure points to explode goes that stuff still stands so unless he leads with this then mori still has a chance to at least see the core and deduce it's weaknessess that way (assuming he doesn't just figure it out at a glance)

Also mori has AD and can also use Jeahbongchim Acupuncture to temporarily make him self like 19x stronger in AP if need be
"The user curls up to conceal weak spots and raise its Defense stat."
Again that's fine, read above
 
Meridans act as invisible pathways that spread energy, if we're assuming deoxys is made of energy it would also need to have these pathways or at least something similar to actually create and/or manipulate it's own body
Meridians are a biological function in Chinese medicine. It's the paths where life energy, qi (chi) flows through. They're not a magical leyline, they are a core part of Chinese medicine.

It's not just a "pathway that spread energy", that is an ignorant summary of what they are. Not all meridians are the same between species and some thing lack them entirely. For example, a Dead body has all its meridians severed.

So no, Deoxys doesn't have Meridians. Deoxys can't even be said to be recognisably alive in the biological sense as it doesn't consume energy, so we cannot assume it has human meridians.

Mori can determine weaknesses from a glance so the second the fight starts he's already know where to hit
For human fighters and martial artists, he has no concept or grasping for what Deoxys is. This is like saying "A seasoned Electrician can diagnose broken fuses at a glance, so they can fix a Flight ready Space rocket." or "A mechanic can read a car engine so they can read a shapeshifting alien nanobot swarm"

Likewise, Deoxys could not be categorised in anyway to be like the people Mori-Jin has fought. It has no breath, bones, muscles, blood, organs and can alter it's cellular structure at will. This is NOTHING like a human, so his understanding of human anatomy and ability to find weaknesses within it do not apply.

Also tbf the skill difference coupled with ANPR is gonna make it much for difficult for deoxys to hit mori than it would be for mori to hit him
This is a pivot. This only applies to evasiveness, not to whether or not the pressure point technique would work. Not even to mention Deoxys' non-standard fighting style.

Deoxys has a broad list of abilities that work from a distance, so Deoxys doesn't need to be in the same physical location as Mori while your only presented argument is based entirely on him getting up close.

Again as long as it's possible to assume it has something at least similar to that then yes it should work.
No. This is entirely backwards logic. You would have to prove that Deoxys would have these Pressure points for a pressure point attack to work. This is l like arguing "My character has a Mana burn attack that destroys anyone with Mana. So prove your character doesn't have mana right now."
Also mori just needs to hit deoxys like once to do this and he scales to characters who have variants of this that can make characters who also aren't human straight up explode moments after contact
1. Rocks don't have Meridians.
2. Those characters very clearly had Meridians to use a Death-touch attack against them and were very obviously just Human-variants, which Deoxys is not.

You might have an argument for any other pokemon, but Deoxys very clearly does not fall into the human-variant category like Mewtwo or Alakazham.

Doesn't change anything since mori would tell at a glance
Wrong as outlined above.
Also deoxys if I recall currently has a cellular structure which is important since muscle tissue is formed from muscle cells being bundled together so if deoxys has cells even if we were to assume it has its own structure made up of whatever substance or material as long as those cells are being grouped together we would assume that structurally speaking it resembles a muscle and in that case it would have its own pressure points, wherever they may be
What even is this argument?

Not all cells are muscles. Likewise, they aren't automatically meridians, nerves, pressure points or even human-like tissue structures. Slimes have cells.

The text flat out says it can manipulate it's cellular structure at will, meaning it has no stable anatomy, no consistent weak points and no fixed tissue organisation, which you would need to find pressure points.
Now I'm not a pokemon expert but telekinesis abilities are usually highlighted with effects?
1. That's a visual in the anime.
2. No. It does not always show it.

It does when we're talking about LITERAL BODY STRUCTURE which is literally suppose to describe the form of the body
Body shape and body structure are objectively, categorically different.

I gave you an example which you just chose to ignore;

A humanoid-shaped slime does not have organs, bones, muscles, tendons, nerves or meridians.

Human shape =/= Human.

That's true however moves like force palm which iirc involves using similar logic to induce paralysis can still work on psychic types so unless I'm wrong on this then pressure points is still an option
Force Palm literally creates electricity, it's Japanese name is "Force Discharge". It also never states it uses pressure points;

"The foe is attacked with a shock wave. It may also leave the target paralyzed."

He sees deoxys new cellular structure and adapts via skill and potentially changes his fighting style of need be
Mori can adapt in fighting style, but he's never adapted to an opponent who changes their entire anatomy mid-fight whenever they want. Likewise with no stable internal structure.

