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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

noninho said:
We're talking about "Possibly" having those things because he could be eating and/or sleeping whenever Dooku left the training ground on that period and he probably could sleep in that mountain, somehow, just don't eat.
We don't get a definitive statement or something like "he did not eat while climbing the mountain" or something like that.
And reading both Body Control and Self-Sustenance pages, i'm really thinking that we only have enough argument to base "Possibly Self-Sustenance", because, again, we don't have a statement like "Yoda fought against sleep for almost a month" or "Yoda forced himself up against that mountain despite lacking food for a week", so nothing indicating body control exists, so far (if it appears amidst those 40+ books that i'm trying to read, i'll add it to the sandbox instantly);
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Can it be considered a stamina feat though?
 
Some more Jedi: Survivor stuff:

According to the Tactical Guide, Dagan Gera was weakened from 200 years of stasis during his initial fight with Cal, but fully recovered by the time of the second fight, with that entry describing him as bringing the full skill of "one of the Orders' finest warriors", which seems like further evidence that he should scale above most High Republic Jedi. The illusion powers Dagan used "can manipulate even the strongest of minds".

Design developer Jason de Heras stated in an interview that during Jedi: Survivor, Cere's power level is supposed to be drastically different from Cal's, and an active effort was made to reflect that difference in the gameplay.

In a different interview, he also briefly described Cal's dark side amp:

“We had to go back to the drawing board a little bit and think about, how can we take his existing powers but dial it up 10 levels,” notes De Herera “In those moments you’re still doing what you’re used to, but they’re mechanically easier now. We added more effects and sound so you feel the leap from something you’ve previously done, to where now you can feel the rage or emotion going through Cal the minute you press any button.”

Bode is Cal's equal in power:

"That's the base of how our combat designer who worked on his boss design started, and then from there, we start thinking about how he's going to be the big bad at the end and how we can have somebody that's going to be super hard, super powerful, and showcase that mirror version of Cal in terms of power level and how you're going up against yourself or your brother."
 
Dinobot1996 said:
Some more Jedi: Survivor stuff:

According to the Tactical Guide, Dagan Gera was weakened from 200 years of stasis during his initial fight with Cal, but fully recovered by the time of the second fight, with that entry describing him as bringing the full skill of "one of the Orders' finest warriors", which seems like further evidence that he should scale above most High Republic Jedi. The illusion powers Dagan used "can manipulate even the strongest of minds".

Design developer Jason de Heras stated in an interview that during Jedi: Survivor, Cere's power level is supposed to be drastically different from Cal's, and an active effort was made to reflect that difference in the gameplay.

In a different interview, he also briefly described Cal's dark side amp:

“We had to go back to the drawing board a little bit and think about, how can we take his existing powers but dial it up 10 levels,” notes De Herera “In those moments you’re still doing what you’re used to, but they’re mechanically easier now. We added more effects and sound so you feel the leap from something you’ve previously done, to where now you can feel the rage or emotion going through Cal the minute you press any button.”

Bode is Cal's equal in power:

"That's the base of how our combat designer who worked on his boss design started, and then from there, we start thinking about how he's going to be the big bad at the end and how we can have somebody that's going to be super hard, super powerful, and showcase that mirror version of Cal in terms of power level and how you're going up against yourself or your brother."
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That 10× statement along with Yoda's muliplier and the long scaling chain is gonna make that 5-C feat insane
 
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Ok, let's go with it.

1- Before I say anything, did you ask for the original posted to post this here? None of what I say matters if that's the case, even if you gave credit I believe you should ask them for permission to post this while not altered

2- "The most clearcut information given in the novel would be these scans.This gives pretty solid confirmation that this Emergence is roughly Moon Level". Well, no, it tells us that the surface of the moon is going to be vaporized, which I don't think would be 5-C, you would need to calc that

3- "Now, while in the novel they state even a 1% change is sufficient, we actually know that they're doing much more than that. As it's noted that the long beam cruisers only have a 1/3 chance of actually connecting with the debris, due to the speed in which the debris is moving.". That's a big jump from what was actually said, if this blog is to be accepted you need to use the original vallues

4- " "Moons" in Star Wars are consistently bigger than our own, sometimes to a massive degree. Endor, which is noted as a small moon, has a diameter of 4,900 km, over 1.4 times the size of our moon." Kinda hard to gauge with only 2 examples, but Endor is apparently called small so I'm fine with this size

5- From what I could understand, they got the mass from the Debris based on the destruction, but once again, you're using the wrong "Energy" to destroy it as well as the wrong speed reduction

If these are fixed I might give another look
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Can it be considered a stamina feat though?
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Actually, that's a good point i forgot about

Cuz it is not possible to acquire food from that "mountain", so even if he somehow slept there, it's already justifying Type 2 Self-Sustenance and Superhuman stamina. Adding that to the profile

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
How does pairing up Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as master and padawan count as "outsmarting"?

