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Soshiro vs Kaneki

While he has a ton of equipment, his most used way of fighting is his swords. If he figures Kaneki’s regen can’t be put down then maybe he switches? Kaneki’s regen is still a big issue and given how it works, Soshiro will look for a core seeing as Kaneki is going to resemble a kaiju humanoid.
 
Arkenis said:
While he has a ton of equipment, his most used way of fighting is his swords. If he figures Kaneki’s regen can’t be put down then maybe he switches? Kaneki’s regen is still a big issue and given how it works, Soshiro will look for a core seeing as Kaneki is going to resemble a kaiju humanoid.
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Kaneki has a 1.69x AP advantage and a total advantage in LS. Essentially, he could easily snatch the weapon from Soshiro's hands if they clashed swords.

He already tried something similar in the battle with Arima, and Kisho was saved by the fact that his quinque deactivated.

However, Hoshina has a huge amount of equipment.

He also has many techniques that increase his strength, so the difference in base AP won't matter.

And they are also quite close in skill.

However, Kaneki's AD+RE are doing their job. How will Soshiro overcome this, kakuja and high-mid regen, when Kaneki doesn't have a vulnerable core?
 
NikHelton said:
Why not Numbers Weapon Suit?
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Has aura that Kaneki doesn't resist.

NikHelton said:
Kaneki has a 1.69x AP advantage and a total advantage in LS. Essentially, he could easily snatch the weapon from Soshiro's hands if they clashed swords.

He already tried something similar in the battle with Arima, and Kisho was saved by the fact that his quinque deactivated.

However, Hoshina has a huge amount of equipment.

He also has many techniques that increase his strength, so the difference in base AP won't matter.

And they are also quite close in skill.

However, Kaneki's AD+RE are doing their job. How will Soshiro overcome this, kakuja and high-mid regen, when Kaneki doesn't have a vulnerable core?
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Soshiro's forcefields will make it hard for Kaneki to grab them. Soshiro has AD for skill if you really think they're close, he'll just surpass Kaneki, Kakuja is already the start here, he can just cut it up. Kaneki's regen is the main issue but we know Kaneki doesn't have endless stamina, Soshiro could just out stamina him until Kaneki can't regen anymore. He also has more abilities to avoid injury or fatigue also.
 
Arkenis said:
Has aura that Kaneki doesn't resist.


Soshiro's forcefields will make it hard for Kaneki to grab them. Soshiro has AD for skill if you really think they're close, he'll just surpass Kaneki, Kakuja is already the start here, he can just cut it up. Kaneki's regen is the main issue but we know Kaneki doesn't have endless stamina, Soshiro could just out stamina him until Kaneki can't regen anymore. He also has more abilities to avoid injury or fatigue also.
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Is this Kaneki's enhanced abilities or not?

In any case, the kagune's sharpness and limited contact area will allow Kaneki to successfully break through the barrier, and his kagune can gradually absorb chunks of Soshiro's suit.

Having one extra limb was a significant advantage for Soshiro, so a dozen such limbs in addition to his quinque skills will definitely pose problems, especially considering that his kagune is much more flexible and can freely change shape. Kaneki can also gradually adapt to such an opponent's fighting style; his accelerated perception will be a nice bonus.

Indicate that Kaneki starts in kakuja because his 7-A form is basic. Kaneki's kakuga was destroyed by Furuta, and after that, he managed to deactivate his kagune.

AD+RE will be a bigger problem for Soshiro, and frankly, I'm not sure this match is valid. Hoshina's AD isn't as impressive as Kaneki's. At some point, Kaneki will become too fast, durable, and strong.
Honestly, I'm not sure Soshira will overcome Kaneki's regeneration, given the half-ghoul's stamina and the fact that his final form just woke up from a coma, was drained of all his vitality by the Dragon, and Kaneki was constantly exposed to Kagune poison.
 
Maintaining his suit past 10 min's is very dangerous for Soshiro, in that meantime, what win con does he have on Kaneki? Kaneki can come back from mush, which I don't see happening to him, and if it does, Kaneki's AD and RE process is going to start which is going to let him blitz and one shot Soshiro. Soshiro is not going to be dealing with that + the shockwave's from that attack. Voting Kaneki.
 
Foriaa said:
Maintaining his suit past 10 min's is very dangerous for Soshiro, in that meantime, what win con does he have on Kaneki? Kaneki can come back from mush, which I don't see happening to him, and if it does, Kaneki's AD and RE process is going to start which is going to let him blitz and one shot Soshiro. Soshiro is not going to be dealing with that + the shockwave's from that attack. Voting Kaneki.
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I'm more inclined to stomp.

It's important to consider that throughout the series, Kaneki is either on RC depressants, dying, or suppressed while simultaneously exposed to the kagune's poison. His actual endurance is much higher.

I don't see a scenario where Hoshina gains the upper hand.
 
NikHelton said:
Is this Kaneki's enhanced abilities or not?
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What?

NikHelton said:
In any case, the kagune's sharpness and limited contact area will allow Kaneki to successfully break through the barrier, and his kagune can gradually absorb chunks of Soshiro's suit.
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He can just cut the kagune before it hits.

NikHelton said:
Having one extra limb was a significant advantage for Soshiro, so a dozen such limbs in addition to his quinque skills will definitely pose problems, especially considering that his kagune is much more flexible and can freely change shape. Kaneki can also gradually adapt to such an opponent's fighting style; his accelerated perception will be a nice bonus.
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He's already fought against several targets before and can send out several attacks himself. He can just dodge as well. Could you show Kaneki hitting people with analytical prediction comparable to Soshiro's scaling? Honestly starting to believe Kaneki can't land any good hits here.