These are abilities he doesn't possess.


That's possible at least but as far as deoxys having pressure points to explode goes that stuff still stands so unless he leads with this then mori still has a chance to at least see the core and deduce it's weaknessess that way (assuming he doesn't just figure it out at a glance)
A point blank blast from Rayquaza didn't destroy or damage the core, so it's clearly not a weak spot or point for Deoxys. In fact, considering it's the only thing that survived the attack unharmed, it's their strongest point.

Likewise, the core is it's power source, not it's vulnerability.

Also mori has AD and can also use Jeahbongchim Acupuncture to temporarily make him self like 19x stronger in AP if need be
Where are you getting the 19x stronger from?
 
Okay so for acupuncture here's a fun fact. It works on beings like the angels and nephilim and other gods even tho they themselves don't possess standard human physiology and whatnot. It still depends on how Deoxys' physiology specifically works since even gods have blood and I assume some organs but just being non human isn't saving him.

But that aside for AP like Setto said, Mori is adapting to that basically instantly through AD. Hell he'd probably adapt a one shot tier above that since that's how it usually goes with AD in GoH. And if push comes to shove there's always Jeahbongchim which can multiply Mori's stats by up to 190,000x in this arc (or whatever the max value the sub 5-A rule allows here).

As for regen the combo of Yeoui shrinking and expanding can probably deal with that pretty well. Mori would quickly find out about the core and then just stab it with Yeoui to then expand it.
 
Meridians are a biological function in Chinese medicine. It's the paths where life energy, qi (chi) flows through. They're not a magical leyline, they are a core part of Chinese medicine.
Meridians are literally referred to by doctors as highways within the body, Chinese medicine doesn't just magically make meridians exists since it's already there
It's not just a "pathway that spread energy", that is an ignorant summary of what they are. Not all meridians are the same between species and some thing lack them entirely. For example, a Dead body has all its meridians severed.
Deoxys isn't dead...the most you can say is that maybe it has different meridians but that doesn't really matter since it's still there and mori would see it immediately
So no, Deoxys doesn't have Meridians. Deoxys can't even be said to be recognisably alive in the biological sense as it doesn't consume energy, so we cannot assume it has human meridians.
Deoxys is still sentient matter which alone categorizes it as alive
For human fighters and martial artists, he has no concept or grasping for what Deoxys is.
He's analyzed stuff that isn't even humanoid before, and is used to making new fighting styles on the fly to defeat enemies he'll grasp the already similar human structure immediately
This is like saying "A seasoned Electrician can diagnose broken fuses at a glance, so they can fix a Flight ready Space rocket." or "A mechanic can read a car engine so they can read a shapeshifting alien nanobot swarm"
Deoxys isn't different enough from a human structurally to suggest this is a good comparison he isn't a formless blob for example so you would still have to actually explain why deoxys is so much different from a human that it just wouldn't work beyond "He's an alien!"


Likewise, Deoxys could not be categorised in anyway to be like the people Mori-Jin has fought. It has no breath, bones, muscles, blood, organs and can alter it's cellular structure at will. This is NOTHING like a human, so his understanding of human anatomy and ability to find weaknesses within it do not apply.
The only thing he needs to do is to find weak points in the body that he can exploit; yeah he has no organs or blood but as long as his body still has a basoc structure that's good enough

Not only that but he's precise enough to analyze opponents through just bodily contact so there is also the possibility he just touches deoxys each time and figures it out
This is a pivot. This only applies to evasiveness, not to whether or not the pressure point technique would work. Not even to mention Deoxys' non-standard fighting style.
If iirc you said deoxys would hit him with a ton of stuff before then so I don't see how this is a pivot

Deoxys has a broad list of abilities that work from a distance, so Deoxys doesn't need to be in the same physical location as Mori while your only presented argument is based entirely on him getting up close.
That is true which is a part of what makes the fight interesting but mori can counter attacks after seeing them once he's dodging most of them
No. This is entirely backwards logic. You would have to prove that Deoxys would have these Pressure points for a pressure point attack to work. This is l like arguing "My character has a Mana burn attack that destroys anyone with Mana. So prove your character doesn't have mana right now."
I'm asking why it wouldn't

You said that deoxys isn't at all remotely similar to a human

I said deoxys is still humanoid and therefore has a basic structure for mori to follow

