How about the Post Rose Kaneki vs Overhaul match considering he straight up resists decon according to arguments and practically skill stomps since he’s vastly superior to part 1 Kaneki (this was revealed after arguments for Kaneki were not hidden anymore)
Gorgon was always capable of oneshotting Sans back then with or without the High 1-B weapons. His actual primary wincon for that match was to survive long enough to take off his eyepatch and petrify Sans.
Kaneki has a mid-regen, while ordinary ghouls with much weaker regeneration quickly recover from it.
The arguments for the first match were that Kaneki's one-shot spikes were a big deal, and in this post you said that wouldn't finish him off instantly
Mid regen can't save him from a spike piercing through his head (plus being punched through his stomach and limbs would give Overhaul more than enough time to either disassemble him or shower him with spikes from all directions.
I'm not sure what this means, the spike went through his back and punched all the way through his stomach.
Because he was hit by smaller ones and also that's Base Overhaul he was fighting with.
Based on the forum rules, the arguments have been reviewed and updated. Chisaki won't be able to predict Kaneki's moves when he moves as if he's teleporting. Chisaki also can't suppress his regeneration with a single attack, because those attacks didn't even break weaker characters without regeneration.
Once again, the same arguments were used for the rematch as well, if you believe those reasons are enough to make the original match outdated, then they also make the rematch outdated as well because obviously nobody has brought these up until now.
Kaneki's mid-regen allows him to restore his head, and weaker characters don't mind severe brain injuries and brain severing.
You literally said the opposite.I'm not sure what this means, the spike went through his back and punched all the way through his stomach.
Because he was hit by smaller ones and also that's Base Overhaul he was fighting with.
20% Deku, a Low 7-B character, stated that Nemoto Overhaul's spikes would have been lethal to him hadn't he broke the ground into smaller pieces before.
If what Castorice said was true, then that match would be outdated as well, but I will need to double check and see if Kaneki resisting disintegration was an important argument in the match itself.
New arguments have emerged that haven't surfaced before. They're not related to the prior knowledge requirement. This is simply an extreme caution.
Besides this, skill and speed amp were important arguments
First of all, I was talking about the 7-C+ Kaneki, what does that have to do with the original match? And second, I only said they can't splatter him, not that they can't tear him apart or cause mortal wounds.
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Well I just checked the match, Kaneki resisting disintegration was actually an extremely important point in the match and was discussed through many pages, and even you said at some point that Overhaul's Quirk would need to be layered for it to work...
Thank you
In order for it to be accepted as multilayer, CRT is needed
Absolutely not. The main argument is "Chisaki won't be able to touch him due to the difference in skill and speed."
Is this line of discussion even relevent if chisaki cant touch kaneki due to skill and speed difference ?
Oh, really, well aren't you just admitting it's a stomp, remember my previous comment about what makes a match a stomp?
The previous match contained the same arguments against Chisaki (Kaneki can't hit without dying) and was added. Furthermore, eight people still voted for Overhaul.Oh, really, well aren't you just admitting it's a stomp, remember my previous comment about what makes a match a stomp?
This started cause Tokyo ghoul supporters kept calling a non stomp a stomp. And got a valid matchup deleted. Then recreated the mstchup with a massively unfair advantage for your charcter.. really mha is the one trying to avoid a lose?? Or yall just so salty about a valid lose that yall will scheme and lie to make sure he gets a win.
Only Kaneki's kagune resists decon. If you touch it directly, he'll die.
If you thought that match was unfair, why did you still vote for Overhaul?
That litteraly doesnt matter. This not a mitigating factor at all.
No, voting must have a reason. You can't vote because you like one character and dislike another. That takes away the meaning of the battle. The fact that you voted for Chisaki already shows that you didn't consider it a stomping or unfair match.
Aren't we just moving the goalpost here? You said that the most important part of the match was that Kaneki's skills would allow him to remain untouched by Overhaul, which would render his only way of winning useless.
I'm responding to various parts of your message. Nothing more. Just because a kagune resists deconstruction doesn't mean Chisaki can't kill it with a touch. Yes, Kaneki has skills, but the fact that eight people disagree with his victory already makes this match no small feat.
Did you even read what Nik said? It happened because he was convinced by mha's supporters points, and has since apologised for that
prior knowledge isnt massively unfair, its completely within rules to give characters prior knowledge to make it more interesting, and even with prior knowledge the match was close, yet yall still call it "unfair", that's just objectively not true
looks at Mirio vs Kaneki
completely baseless accusations that were already refuted by Nik
The third match contains the most novel arguments and was VERY CLOSE in the vote. I'd keep at least one of them.
Seems fair
Is it an official rule by to state the reasoning? if I voter for Chisaki over Kaneki and I have my reasons but I don’t bother explaining my reason does that mitigate my vote? Furthermore I can vote for a character even if it is a stomp because that character will win.
If you think a character is the winner, and the reasons have already been stated above, then that works. But it doesn't make sense if you don't believe a character will win, but are voting for them out of sympathy.
well kinda
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voting for character A over character B, but then going on and claiming that B stomps A, when character B starts winning (nothing else changed) is wrong
I meant more like the thread has started and I just state "voting Chisaki" or whatever and there's no reasoning subsequently. In this scenario I do have my reason but I just don’t state it. Is that just considered bad practice or is there a rule against it because I couldn't find a rule although it may obscure.
This answer is perfect. Thanks. I knew there was probably a rule for it, don't know how I missed it.well kinda
but agreeing with reasons above is fine generallyVersus Thread Rules
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voting for character A over character B, but then going on and claiming that B stomps A, when character B starts winning (nothing else changed) is wrong
Mommy has already responded to you. Responses like these derail threads. They're meant to be a discussion, not a profile post.
