Death (No, I'm Not a Human) profile restoration (TRASHED)

[Comiphorous]

Ykw, even if i don't agree with death being a real entity, if it is indexed (since i seem outvoted here) I think a lot of statements here are misused here to give the entity a higher rating. I think the following changes are made, i will be content with it's existence;

Removing the "infinite size" realm thing, as there's no proof beyond just vibes.

The immortal man's statement should be not used at all. He is not referring to death, but the concept of reincarnation and does not imply infinite realities at all.

Removing any usage of isolation land as proof for alternate dimensions. Much like the first bit i'm complaining about, there's no proof that's infinite either nor anything saying what it really is in the first place.

Conceptual manipulation goes for the same reason the afterlife and rebirth statements shouldn't be used.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I can see Low 2-C and likely 2-A but not Low 1-C. She's not a dimension higher than everything else.

Where does 2-A come from? a mention of infinite resurrection is not enough to even prove the existence of different timelines. Could be reborn within the same world. There is also like no correlation and more so assumptions that the cycle of rebirth is even referring to samsara. Name dropping isn’t even enough to use as a scale regardless. So 2-A shouldn’t even be an option

We don't know if she is the embodiment of death or not. This requires her to flat out state she is.

Would still get AE based on the void stuff.

Sure.

Possibly. she also qualifies for existence erasure and void manipulation.

This needs mods to check out.

Only Type 1. It is not shown that she is deathless.

She does not exhibit any large size.

Agree with the rest

 

[Hawktaro]

Ykw, even if i don't agree with death being a real entity

I said 300 times and even proved she is indeed a real being. Its up to you.

Removing the "infinite size" realm thing, as there's no proof beyond just vibes.

Yup. The "infinite size" comes from her dimension, in which is meant to be a universe and/or higher plane. If I'm not mistaken, the dimension is also called
"cosmic realm" in the game files.

Where does 2-A come from? a mention of infinite resurrection is not enough to even prove the existence of different timelines. Could be reborn within the same world. There is also like no correlation and more so assumptions that the cycle of rebirth is even referring to samsara. Name dropping isn’t even enough to use as a scale regardless. So 2-A shouldn’t even be an option

The whole samsara in-game is just a theory, and yes it does have correlation with the immortal man's dialogue. regardless, lets not use it. She would be Low 2-C without the other dialogues. I dunno where 2-A comes from. Oh, and the samsara uses parallel realities, not the same worlds.

We don't know if she is the embodiment of death or not. This requires her to flat out state she is.

There's already proof. Being nothingness, mentioning eternity, the voids and even the leader says death claims everyone.

 

[Comiphorous]

I said 300 times and even proved she is indeed a real being. Its up to you.

You "proved" it by using a suicide cult which threatens to destroy the very thing they're supposedly there for. If they're willing to lie and bluff about that, what else are they lying and bluffing about as well? They aren't reliable.

Your other proof are theories based off what the visitors say. This is the big thing. You cannot use theories to scale these characters because theories are not facts. It's the reason why the fnaf verse was purged once to be remade from the ground up.

Yup. The "infinite size" comes from her dimension, in which is meant to be a universe and/or higher plane. If I'm not mistaken, the dimension is also called
"cosmic realm" in the game files.

Is there in game proof of that or are we still working on assumptions here? I dislike using game files for scaling.

The whole samsara in-game is just a theory, and yes it does have correlation with the immortal man's dialogue. regardless, lets not use it. She would be Low 2-C without the other dialogues. I dunno where 2-A comes from. Oh, and the samsara uses parallel realities, not the same worlds.

Using a theory instead of facts already is the reason it was deleted in the first place. The stuff you use needs to be confirmed, not based off popular theories.

 

[Hawktaro]

You "proved" it by using a suicide cult which threatens to destroy the very thing they're supposedly there for. If they're willing to lie and bluff about that, what else are they lying and bluffing about as well? They aren't reliable.

No, i didnt use theories, i used in-game dialogue. I already told you the theory is disconnected from everything else with the exception of the samsara, in which i just discarded. You arent even paying attention to my stuff anymore, i explained the thing about the cult minutes ago.

Is there in game proof of that or are we still working on assumptions here?

Death herself said that she is the creator of time; I don't see what assumption is being made here.

Using a theory instead of facts already is the reason it was deleted in the first place. The stuff you use needs to be confirmed, not based off popular theories.

It wasnt deleted because of that and there was only one theory (im not even using it anymore lol)

 

[Comiphorous]

No, i didnt use theories, i used in-game dialogue. I told you already the theory is disconnected from everything else with the exception of the samsara, in which i just discarded. You arent even paying attention to my stuff anymore, i explained the thing about the cult already.

