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Ordem Paranormal General Discussion

Only thing huggy has on him is size tbh, Xande outranges and outhaxes by a wide margin
Except we're restricting all 9B AP rituals, which gets him to defend AF
Meaning he will either outstamina Huggy or idk
But making ir fair
 
Not sure if the profiles are up to standard, but I'd like to see matches with the other characters
 
just watched Natal Macabro

I'm dedicated to (making Maomao's profile and) Star Wars for 2 more reworks and then imma work in Ordem with y'all, don't wanna see this verse being outdated no longer
 
just watched Natal Macabro

I'm dedicated to (making Maomao's profile and) Star Wars for 2 more reworks and then imma work in Ordem with y'all, don't wanna see this verse being outdated no longer
yeah, it just took 2 years for someone to look atmy calc but it's fine lol, then we make that CRT and we're golden
 
What CRTs do we need?
Well...
The profiles right now kind of suck, they lack scans and even proper definitions for abilities, so most of them need to be remade
Also, once my calc gets accepted there needs to be a CRT so that every character gets 9-B, 9-A, 8-C, or High 8-C
There's also the matter of resistances and layers, I have a blog of every effect that can be resisted by simply having a high number on a certain stat
 
Well...
The profiles right now kind of suck, they lack scans and even proper definitions for abilities, so most of them need to be remade
Also, once my calc gets accepted there needs to be a CRT so that every character gets 9-B, 9-A, 8-C, or High 8-C
There's also the matter of resistances and layers, I have a blog of every effect that can be resisted by simply having a high number on a certain stat
Whenever i can put exact stuff there, i can continue making profiles
the ones i made earlier are still valid or do i need to get other stuff done?
 
oh i forgor, i just got references for some profiles

Imma start properly making them
 
RN i gotta get Maomao done cuz i'm 75% done with her profile and then i'll be mixing creating profiles for Ordem and reading about Yoda to rework his profile

As i know jack shit about Iniciação, i ask: we'll be considering, for canon, Live Action>Comics or the other way around?
 
RN i gotta get Maomao done cuz i'm 75% done with her profile and then i'll be mixing creating profiles for Ordem and reading about Yoda to rework his profile

As i know jack shit about Iniciação, i ask: we'll be considering, for canon, Live Action>Comics or the other way around?
The comics are secondary canon, they can be used for feats and stuff but the rpgs are the main canon
 
More than a month later, antes tarde do que nunca

Anything else got approved or can I just make outdated profiles and apply changes when they get accepted? What do yall think?
 
More than a month later, antes tarde do que nunca

Anything else got approved or can I just make outdated profiles and apply changes when they get accepted? What do yall think?
Well, Mr Bambu answered my calc but asked me to clarify some things and when I did he didn't respond as of today, he didn't get the notification when I reminded him on his profile probably.

Anyway, it's probably fine to make outdated profiles Imo, as long as they're decently detailed
 
Well, Mr Bambu answered my calc but asked me to clarify some things and when I did he didn't respond as of today, he didn't get the notification when I reminded him on his profile probably.

Anyway, it's probably fine to make outdated profiles Imo, as long as they're decently detailed
Will start working on it today!
 
What are you planning on doing? 🤔
Profiles with the so-far accepted stats as base for the cast of each Season, starting by Iniciação

Yep, we hope they'll be outdated quite soon...but it's quite nice to already have them. Multi-season profiles will be getting updates from time to time until i have all of them complete, and i'll be posting the ones i already made here, for analysis
 
Well thankfully my calcs were finally accepted, but they won't be huge upgrades probably except for the higher tiers as the explosions that were previously at least building level are now wall to small building level, except for the tempestuous who is High 8-C. Either way, the calcs are now good to use
 
Well thankfully my calcs were finally accepted, but they won't be huge upgrades probably except for the higher tiers as the explosions that were previously at least building level are now wall to small building level, except for the tempestuous who is High 8-C. Either way, the calcs are now good to use
who scale to them? may i ask you to send them again ?
 
