Club Penguin

[Phsccarvalho]

The first one, at least, is a valid feat, you only ought to change the scaling line. Rather than extend the line measuring the blast radius to the outer tips of the explosion, measure it to one of the points between the spikes. When it is adjusted, I can take a look at it, and it should be good to go. I have yet to get to the other calcs yet, sorry.

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[Antvasima]

What currently needs to be done here, more specifically?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I need to go over the other calcs to see if they're also salvageable (whether in their current forms or in some other), and Legendarium needs to adjust that first calc to be more acceptable to the sensibilities of the wiki. Ideally, we would also see new feats brought up for non-AP stats, since feasibly I may find that the feats calculated are not possible to be calculated within our margins of error.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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[Phsccarvalho]

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[Antvasima]

@Vzearr

Are you willing to help out here please?

 

[Vzearr]

Waiting on Bambu to look at the other calculations.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem, and thank you for your attention.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Bump

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I need to go over the other calcs to see if they're also salvageable (whether in their current forms or in some other), and Legendarium needs to adjust that first calc to be more acceptable to the sensibilities of the wiki. Ideally, we would also see new feats brought up for non-AP stats, since feasibly I may find that the feats calculated are not possible to be calculated within our margins of error.

bump

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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[Phsccarvalho]

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[Phsccarvalho]

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[Phsccarvalho]

I need to go over the other calcs to see if they're also salvageable (whether in their current forms or in some other), and Legendarium needs to adjust that first calc to be more acceptable to the sensibilities of the wiki. Ideally, we would also see new feats brought up for non-AP stats, since feasibly I may find that the feats calculated are not possible to be calculated within our margins of error.

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[Mr. Bambu]

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RRRAAAAAAAAAAH!

Calculation 2:​

There is no reason to assume it expands to the horizon, that's based on nothing. This calculation also involves several other unfound assumptions.

The game uses the exact same animations for it every time and it covers the horizon the same

No proof of it covering the horizon.

meaning that it can most certainly affect the area seen in the dojo as wel

Assumption.

located above snow-capped mountains, putting the minimum height at 3000 meters for it

Snow capped mountains can be less then that.

These clouds look massive and are above snow-capped mountains, suggesting they're 4000m above ground, just like cumulonimbus clouds.

Stated above, and again, assumptions.

Overall this assumption based calc is flawed and flat out wrong.

This does seem correct, the assumptions are pretty egregiously generous from what we actually see. I wouldn't use the calc at all.

Calculation 3:​

Drag Coefficent: 0.47 (The Submarine is sphere-like)

No, it's much more similar to a ufo, it look's nothing like a sphere, a ufo looks most like a airfoil and a cylinder mixed together. Which would have to be calculated to get the drag force. So this is oversimplified and wrong.

Average Sub Depth: 300 Meters

There is no depth that's the "average" for a submarine. The shape of the submarine here would likely be much higher, something like 200 meters makes more sense.

While the submarine's shape argument is correct, we can certainly say they at least pulled its weight. There could, perhaps, be more nuance to handling the submarine in general (it uses steel for the full volume when a significant chunk of the submarine's materials is a glass dome), but getting an LS from this as an absolute minimum appears easily possible. I imagine even after adjustments this absolute baseline would still be in the territory of the Class 10 on the calc.

Penguin Moves Faster Than Lightning​

This calculation is under the assumption that the lightning JUST touched the ground, when it's obvious the timeframe is flawed and that it touched the ground before they moved that distance. Let me try to dumb it down for you guys.

I punch a wall.
You calculate it and say I just touched the wall.
The wall has a deep crater.
I did not just touch the wall, I moved more distance.

This applies to the calculation at hand as we see black on the floor.

The lightning (if it is legitimate lightning, it's from a cloud but it's not a natural cloud, I assume there was a discussion about this somewhere?) argument is fine, but it is irrelevant because we can see the penguin's movement from Point A to Point B while the lightning is in transit. Even if we wanted to nitpick the speed feat here, just a couple frames before we can see the lightning move X distance while the Penguin does manage to move at least slightly.

Again, this hinges on the lightning being presumed to be legitimate lightning, but the feat should be feasible even under these arguments. The feat is not impossible to calc.