In game dialogue which you are using to make a theory out of. That's how theories are made.

Death herself said that she is the creator of time; I don't see what assumption is being made here.

That isn't saying the place the player is in is a realm. So i take that as a no.

It wasnt deleted because of that and there was only one theory (im not even using it anymore lol)

So it's unknown tier without it, they have a single statement regarding them being the creator of time and that's literally it.

 

[Hawktaro]

In game dialogue which you are using to make a theory out of. That's how theories are made.

Bro... How slow can you be? There was no theory; its exactly what the game shows. What is said by the characters later happens in the game; I dont get how hard it is to notice that. Have you even played it in the first place?

So it's unknown tier without it, they have a single statement regarding them being the creator of time and that's literally it.

Creating time is Low 2-C, from all i know. Could be wrong tho.

 

[ReverseCross]

I can't really agree with this considering the fact that multiple factions or individuals acknowledges Death's existence. The prophet for one, the visitors for two, the death cultists for three and the mushroom guy for last (calls her mycelium).

So this is a fallacy that stems from a belief whose existence many people and groups are convinced of, yet no concrete evidence has ever been found.

 

[ReverseCross]

It’s the same as saying “God existed because they believed in God.”

 

[ReverseCross]

Disagree

 

[Comiphorous]

Bro... How slow can you be? There was no theory; its exactly what the game shows. What is said by the characters later happens in the game; I dont get how hard it is to notice that.

Ok let me show you something;

"I'm just telling you what I was told.

That's all.

Do you feel it? Death creeping closer and closer?"

- Later we find Death down on your house. Coincidence?

"Everything's been decided for us.

A blessing, wouldn't you say?

Or do you want to fix it all by yourself?"

- This decision is death, just like the cultists worship her as salvation. Fixing it all by ourselves is killing everyone we let in.

He only threatens us if we ignore him, and he doesn't even burn our house at all. He's clearly bluffing and trying intimidation. He didn't say they have a connection; he thinks Death has taken a liking to our house because many have died there.

"Some were burned. Some dragged out and executed.

Death's taken a liking to you, yesss"

I dont think hes full of shit if the things he say actually happens later in the game.

"Death spoke to me not long ago. She hopes to meet you when the time comes.

She may offer you a place to hide. From everything. ...Even from the end itself."

- Maybe it's just a coincidence again? Yeah.

Notice here that none of this confirmation but your own theory about what those statements mean? That's why it's a theory, especially when you leave out context on why they were saying these things, or ignoring later things the characters say.

Regarding the pale man, he says

They told me this would be our last little chat.

Everything is coming to an end.

Either by our hands or your own.

He says this on the last night he visits you regardless what ending you're going to get. This is not specific to death at all. It just means the player is closing in on an ending. Unrelated to death completely.

Just before he talks about everything be decided for us, he says this;

So you're still holed up here I see...
...
What did you think of that guy? The one in the suit?

again, he's not talking about death. He's talking about FEMA. He's talking about FEMA attempting to stop the visitors and fix the sun. Giving just a little bit more context to these statements completely dismantles it being about Death. You can headcanon what you were saying being what he might be referencing but based off what he says prior doesn't sound like that's true.

Regarding the cult leader;

"Some were burned. Some dragged out and executed.

Death's taken a liking to you, yesss"

Well that didn't happen. Again this is just the cult leader referring to the death cult in the city murdering people on the TV. Not death as an entity. That actually sounds more like a threat to kill the player more than anything.

"Death spoke to me not long ago. She hopes to meet you when the time comes.

She may offer you a place to hide. From everything. ...Even from the end itself."

He says this on night 10, even if you aren't on track getting the ending that would lead to seeing that. So either his future sighting isn't right in the first place or Death can see through several playthroughs, even though he says this no matter what.

Creating time is Low 2-C, from all i know. Could be wrong tho.

Creating a timeline isn't the same as creating time. two different things.

 

[Hawktaro]

So you're still holed up here I see...
...
What did you think of that guy? The one in the suit?

again, he's not talking about death. He's talking about FEMA. He's talking about FEMA attempting to stop the visitors and fix the sun. Giving just a little bit more context to these statements completely dismantles it being about Death. You can headcanon what you were saying being what he might be referencing but based off what he says prior doesn't sound like that's true.

? I didnt mention the FEMA and i didnt mention death there.

Creating a timeline isn't the same as creating time. two different thing

A universe is a spacetime continuum with its own set of physics. Timeline is a chronological sequence of events within that universe. A single universe is a single timeline.

Well that didn't happen. Again this is just the cult leader referring to the death cult in the city murdering people on the TV. Not death as an entity. That actually sounds more like a threat to kill the player more than anything.