who scale to them? may i ask you to send them again ?
Here you go. It now scales wall level characters to 1.5 megajoules or 3.4 megajoules, the first is if they can handle an anarquic explosion (so pretty much everyone higher than level 1), second is if they can withstand a grenade (most creatures should scale to this since they're stronger than humans usually and have enough HP to at least handle a grenade). Then, the small building level scales to people who can withstand an anomiatic explosion (average damage 46), so decently strong agents and tankier creatures. The High 8-C end is for the very very top tier characters (Creatures equal to or stronger than Tempestuoso)
 
Also we should think about how we'll go about applying the whole resistances thing
Quite the good question, cuz we base it in DnD and they don't even put it in profiles or in the Verse page
Maybe we should ask them in DND-GDT if nothing is shown due to outdating or what do they do with it
 
Quite the good question, cuz we base it in DnD and they don't even put it in profiles or in the Verse page
Maybe we should ask them in DND-GDT if nothing is shown due to outdating or what do they do with it
That's probably the way to do it, we're already halfway there since I've already compiled all the hax they can resist now we just need to know how it works for D&D
 
That's probably the way to do it, we're already halfway there since I've already compiled all the hax they can resist now we just need to know how it works for D&D
I encourage you to visit it

 
I encourage you to visit it

Read the discussion and have nothing to add rn except that since Bambu said it could feasibly be a verse specific ability page, it should probably be added to the occultism page. I'll keep watching the thread though
 
Read the discussion and have nothing to add rn except that since Bambu said it could feasibly be a verse specific ability page, it should probably be added to the occultism page. I'll keep watching the thread though
Opa, not quite it

If we add to the Occultism page, that'd mean that it'd only apply to those who know how to perform Rituals, but resistances/saving throws apply even to people with 0%NEX, so it'd only be fully correct to get another page done
 
Opa, not quite it

If we add to the Occultism page, that'd mean that it'd only apply to those who know how to perform Rituals, but resistances/saving throws apply even to people with 0%NEX, so it'd only be fully correct to get another page done
I was thinking something like the Cursed Energy Manipulation page jujutsu kaisen has, where they have pretty much every power in the verse. This is because I also want to catalogue the Creature Phisiology as an ability for the verse, also maybe call it Otherside Phisiology.

Anyway, check out the page prototype. I think when we link it in our profiles, we should have something in the ability page of the character that says like
Will (Ordem Paranormal) (X layers)
Fortitude (Ordem Paranormal) (Y layers)
Since characters usually have different levels of both those skills, they would have differing resistance layers too.
Tell me if you'd prefer this to be a standalone page or if you like my idea of mixing all the pages into one
 
I was thinking something like the Cursed Energy Manipulation page jujutsu kaisen has, where they have pretty much every power in the verse. This is because I also want to catalogue the Creature Phisiology as an ability for the verse, also maybe call it Otherside Phisiology.

Anyway, check out the page prototype. I think when we link it in our profiles, we should have something in the ability page of the character that says like
Will (Ordem Paranormal) (X layers)
Fortitude (Ordem Paranormal) (Y layers)
Since characters usually have different levels of both those skills, they would have differing resistance layers too.
Tell me if you'd prefer this to be a standalone page or if you like my idea of mixing all the pages into one
"Other Side Physiology" >>>>>>
Agree 100% about the layers, fingers crossed that the Thread Mods agree too

About the page, to me the Jujutsu Kaisen fails in something i wish Our verse doesnt: why are some of the tabbers veeeeeeeery short with like 2 users and others are a full-on essay? Nah, this ain't cool for me
What i think would fit, thematically and for read-easing sake, is if we put 2 pages: Occultism and Other Side Physiology, where one details only Rituals and the other details both how Creatures work and how people who are becoming one with the Other Side work, also
What do you think about this idea?
 
"Other Side Physiology" >>>>>>
Agree 100% about the layers, fingers crossed that the Thread Mods agree too

About the page, to me the Jujutsu Kaisen fails in something i wish Our verse doesnt: why are some of the tabbers veeeeeeeery short with like 2 users and others are a full-on essay? Nah, this ain't cool for me
What i think would fit, thematically and for read-easing sake, is if we put 2 pages: Occultism and Other Side Physiology, where one details only Rituals and the other details both how Creatures work and how people who are becoming one with the Other Side work, also
What do you think about this idea?
That's good I suppose, but we have to get it approved first
 
Yes, yes!