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I am usually busy these days. I have had the first bit typed up forever, but you are fortunate that today I am slightly ill and thus not working

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Again, this hinges on the lightning being presumed to be legitimate lightning, but the feat should be feasible even under these arguments. The feat is not impossible to calc.

Why wouldn't it be real? The cloud comes from Card-Jitsu Storm, which represents a real storm in the card. Basically what is drawn on the card is brought to reality.

In addition, ninjas manipulate the elements and summon real clouds. As you can see from the cloud creation calculation.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Why wouldn't it be real? The cloud comes from Card-Jitsu Storm, which represents a real storm in the card. Basically what is drawn on the card is brought to reality.

In addition, ninjas manipulate the elements and summon real clouds. As you can see from the cloud creation calculation.

Because it's like four feet above the ground and clearly made by unnatural means. As I said earlier in my comment, if it's accepted as legitimate lightning, then that's fine, I just didn't know whether it was or was just sort of assumed to be as much from the jump.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Because it's like four feet above the ground and clearly made by unnatural means. As I said earlier in my comment, if it's accepted as legitimate lightning, then that's fine, I just didn't know whether it was or was just sort of assumed to be as much from the jump.

I've never seen the wiki specify that the cloud must be at a certain height to be considered real. The cloud was only summoned from the card; basically, what's drawn on the power cards is summoned into reality. This cloud came from the Power Card Storm, which represents a real storm. Besides, as I said, ninjas summon real clouds to alter the weather.

This feat was included within the creation of the verse, so there was no discussion. Unless you want to discuss it now since you seem to disagree.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Because it's like four feet above the ground and clearly made by unnatural means. As I said earlier in my comment, if it's accepted as legitimate lightning, then that's fine, I just didn't know whether it was or was just sort of assumed to be as much from the jump.

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[Mr. Bambu]

I've never seen the wiki specify that the cloud must be at a certain height to be considered real. The cloud was only summoned from the card; basically, what's drawn on the power cards is summoned into reality. This cloud came from the Power Card Storm, which represents a real storm. Besides, as I said, ninjas summon real clouds to alter the weather.

This feat was included within the creation of the verse, so there was no discussion. Unless you want to discuss it now since you seem to disagree.

Most verses don't have such a silly way of portraying the feat. It creates a level of disconnect.

If we wanted to leave it at "likely", rather than solid, I'd sign off on it.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the staff conclusions regarding what we should do here?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

The calcs need slight adjustment (I haven't checked to see if they've been adjusted yet, I can evaluate them when they are) but they are going to be reliable enough for our purposes. Calc Two in the OP is the only one I'd agree literally can't be worked around, the others just require a bit of creativity. As mentioned, I think the lightning dodge one tests our limits of what we'd call "lightning", even if it comes from a (summoned) cloud, and so I've said that should be a "likely" rather than a flat-out value. I've mentioned what changes could be made to make the calcs better prior in the thread, at this point the main thing is the actual process of adjusting them.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks a lot for helping out.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

The calcs need slight adjustment (I haven't checked to see if they've been adjusted yet, I can evaluate them when they are) but they are going to be reliable enough for our purposes. Calc Two in the OP is the only one I'd agree literally can't be worked around, the others just require a bit of creativity. As mentioned, I think the lightning dodge one tests our limits of what we'd call "lightning", even if it comes from a (summoned) cloud, and so I've said that should be a "likely" rather than a flat-out value. I've mentioned what changes could be made to make the calcs better prior in the thread, at this point the main thing is the actual process of adjusting them.

Okay. Thanks a lot for helping out.

No recalculation has been done yet.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

They don't even need to be recalcs, the original blogs can be adjusted. The explosion spike thing just requires a rescaled image, the lightning dodge just requires using a different set of frames for the feat, etc. It's all very minor stuff.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

They don't even need to be recalcs, the original blogs can be adjusted. The explosion spike thing just requires a rescaled image, the lightning dodge just requires using a different set of frames for the feat, etc. It's all very minor stuff.

And who will do that?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Whoever wants to, I suppose.

 

[Antvasima]

Has there been any progress here?