Ahh Void Hunter Miyabi, I've expected someone with your reputation to be a little.... older (General Grievous vs Miyabi)

[Sooshirohl]

do you think I should just restrict the vital view since it's a possibly m

cuz if that's the reason for her win this would probably not get added due to Grievous having MHS+ on his profile but that's incorrect since there's not a MHS+ calc (the verse is kinda outdated in terms of ratings rn, it's getting fixed with the Class P, High 6-A and Rel stuff coming but it's probably gonna be long till that happens).
the closest is a MHS one with a value of Mach 2478.95

which is still far higher than the Vital View amp, which would probably break the rules since the Miyabi can blitz with someone with a higher speed in a equalized speed match

uhhhhh, restricting vital view would probably be more fair yeah

in that case i think it's a lot tougher to call. miyabi usually goes for either blitzing her opponent or just general CQC with her sword in character. the problem is, if she tries clashing with any of grievous' lightsabers at any point, both her and tailless are probably just getting chopped in half like butter. i think if miyabi manages to pick up on the fact that getting hit by any of the lightsabers would probably just kill her instantly, she'd probably work to either chop all of grievous' arms off or just spam ranged attacks.

grievous can basically one shot her, but if miyabi is aware of the danger and plays it smart, i think she can still come out on top. she still has a ridiculous LS advantage so she can hold grievous off if needed to prevent her from getting chopped into two, and if she manages to accumulate enough damage to pull a freeze off i think that's all she needs to basically clean up and finish the job in one fell swoop.

without VV i think i still might lean miyabi, though it'll definitely be a lot tougher for her and one wrong move is basically guaranteed death

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

she still has a ridiculous LS advantage so she can hold grievous off

looks at my recent Grievous crt which would give him Class M LS

ok I think I might have made this matchup too early

anyways if your going to vote straight up say it.

I'm dum af and unless someone says they're voting for or saying FRA I probably won't realized they voted

 

[Arkenis]

So I'm really to believe this Grevious has no enhanced senses? What's up with that?

And yeah how does Grevious land his attacks if she views his movements really slow? Is it a temp thing?

 

[Sooshirohl]

anyways if your going to vote straight up say it.

I'm dum af and unless someone says they're voting for or saying FRA I probably won't realized they voted

uhhh i wanna wait to see if peeps more knowledgeable on star wars have any counterargs, so i'll refrain from voting for now

 

[Sooshirohl]

And yeah how does Grevious land his attacks if she views his movements really slow? Is it a temp thing?

vital view is a temporary amp, yeah. it happens when characters in-game dodge attacks, and it basically just slows everything down to a halt to allow for dodging and/or counterattacks. it lasts about 2.75 seconds

this blog post goes more in depth about it if you're curious, though i think from the looks of it it'll probably get restricted. otherwise miyabi kinda just dodges grievous' first attack and just kills him in less than 3 seconds

 

[Naito-desu]

I brought this up as a technicality, but for the character themselves, it is perceived as 2.75 seconds in slowed time. So in real time, it'd only last about less than second. It's not so much as a permanent speed bost but moment of reaction that lets them counterattack with immensespeed.

 

[Naito-desu]

ok I think I might have made this matchup too early

Mf I was in the middle of writing a CRT to upgrade Miyabi (and Void Hunters) to Class M too

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Mf I was in the middle of writing a CRT to upgrade Miyabi (and Void Hunters) to Class M too

what's the value

 

[Naito-desu]

1313 tons is the accepted one, but I'm going for 37,742 tons with a new calculation

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

hm neat, Grievous is getting 45,321.3381 tons

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Mf I was in the middle of writing a CRT to upgrade Miyabi (and Void Hunters) to Class M too

Me realize I need the SW and ZZZ LS upgrade thread to be approved when it's up (I still have three CRT need to be approved by asking the staffs to come there):

 

[Stillwinston]

uhhhhh, restricting vital view would probably be more fair yeah

in that case i think it's a lot tougher to call. miyabi usually goes for either blitzing her opponent or just general CQC with her sword in character. the problem is, if she tries clashing with any of grievous' lightsabers at any point, both her and tailless are probably just getting chopped in half like butter. i think if miyabi manages to pick up on the fact that getting hit by any of the lightsabers would probably just kill her instantly, she'd probably work to either chop all of grievous' arms off or just spam ranged attacks.

grievous can basically one shot her, but if miyabi is aware of the danger and plays it smart, i think she can still come out on top. she still has a ridiculous LS advantage so she can hold grievous off if needed to prevent her from getting chopped into two, and if she manages to accumulate enough damage to pull a freeze off i think that's all she needs to basically clean up and finish the job in one fell swoop.

without VV i think i still might lean miyabi, though it'll definitely be a lot tougher for her and one wrong move is basically guaranteed death

If Grevious gets frozen that might not do much, he's got lightsabers that should thaw him out unless I'm missing smth. Also can I get some skill feats from Miyabi?