What i said wasn't even referring to that. Besides not paying attention, you're also mixing up things.

 

[Hawktaro]

So this is a fallacy that stems from a belief whose existence many people and groups are convinced of, yet no concrete evidence has ever been found.

Literally proven after all the dialogue leading to her.

"A powerful entity awaits the cat's approach.

It is thanks to she that my eye reach far. But even I do not see all."


"You know, there is an entity stronger than us all.

But you need not fear it. We are simply unaware.

It will come to help you if asked."


"I... I see what comes next. The basement.

Something's there, beneath the soil.

You're meant to find it."


We have characters commenting about it, with the dialogue proving to be true at the end, but its not considered a confirmation?

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I said 300 times and even proved she is indeed a real being. Its up to you.


Yup. The "infinite size" comes from her dimension, in which is meant to be a universe and/or higher plane. If I'm not mistaken, the dimension is also called
"cosmic realm" in the game files.

Nothing here shows infinite size,or size in general.universes aren’t assumed to be infinite,and cosmic realm doesn’t do anything for scaling at all.

The whole samsara in-game is just a theory, and yes it does have correlation with the immortal man's dialogue. regardless, lets not use it. She would be Low 2-C without the other dialogues. I dunno where 2-A comes from. Oh, and the samsara uses parallel realities, not the same worlds.

The point is that regardless of what it uses. The verse doesn’t scale to it just for name dropping it. Such as goh having Nirvana, or the many mentions of the world tree in other verses.

There's already proof. Being nothingness, mentioning eternity, the voids and even the leader says death claims everyone.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

You "proved" it by using a suicide cult which threatens to destroy the very thing they're supposedly there for. If they're willing to lie and bluff about that, what else are they lying and bluffing about as well? They aren't reliable.

Your other proof are theories based off what the visitors say. This is the big thing. You cannot use theories to scale these characters because theories are not facts. It's the reason why the fnaf verse was purged once to be remade from the ground up.

I think theories are fine as long as they are supported and pose no contradictions.id also say that there is decent enough evidence proving that death does exist,so using a few extra statements that are possibly talking about death should be fine. Your arguments are mostly in a skeptic nature though they are good arguments.i just think they aren’t really needed,because regardless of if they are used or not,nothing would really change.what he is arguing just isn’t supported even with those scans so there really isn’t a need to make the thread longer on something that won’t change anything regardless of if it was accepted or rejected.

Bro... How slow can you be? There was no theory; its exactly what the game shows. What is said by the characters later happens in the game; I dont get how hard it is to notice that. Have you even played it in the first place?

You don’t need to insult

Creating time is Low 2-C, from all i know. Could be wrong tho.

No. it isn’t a tier with just that

 

[Hawktaro]

Nothing here shows infinite size,or size in general.universes aren’t assumed to be infinite,and cosmic realm doesn’t do anything for scaling at all.

Yes, since the information is very vague we need to analyze whats shown. Of course we arent sure it is infinite (probably it isnt) but its clearly a higher plane.

You don’t need to insult

Not a insult, but yeah. He's been mixing things up and misunderstanding what im trying to say, no wonder hes not getting it.

No. it isn’t a tier with just that

From what ive seen, its Low 2-C due to affecting a 4-dimensional space... unless the wiki changed that.

 

[Greatsage13th]

The existance of Death is not something 100% confirmed and many people disagree with such. I really would prefer if it didn't had a profile at all

How many exactly? Because I haven't seen anyone disagreeing on her existence until @Comiphorous came here.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

87% of the players that I have seen. But I really don't care about how the powerscaling of this verse goes

 

[Hawktaro]

How many exactly? Because I haven't seen anyone disagreeing on her existence until @Comiphorous came here.

fr, i even sent proof of her existence, but somehow he still believes its a theory/not real even though the game clearly says otherwise.

 

[Hawktaro]

87% of the players that I have seen. But I really don't care about how the powerscaling of this verse goes

same lmao. im just doing it for fun and im bored asf

 

[Greatsage13th]

I think the tier can be possibly low 2-C. But at she would be unknown or 4-A for the most part since her stats are not clear for us to pinpoint other than the fact that she resides in a place she created that contains a starry sky.

 

[Greatsage13th]

87% of the players that I have seen.

Wha—?

How the ****?

I could've sworn that they were the minority, not the majority.

 

[Hawktaro]

I think the tier can be possibly low 2-C. But at she would be unknown or 4-A for the most part since her stats are not clear for us to pinpoint other than the fact that she resides in a place she created that contains a starry sky.

Agreed. But isn't time creation low 2-C, as it also involves 4D?

 

[Greatsage13th]

Agreed. But isn't time creation low 2-C, as it also involves 4D?