Foriaa said:
Maintaining his suit past 10 min's is very dangerous for Soshiro, in that meantime, what win con does he have on Kaneki? Kaneki can come back from mush, which I don't see happening to him, and if it does, Kaneki's AD and RE process is going to start which is going to let him blitz and one shot Soshiro. Soshiro is not going to be dealing with that + the shockwave's from that attack. Voting Kaneki.
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That is true. I remember him fighting with his numbers weapon for longer so that could be a better match but the aura isn't something Kaneki can handle unfortunately.

NikHelton said:
I'm more inclined to stomp.

It's important to consider that throughout the series, Kaneki is either on RC depressants, dying, or suppressed while simultaneously exposed to the kagune's poison. His actual endurance is much higher.

I don't see a scenario where Hoshina gains the upper hand.
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Yea I'm seeing that too, I'll pick a different character for Kaneki.
 
would it be better to wait until Kaneki's profile is formatted in a more easily readable way?
 
Arkenis said:
What?
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Abilities such as duplication, force field, fire and electricity are available only if specified in the battle conditions
Arkenis said:
He can just cut the kagune before it hits.
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The Kagune is stronger and more flexible, so I'm not sure about the effectiveness of this
Arkenis said:
He's already fought against several targets before and can send out several attacks himself. He can just dodge as well.
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I can't say it's surprising
Arkenis said:
Could you show Kaneki hitting people with analytical prediction comparable to Soshiro's scaling?
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Arima
Arkenis said:
Honestly starting to believe Kaneki can't land any good hits here.
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I don't think this is in any way true
Arkenis said:
That is true. I remember him fighting with his numbers weapon for longer so that could be a better match but the aura isn't something Kaneki can handle unfortunately.


Yea I'm seeing that too, I'll pick a different character for Kaneki.
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Give this guy a rest. By the way, Juzo is on a nice winning streak, and so is Arima. I'd like to see more matches with Arima or Furuta
 
Arkenis said:
Who's working on that?
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I'm terrible with profiles, but in theory it's possible to figure it out. Although it's much better to find someone who actually understands how it works.

By the way, as far as I remember, Tokyo Ghoul: Rio is canon, and I saw an analysis by the guys who usually review Death Battle matches, and they compiled a solid list of investigator loadouts, including a Q-bullet rifle, grenades, flashbangs, a quinque, and more. In theory, Haise and Black Reaper's loadouts could be expanded.
 
Arkenis said:
no one interacting with Quanxi vs him.
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You didn't take into account that one of the users changed their voice from incon to Suzuya. We should ping the others, because the reason for the incon is completely unclear

By the way, Suzuya already received Grace over Toji

Leave a link to the match here or share it with CM or TG supporters. I think @Foriaa, @LegendariumOfLies, @Arkansalter2, @Delusionaltx2, @Epiccheev, @MintyBoi1, @Tony_di_bugalu would be to participate
Arkenis said:
I have a match in mind for him.
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By the way, we might return to the Zombieman matchup or probably close it out like a stomp. Arima's high-mid regen neg will work, and Quinque will generally slow down Zombieman's regeneration, considering he's literally immune to everything
 
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Like 90% of these do NOT belong there.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
(Btw i wasnt even the one to point out that match being a stomp. i was asleep lmao)
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I don't know, bro, the whole situation is really weird.

Arguments about stamina and regeneration were ignored because Arkenis and others said they weren't important.

When Kaneki got a lot of votes, those arguments were taken into account.

This only tells us that they should pay more attention to the arguments and close matches before they reach 5-10 pages.
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Yeah I proven myself to want good matches as shown when a Kaneki supporter said “DAMN THIS IS REALLY CLOSE”
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Who are you talking about?
 
NikHelton said:
Idk, Arkenis, sometimes I feel like Kaneki advised you to invest in a bad cryptocurrency, you went bankrupt, and now you hate him.

Everything on this list is true.
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You know these are just fra train or low attention threads lmao. Some are just outright W farms like the dante and vergil match, be serious.
 
Arkenis said:
You know these are just fra train or low attention threads lmao. Some are just outright W farms like the dante and vergil match, be serious.
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I always try to write comprehensive, interesting, and well-reasoned comments. Foriaa, Legendarium, Delusionaltx2, and others also often participate and write interesting things. I honestly don't see a problem with that.

And as far as I remember, in the Dante vs. Vergil match, you said they were stomping on Kaneki, so that's definitely not W farming.

I just make fights with my favorite characters, try to design them beautifully, and keep things interesting.
 
NikHelton said:
I don't know, bro, the whole situation is really weird.

Arguments about stamina and regeneration were ignored because Arkenis and others said they weren't important.

When Kaneki got a lot of votes, those arguments were taken into account.

This only tells us that they should pay more attention to the arguments and close matches before they reach 5-10 pages.
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To be fair for the last part, Ive seen a match that reached over 10 pages just for everyone to realize it was a stomp 😭.

Btw considering somehow what i said got taken out of context. “I woke up to whatever the hell this was” was me being oofed that one of my matchups got cooked

NikHelton said:
Who are you talking about?
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Im not on my computer to keep switching back and forth. It was said on page 1 pretty sure
 
NikHelton said:
And as far as I remember, in the Dante vs. Vergil match, you said they were stomping on Kaneki, so that's definitely not W farming.
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Yeah I did argue a stomp for abilities which people ignored or since Kaneki regens they were invalidated. The match was still Kaneki with like a 73x ap diff on Dante and Vergil and Dante having no regen comparable to Kaneki's lmao.
 
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