 

[Sooshirohl]

Also can I get some skill feats from Miyabi?

she's been stated by multiple different sources to be a prodigy when it comes to her swordsmanship. the title of void hunter is the highest honor you can receive in the world of ZZZ, and you basically get awarded the title after accomplishing a great feat, which, in miyabi's case, was destroying a city-sized ethereal in under three minutes. miyabi's dad straight up says that all of her accomplishments and feats come from her own natural skill and talent, and up until the climax of 1.4's story, she never really relied on her sword's power. following the climax of that story though, she has a far deeper connection and understanding with her sword, and she's able to draw more of it's power while also utilizing her own insane natural skill and talent

she was able to fight on even footing with yixuan, who's also a prodigy in her own right on top of being a martial arts master with (presumably) decades of experience. she's precise enough to do things like cut objects thrown behind her into pieces, slice straight through bullets and slice apart raindrops. she also trains daily, to the point of skipping out on work to train and her trainings can be so intense they cause her to basically black out and enter a daze. also a bit more debatable since there's more context to both of them but she has also been shown to be capable of keeping up with clones of herself

 

[Naito-desu]

Miyabi's best feat is probably singlehandedly clearing the Ethereal Lerna, which was an operation that took a multitude of soldiers and squads

 

[Stillwinston]

Hmmm that's indeed quite impressive, Grevious is also a very accomplished fighter in his own right considering he was personally trained in all 7 lightsaber forms by Dooku. Dooku is often regarded among the greatest swordsmen in all of the jedi's history and had decades of combat experience and knew of all the forms strengths and weaknesses. I know canon Grevious tends to get a bit of a bad rep but its literally stated that he'd killed countless jedi who by their nature held advantages that he didn't via the force. Adding to this Grevious also has no qualms about fighting dirty and using random bystanders to protect himself if need be.

Atm I'm currently leaning on Incon, possibly Grevious taking it high diff. One good blow from GG and its well GG for him but Miyabi is likely skilled enough to not instantly get killed and could possibly big brain it.

So I'm really to believe this Grevious has no enhanced senses? What's up with that?

And yeah how does Grevious land his attacks if she views his movements really slow? Is it a temp thing?

Its also odd he doesn't have resists to cosmic radiation when he litterally crawls outside his own ship in EP3 as well while its in outer space now that I think on it.

 

[Sooshirohl]

Atm I'm currently leaning on Incon, possibly Grevious taking it high diff. One good blow from GG and its well GG for him but Miyabi is likely skilled enough to not instantly get killed and could possibly big brain it.

hmmmmmmm

honestly, i miiiight agree? i do agree that miyabi is skilled enough to not instantly get killed, and i think she'd be able to just spam ranged slashes to keep her distance if necessary, but i feel like that's a lot more complicated than grievous just...landing a single attack once with any of his lightsabers. plus from what you said about him, he seems to be at least on par with, if not more skilled than miyabi herself, and him being willing to fight dirty i think means that he wouldn't be afraid to do something to catch miyabi off guard, and from there a single attack is all he needs to end the fight instantly. might have to think more on it but i feel like grievous is probably just easier to argue for considering all he really needs to do is catch miyabi off guard once

 

[Stillwinston]

That's fair, on a side note lets make a round 2 sometime with zzz vs sw but its a meme battle I'll warn ya the prequel films are a gold mine for that lol.

 

[Thunderman101]

greivous fra

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Do note that Miyabi attacks are all almost AoE so Grievous wouldn't have a hard time to dodge most of it

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Coughing robot needs his cough medicine FRA

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

and him being willing to fight dirty

He really does

usually when his opponent is focused on his two main arms which would likely be clashing in a light saber duel or being spun around getting closer to his opponent

he would sneakily stab them with a lightsaber or shoot them with his other pair of arms

 

[Sooshirohl]

He really does

usually when his opponent is focused on his two main arms which would likely be clashing in a light saber duel or being spun around getting closer to his opponent

he would sneakily stab them with a lightsaber or shoot them with his other pair of arms

yeah i think the combination of fighting dirty + grievous' own genuine skill would be enough for him to snag a win here, especially considering, again, he only really needs to land one good hit to basically end the fight instantly

sucks to have to vote against my girl, but i'll probably cast my vote for grievous FRA

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

so glad my favorite zzz characters don't have enough feats to give them a profile here

 

[Naito-desu]

so glad my favorite zzz characters don't have enough feats to give them a profile here

Making Wise and Belle rn putting em at 10-B

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Making Wise and Belle rn putting em at 10-B

good, put em against my other favorite pair of siblings

 

[Sooshirohl]

Making Wise and Belle rn putting em at 10-B

10-B wise and belle one shotting opponents stronger than them with the yunkui summit disintegration technique

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

10-B wise and belle one shotting opponents stronger than them with the yunkui summit disintegration technique

wtf is that
(haven't caught up with the game since I deleted it cuz it took too much storage on me phone)

 

[Naito-desu]

Does Ether Resonance even have combat applicability lol

 

[Sooshirohl]

Does Ether Resonance even have combat applicability lol

probably not, i don't think the techniques have ever been shown to be combat applicable. the idea of wise/belle just holding their hands up and instantly disintegrating the person in front of them is really funny though

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Grevious getting Miyabis sword for his collection fra

 

[Stillwinston]

Eh fair I'll change my vote back to Grevious here

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

might as well Vote for my child fra

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Its also odd he doesn't have resists to cosmic radiation when he litterally crawls outside his own ship in EP3 as well while its in outer space now that I think on it.

since I have a crt open for him rn I'll add that to it

 

[Pyro9278]

Grievous FRA

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

grace

 

[Doggo]

I'm a Philippines ****** and all I know is I'm definitely above average, since I've only seen like 1 or 3 people a year with a height similar or taller than mine

yoooo my people

 

[Doggo]

damn I was late here

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

I should add this now

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I should add this now

Oi hol up, vital view got restricted, wouldn't that make this match can't be added? As it's part of the abilities

 

[Pyro9278]

Oi hol up, vital view got restricted, wouldn't that make this match can't be added? As it's part of the abilities

Abilites that count as "Possible" may be restricted.