Your the one arguing for this structure being so much different than what mori has seen before that he just wouldn't be able to analyze it, you'd have to prov that since that's your claim
1. Rocks don't have Meridians.
Deoxys isn't a rock so mute point
2. Those characters very clearly had Meridians to use a Death-touch attack against them and were very obviously just Human-variants, which Deoxys is not.
Again why when he's literally humanoid?
You might have an argument for any other pokemon, but Deoxys very clearly does not fall into the human-variant category like Mewtwo or Alakazham.
Again he's still similar enough for mori to adapt
Wrong as outlined above.
Read above
What even is this argument?
Deoxys has cells

Muscles are just cells bundled up together

If deoxys cells are bundled together its body would be mimicking something similar to mucles

Conclusion: it works
Not all cells are muscles. Likewise, they aren't automatically meridians, nerves, pressure points or even human-like tissue structures. Slimes have cells.
Cells being muscles wasn't the argument it was the inverse actually that being the fact that muscles are just cells grouped together

Deoxys having muscles or anything similar to that automatically dismisses the idea acupuncture doesn't work because IRL muscles are confirmed to have these weak points

Also slimes are single celled so you would have to prove deoxys is single celled
The text flat out says it can manipulate it's cellular structure at will, meaning it has no stable anatomy, no consistent weak points and no fixed tissue organisation, which you would need to find pressure points.
Changing anatomy =/= not having one at all

If it is changing it's anatomy then that simply means it's gaining a new one so nothing changes
1. That's a visual in the anime.
2. No. It does not always show it.
In that case we really don't know but at the same time it could also just move normally and only use TK for stuff like flight so can I ask for proof on that?
Body shape and body structure are objectively, categorically different.
Body shape is a part of and literally plays a core role in body structure
I gave you an example which you just chose to ignore;
I'm saying the context of your example doesn't really make sense with the argument
A humanoid-shaped slime does not have organs, bones, muscles, tendons, nerves or meridians.
Yes but it still has human structure and is therefore still trying to initiate a human so parts of its body would still be trying to mimic that to a degree
Human shape =/= Human.
That's still a similarity which is good enough
Force Palm literally creates electricity, it's Japanese name is "Force Discharge". It also never states it uses pressure points;

"The foe is attacked with a shock wave. It may also leave the target paralyzed."
In that case that's my mistake then
Mori can adapt in fighting style, but he's never adapted to an opponent who changes their entire anatomy mid-fight whenever they want. Likewise with no stable internal structure. These are abilities he doesn't possess.
As long as he HAS a structure he's just adapt to the new one unless there's more context on how does body works beyond just being ever changing
A point blank blast from Rayquaza didn't destroy or damage the core, so it's clearly not a weak spot or point for Deoxys. In fact, considering it's the only thing that survived the attack unharmed, it's their strongest point.
1. Dura neg accupuncture if it hits the core would just delete it completely since unlike the main body it's anatomy is MUCH simpler so there shouldn't even be any room there
2.Mori can also just AD to a point he just overpowers it
Likewise, the core is it's power source, not it's vulnerability.
Again dura neg or AD
Where are you getting the 19x stronger from?
Basically mori can apperently use JA in lesser versions to amp himself rather than the complete 190000x boost

3.8 rotations is the baseline for 5-A mori can grow around 19x stronger before he reaches/surpassess that threshold so that's his limit
Okay so for acupuncture here's a fun fact. It works on beings like the angels and nephilim and other gods even tho they themselves don't possess standard human physiology and whatnot. It still depends on how Deoxys' physiology specifically works since even gods have blood and I assume some organs but just being non human isn't saving him.
The argument is that deoxys can change its structure at will while not having internal organs

That said I'm pretty sure mori should be fine as long as it has a basic structure which it does
But that aside for AP like Setto said, Mori is adapting to that basically instantly through AD. Hell he'd probably adapt a one shot tier above that since that's how it usually goes with AD in GoH. And if push comes to shove there's always Jeahbongchim which can multiply Mori's stats by up to 190,000x in this arc (or whatever the max value the sub 5-A rule allows here).
That's around 19x
 
But that aside for AP like Setto said, Mori is adapting to that basically instantly through AD. Hell he'd probably adapt a one shot tier above that since that's how it usually goes with AD in GoH. And if push comes to shove there's always Jeahbongchim which can multiply Mori's stats by up to 190,000x in this arc (or whatever the max value the sub 5-A rule allows here).
To be clear. If the argument becomes "This character can go out tier in all aspects" then either that ability has to be restricted (since it's going out of tier) or it's a stomp/spite and the thread should be closed.
 
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