Death (No, I'm Not a Human) profile restoration (TRASHED)

[Dark_Soul20189]

Acausality (Types 1 & 4) = Creates and predates time, lives in a cosmic realm separate from the human side.

Neither of these two things grants the thing you are claiming.

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Types 1 &; 3, All Aspects) = Death is nothing but also eternal, embodying a empty void.

This is even worse...
First of all, NEP 3 is off the table entirely, since this has nothing to do with what you are proposing.
Second, the first scan is an unreliable source, and the second one seems to be flowery language, depicting that you are dead, no longer thinking, and actively participating in life.
Thirdly, where do all these aspects come from? Information and concepts don't exist on a fundamental level. We have no proof they have a soul or body.

So yeah, it's entirely baseless for me.

Abstract Existence (Type 1) = Whole embodiment of Death.

No Proof

Conceptual Manipulation = Creation of time, cycle of rebirth and the afterlife.

This doesn't prove anything related to CM.

SO yeah... This needs to get nuked again.

 

[Hawktaro]

Neither of these two things grants the thing you are claiming.

What do you mean it doesn't? Predating/being above time grants Causality. I don't see why this becomes an exception here.

This is even worse...
First of all, NEP 3 is off the table entirely, since this has nothing to do with what you are proposing.
Second, the first scan is an unreliable source, and the second one seems to be flowery language, depicting that you are dead, no longer thinking, and actively participating in

Death is paradoxical, and that's what the game is focusing on in these lines. That flowery language is exactly what death is: nothingness.

No Proof

? The proof is the character, it is the personification of the concept.

This doesn't prove anything related to CM.

Except that it does, life and death are concepts alongside time. The cycle was trashed so ignore it.

SO yeah... This needs to get nuked again.

I actually give up. Now I think it's better if we have no profile at all for this character. My huge mistake was using an unconfirmed theory, not to mention the game's double meanings. I also noticed the usual partiality for some abilities.

This thread should be closed and i apologize yall for the waste of time.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

disagree on what darksouls said about abilities, also disagree on low 1c with the reasons everyone posted. Unkown is fine

 

[ReverseCross]

"Unknown, possibly Low 2-C" would be best then. being solo Unknown doesnt fit with the info we already have in the game

The fact that any character creates time does not, by itself, place them at a universe level+ especially if the statement or feat in question is vague, such as “creating time.” Therefore, it’s worth clarifying that the standards of this wiki work differently. To be placed in the universe level+, the following criterion must be met:

Low 2-C: Universe level+
Characters or objects whose power is uncountably infinitely greater than the prior tiers. That is, they can significantly affect, create, and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that surpass lesser objects by an uncountably infinite margin. An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any similar 4-dimensional structure.

 

[Antvasima]

Neither of these two things grants the thing you are claiming.

This is even worse...
First of all, NEP 3 is off the table entirely, since this has nothing to do with what you are proposing.
Second, the first scan is an unreliable source, and the second one seems to be flowery language, depicting that you are dead, no longer thinking, and actively participating in life.
Thirdly, where do all these aspects come from? Information and concepts don't exist on a fundamental level. We have no proof they have a soul or body.

So yeah, it's entirely baseless for me.

No Proof

This doesn't prove anything related to CM.

SO yeah... This needs to get nuked again.

So should this profile page have unknown statistics, and also not have the powers you disagreed with above, or not be allowed at all?

 

[Comiphorous]

So should this profile page have unknown statistics, and also not have the powers you disagreed with above, or not be allowed at all?

It'd have unknown statistics and essentially zero abilities, it's best to just not have a profile at all.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

So should this profile page have unknown statistics, and also not have the powers you disagreed with above, or not be allowed at all?

i think that unknown and possibly the tier wanted would be fitting for both parties but i'm also fine to nuke the profile

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

So should this profile page have unknown statistics, and also not have the powers you disagreed with above, or not be allowed at all?

The thing is, we have basically 0 knowledge about this character, and the things we do know either come from an unreliable source or are flowerly language, most of the time a mixture of both.

That means that the profile will be a bunch of "unknowns" all around for statistics, and have no clear abilities. At best, it would be a bunch of "possibly"...

So yeah, I think it's best not to have a page for it until we can get more stable information.

 

[Antvasima]

The thing is, we have basically 0 knowledge about this character, and the things we do know either come from an unreliable source or are flowerly language, most of the time a mixture of both.

That means that the profile will be a bunch of "unknowns" all around for statistics, and have no clear abilities. At best, it would be a bunch of "possibly"...

So yeah, I think it's best not to have a page for it until we can get more stable information.

Okay. That seems reasonable then.

 

[Hawktaro]

The fact that any character creates time does not, by itself, place them at a universe level+ especially if the statement or feat in question is vague, such as “creating time.” Therefore, it’s worth clarifying that the standards of this wiki work differently. To be placed in the universe level+, the following criterion must be met:

Low 2-C: Universe level+
Characters or objects whose power is uncountably infinitely greater than the prior tiers. That is, they can significantly affect, create, and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that surpass lesser objects by an uncountably infinite margin. An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any similar 4-dimensional structure.

Sorrrrrry for late reply, but the creation on a universal scale is tier 2, exactly what i said before. better close this thread as we will get nowhere with this

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so.

Thank you to everybody who helped out here.