Sounds more like Yoda was able to deduce the best pairing of master and padawan for both.
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...which, despite they both trying really hard to figure out throught their entire story together and being two of the smartest characters in the verse (at least in the top 7, undeniably), they took months (likely more than a year) to figure out.
Well, yes this is not a complex Lelouch plan or something like it, he's just Paulo Freire'ing with his 800 years of experience and even though he didn't try to hide or anything, they couldn't understand it for a pretty huge while...
Which is, as i know it, outsmarting
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
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The Power of High Republic Jedi

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Ok, let's go with it.

1- Before I say anything, did you ask for the original posted to post this here? None of what I say matters if that's the case, even if you gave credit I believe you should ask them for permission to post this while not altered

2- "The most clearcut information given in the novel would be these scans.This gives pretty solid confirmation that this Emergence is roughly Moon Level". Well, no, it tells us that the surface of the moon is going to be vaporized, which I don't think would be 5-C, you would need to calc that

3- "Now, while in the novel they state even a 1% change is sufficient, we actually know that they're doing much more than that. As it's noted that the long beam cruisers only have a 1/3 chance of actually connecting with the debris, due to the speed in which the debris is moving.". That's a big jump from what was actually said, if this blog is to be accepted you need to use the original vallues

4- " "Moons" in Star Wars are consistently bigger than our own, sometimes to a massive degree. Endor, which is noted as a small moon, has a diameter of 4,900 km, over 1.4 times the size of our moon." Kinda hard to gauge with only 2 examples, but Endor is apparently called small so I'm fine with this size

5- From what I could understand, they got the mass from the Debris based on the destruction, but once again, you're using the wrong "Energy" to destroy it as well as the wrong speed reduction

If these are fixed I might give another look
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so no 5-C😔?
 
noninho said:
@Phsccarvalho Celebrating yet my g?
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I can't watch the video because it doesn't have subtitles and I don't understand English.

Anyway, I'm happy with any form of Wank Vader.

Furthermore, in the new Legacy of Vader chapter, in a Force vision, Luke, as a Force Spirit, tells Kylo Ren that he cannot die without destroying the Force.
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Is there anything with the weapon that was on Malachor, if i remeber correctly it could petrify/make people into stone and do so over galactic distances (if the weapon would have succeded) and that Vader tanked its explosion in rebels season 2 finale?
 
@noninho Still think it should be Yoda and Yoda (Legends) over Yoda (Disney) and Yoda (Lucasfilm)?

Like I tried to explain, Disney basically made their own canon that was separate from pre-2014 Lucafilm's.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
@noninho Still think it should be Yoda and Yoda (Legends) over Yoda (Disney) and Yoda (Lucasfilm)?

Like I tried to explain, Disney basically made their own canon that was separate from pre-2014 Lucafilm's.
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Edited it all: I do still think it would be better. Disney made their own canon, which is what is considered the main canon to the entire community, so i don't see the need to mark that it is a canon, when the current owner decided that the other is and that their current approved material is the canon


And that's all i feel about the matter, if others approve of this, make the CRT and i'll embark on it
 
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“Young Skywalker,” he croaked, as if decades hadn’t passed since he’d last seen Luke on Dagobah.
Luke knew such time didn’t amount to much in Yoda’s lifespan, but to Luke it seemed like an eternity. And during that eternity Luke had come to a grim realization. Yoda and Obi-Wan might have forged him into a weapon to fight the Emperor and Darth Vader, yet they had failed to equip him with the knowledge to stamp out the darkness for good. Their belief in the return of the Jedi had led Luke to err in his teaching and produce another Darth Vader in Kylo Ren.
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~Star Wars: The Last Jedi eBook (Chapter 17)

As this is from Luke's POV, would this be him considering that Kylo Ren is around Vader's level, or is he just speaking about them both being evil and tyrant?
Feel like/hope that it is the second case, but what do y'all think?
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
I might wait until the update Yoda page is made
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doesn't make sense to me for you to do this.
I disagree with that but i'll be updating it to "Yoda (Canon)" to follow what's currently accepted, and if more people turned out to be with me on this one, i'd make another CRT to talk about it.

Think you should do this like, rn, if you want to, cuz this isn't tied to Yoda and i can write my CRT later
 
noninho said:
~Star Wars: The Last Jedi eBook (Chapter 17)

As this is from Luke's POV, would this be him considering that Kylo Ren is around Vader's level, or is he just speaking about them both being evil and tyrant?
Feel like/hope that it is the second case, but what do y'all think?
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The second.
 
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