Again, we do not know the scale. Because Low 2-C requires time destruction on a universal scale, and we do not know the scale of Death's influence.

 

[Hawktaro]

Again, we do not know the scale. Because Low 2-C requires time destruction on a universal scale, and we do not know the scale of Death's influence.

By default, time is considered 4D. Btw we already talked about this. Its stated that death is everywhere, and i also mentioned the higher plane since the start. Theres also nothingness, eternity, voids, etc. Death also mention the Cosmos.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Ah, nevermind then. I guess we can do Low 2-C at bare minimum.

 

[Hawktaro]

Well, lets wait to see what the staff thinks about it

If i mentioned the Cosmos in the start and avoided the samsara it would've been easier

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Yes, since the information is very vague we need to analyze whats shown. Of course we arent sure it is infinite (probably it isnt) but its clearly a higher plane.

Statements of higher planes don’t scale anywhere alone

Not a insult, but yeah. He's been mixing things up and misunderstanding what im trying to say, no wonder hes not getting it.


From what ive seen, its Low 2-C due to affecting a 4-dimensional space... unless the wiki changed that.

Of universal size

 

[Greatsage13th]

Of universal size

That's already cleared up since he brought up the fact that Death holds dominion across the cosmos. Which basically sums it up as universal range.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

That's already cleared up since he brought up the fact that Death holds dominion across the cosmos. Which basically sums it up as universal range.

I don’t think that clarifies anything tbh.things can grow over time. So if she created time. And then overtime something universal in size is born. ≠her creating it.

 

[Greatsage13th]

I don’t think that clarifies anything tbh.things can grow over time. So if she created time. And then overtime something universal in size is born. ≠her creating it.

Not when all things eventually end in death. Which is the fate of all things in No, I'm not human. So, she'll still scale above all her creations that possess an end.

 

[Hawktaro]

I don’t think that clarifies anything tbh.things can grow over time. So if she created time. And then overtime something universal in size is born. ≠her creating it.

I think you're being a bit too specific... the dialogue has already made things clear

 

[Comiphorous]

Not when all things eventually end in death. Which is the fate of all things in No, I'm not human. So, she'll still scale above all her creations that possess an end.

this doesn’t mean Universal at all. That doesn’t even mean any scaling. People die, that’s fairly obvious.

 

[Hawktaro]

this doesn’t mean Universal at all. That doesn’t even mean any scaling. People die, that’s fairly obvious.

Not paying attention yet again. Cosmos = Universe and nature of order

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Not when all things eventually end in death. Which is the fate of all things in No, I'm not human. So, she'll still scale above all her creations that possess an end.

Is there any evidence that the universe itself is counted as this?
Also yet again. The death of a universe overtime still wouldn’t scale to uni.
Nothing here actually gives context to this. (I will look into it more as I will admit I was busy and tired when I first looked)

For example. Death in solo leveling is the end of all things as it returns back to nothingness.which would make it scaleable. But I am just not seeing that here

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Not paying attention yet again. Cosmos = Universe and nature of order

Not arguing against that. Just arguing that there isn’t really evidence that she created it.

 

[Hawktaro]

Not arguing against that. Just arguing that there isn’t really evidence that she created it.

• Is called the "powerful entity above all of us" in the game
• Worshiped as the supreme being
• Stated she is the one who invented time
• Nothingness, eternity, voids, afterlife, cosmic realm

You know, it isnt hard to put pieces together. Also its not like the developer will explain the most obvious and self explanatory stuff word by word to us

 

[Comiphorous]

Is called the "powerful entity above all of us" in the game

Which is great for secondary evidence, not like the whole evidence.

Worshiped as the supreme being

Doesn't prove anything.

Stated she is the one who invented time

Which means nothing on it's own

Nothingness, eternity, voids, afterlife, cosmic realm

Using game files for scaling with an added bunch of nothing on it's own.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

• Is called the "powerful entity above all of us" in the game

Does not do anything at all.

• Worshiped as the supreme being

Does nothing

• Stated she is the one who invented time

Conceptual manipulation possibly. Does nothing for tier alone

• Nothingness, eternity, voids, afterlife, cosmic realm

These are also applicable to hax. For example. Jinwoo has all of this. Yet his current tier is island level. (Will change soon)

You know, it isnt hard to put pieces together. Also its not like the developer will explain the most obvious and self explanatory stuff word by word to us

There needs to be at least something supporting the things you are arguing . None of these scans prove AP. They are Evidence of hax/abillities.and basing theories and things isn’t going to work when it is equally supported that these are abilities instead of AP.


I agree on the profile and most abilities,but not tier

 

[ReverseCross]

It can be listed as Unknown.