I'll work on the characters and you work on it, this way we can get it quite faster, IMO
 
Why are you making her have 9-A to 8-C stats?
From what i got from ur calcs, we have basically 3 tiers
  • Anarquic/Grenade (9-B, tier 1)
  • Anomiatic (9-A, tier 2)
  • Tempestuous (8-C, tier 3)

On her first key she scales to Degolificada if not directly, due to scaling to Thiago, so she cannot be Tier 1 already from the start.
And in OSNF if she was "baseline" tier 2, she would have died in the hands of Deus Da Morte, cuz that guy is AMAZING, hence why i call out the "Likely tier 3", due to her being able to end a Relic.
Yes, yes, the system was very different back then, but it doesn't change much as i see it
 
From what i got from ur calcs, we have basically 3 tiers
  • Anarquic/Grenade (9-B, tier 1)
  • Anomiatic (9-A, tier 2)
  • Tempestuous (8-C, tier 3)

On her first key she scales to Degolificada if not directly, due to scaling to Thiago, so she cannot be Tier 1 already from the start.
And in OSNF if she was "baseline" tier 2, she would have died in the hands of Deus Da Morte, cuz that guy is AMAZING, hence why i call out the "Likely tier 3", due to her being able to end a Relic.
Yes, yes, the system was very different back then, but it doesn't change much as i see it
Tempestuous is High 8-C actually, which is a preetty large jump from 9-A. I don't think she scales to DDM because he simply never attacked her neither did she attack him (well she might have attacked him but I don't remember). They only defeated DDM with the high tier explosives from Kenan. And I can see her scaling to 9-A I guess, but I think it's a bit sketchy, maybe a "9-B, possibly 9-A" ?
 
Tempestuous is High 8-C actually, which is a preetty large jump from 9-A. I don't think she scales to DDM because he simply never attacked her neither did she attack him (well she might have attacked him but I don't remember). They only defeated DDM with the high tier explosives from Kenan. And I can see her scaling to 9-A I guess, but I think it's a bit sketchy, maybe a "9-B, possibly 9-A" ?
Of course she scales to H8-C, DDM's punches were able to kill them quickly but not in a single hit for them to be on a clearly distinct tier
If he was able to kill her in a single tap, which the diff would imply...why would he just use the aging skill? Also, yes, she attacked him IIRC.
Yeah, they wouldn't be able to kill DDM, but he was not one-shotting them all either.

Why would the 9-A be sketchy if she had to survive the Degolificada and scales to Thiago who ended her multiple times, while the creature is not in the same realm of a Blood Zombie, Anarquic, etc who are in the 9-B spectrum? Well, Degolificada is not on the same realm of a Relic either on the form they fought, but definetely not 9-B
 
Of course she scales to H8-C, DDM's punches were able to kill them quickly but not in a single hit for them to be on a clearly distinct tier
If he was able to kill her in a single tap, which the diff would imply...why would he just use the aging skill? Also, yes, she attacked him IIRC.
Yeah, they wouldn't be able to kill DDM, but he was not one-shotting them all either.

Why would the 9-A be sketchy if she had to survive the Degolificada and scales to Thiago who ended her multiple times, while the creature is not in the same realm of a Blood Zombie, Anarquic, etc who are in the 9-B spectrum? Well, Degolificada is not on the same realm of a Relic either on the form they fought, but definetely not 9-B
DDM didn't attack them because that was not his desire. In revelando OSNF Cellbit says that the DDM would only strike someone if they got in the way of another person he was trying to age, and when he explained what damge he would deal, it was more than enough to one shot everyone there.

The 9-A value is for the anomiatic, who is a decently powerful creature, more powerful than any creature Liz fought I believe. The degolificada was said by cellbit to become stronger each encarnation, the one in Iniciação wasn't as strong as the one in Desconjuração, which wasn't as strong as the one in the book
 
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