I don’t think that just because the attack’s appearance isn’t the same as the others, it means that it was an electromagnetic wave. Especially since this contradicts the description, which states that the waves vaporize everything they touch. However, when it hit the ground, it was fragmented — which shouldn’t have happened.
This is what the thread should’ve been tbh
I've heard arguments for that like fragmentation being a stage of vaporization and that attack you linked in it's entirety was a completely different non-beam attack. I agree with the premise however, that it's dubious to assume the beam was an EMW just because by name, it's mentioned that Kashimo uses EM Waves along with two other abilities that the attack in question couldn't have been especially since Kashimo can manipulate ALL electricity based phenomena
Gun, for your example to work, it must have happened or have some logic behind
The rage amped version of Piercing Blood is Mach 2.5
It makes sense for them to get caught off guard, but not that they are making themselves 520 times slower for no reason whatsoever. Imagine if you are a pro boxer and your reaction speed is up to the top league, you get into a bar fight but for some reason the guy punched you faster than what you were predicting. It would hit you, despiste you being faster than them.
Bro if I see a turle without legs being attacked by a sloth with brain cancer in the street while moving towards me I won't call it fast
And why do you think Uraume would be holding back as if they were in a sparring training
You don't need to waste time with raws when the official translation just says the same thing. It's a waste of space and effort in your part
Off guard doesn't mean much. Uraume was still trying to block and barely had time to put their hands up. I don't think you understand how much faster Uraume would be. They would over 520 times faster than Choso's Piercing Blood. That's the equivalent of having difficult in blocking a snail moving towards you from 10 METERS AWAY. It just doesn't make sense. The moment that the blood came out of Choso's hands, Uraume would have already been in position to block ages ago
In this case is worst. This feat was rejected due to this exact rule ages ago. The lightning is show to be near instant and impossible to react. It wouldn't make sense for Hakari to be FASTER than the lightning. If he was, why couldn't he just dodge it before it reached MILLIMETERS from his face? Kashimo was around 4 meters away from Hakari. If Hakari was faster than it, why did he waited for it to get SO CLOSE? Is he stupid?
? Of course it wasn't affected, the attack is done mid air, there's nothing to affect. It's not as if Sukuna cutting the groud would have been the consequence from hitting the EMW. It just shows that the dismantle was expanding the more it moved towards Kashimo
Your explanation doesn't make sense
Sukuna warned Kashimo before the final chant ("Paired Falling Stars")
Nuh uh
They're combat speed, the entire point is in the first sentence.
That's not my point. That's for showing us that the idea Sukuna holds back to hundreds of times is not concrete, in your case you argue him to be thousands of times since you have his reactions at rel.
I saw this half an hour ago even if you posted it way earlier, mb. I’ve already explained my reasoning above and I can't really continue to discuss as of today but it's fine if you can't see it, it's not like this CRT is gonna be approved either way, unfortunately. My discord is in my bio in case you want to discuss this further, since I bet I can be up to fully discuss this after this will be rejected
To aim dodge WCS he would have to move while his EMW was traveling to Sukuna, so that still leads to Relativistic MBA Kashimo anyways
Thanks for reading
ik a rare feat for a jjk fanThanks for reading
If someone wants to put together a proposal for it, that's fine.
relativistic crt by a long shot
I'm pretty sure naoya/naobito are only the fastest sorcerers baring all special grades or equal, because all the special grades are beyond Mach 1 unless you wanna say all special grade sorcerers are subsonic except gojo and sukuna
I also disagree with OP arguments.
Was probably just told from the perspective of HQ who don’t know about Kenjaku, don’t know about the extent of Yuki’s abilities, and for whom Yuta is brand new. And of course the reincarnated sorcerers hadn’t been woken up yet.
I mean the only argument so far specific to Gojo instead of scaling off of other characters is for the Black Flash statement which the OP already points out can just be a matter of timing/precision.
15F Sukuna also doesn’t have any speed cap. Besides, I didn’t even bring up scaling them to any tier in combat or travel speed. The OP’s proposal was about reaction/perception speed. That shouldn’t be a problem because narrative statements don’t impose a speed cap on that.
Except don’t need MHS+ perceptions and reaction speed to have a blow connect during a certain interval, only precision and timing, exactly the sort of thing the Six Eyes sounds like it should be great at. This is not the same as needing to throw a punch from start to finish within that timeframe, as otherwise slower characters would never be able to land it.
Never a fan of obscene gaps between combat speed and reaction speed without a clear in-universe reason for it, but fine.
It seems dubious that he wouldn’t have had the chance to do the same to Uraume over their own protracted battle. Especially considering even a tiny fraction of the proposed reaction speed for Hakari would still be orders of magnitude above that of Uraume.
With all due respect, but timing something under the timeframe of 1/1000000 does need perception speed, that's the whole concept of "perception"
Not quite the same thing, as people can anticipate actions to time stuff with a timeframe much more narrow than the timeframe of what they could actually visually react to.
Gojo having much much faster perception compared to most is important plot point in JJK(chapter 90). It's stated he process minute of information in seemingly an instant for others
Yeah I know. I am saying time it takes people to register visual input is longer than what they can anticipate and time for. For comparison what we use as the top of peak human perception time is 80ms, a difference of an entire order of magnitude.
Yep I’m aware, but EldemadeDityjon was arguing for reaction speed, not just perception speed.
There is a difference between Yuji who lands BF due to his luck vs Gojo saying he can do it with his will if it was just applying CE on impact.
Uraume has AOE attacks. Higher reaction speed does not allow a character to evade AOE attacks automatically. Movement speed and reaction speed can vary drastically.
The point is that if the timeframe refers to how long you have to both initiate and land a punch then it wouldn’t matter how lucky the likes of S1 Yuji or Nobara are since they would never be able to complete it in time. The statement refers strictly to the timeframe in which CE lands after a blow connects, which is about timing.
Because the microsecond timing is like, irrefutable without being mad disingenuous. Also when are we gonna learn, we gotta make upgrades that are SLOW, and steady
This will make a fine addition to my blitz timing crt(which I’ll probably never make since I’m lazy) also how tf does maki know about toji
Why would she not know about Toji? She obviously should be aware about previous heavenly restriction user, who has exiled from Zenon clan. He was famous for killing sorcerers, and almost killed her sensei. Gojo def told her about him and give more or less accurate portrayal of his power and speed.
Takaba's Comedian>Gojo and Sukuna gang
