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DanMachi/Sword Oratoria/Familia Chronicle/Heroic Myth Discussion Thread

Sword Oratoria Volume 11

Aiz believes Ottar to be stronger than Revis
“I…can’t lose anymore. No. I don’t want to lose. Not to that person, that creature…If I lose against them, I might lose everything.”
“…”
“That’s why…I want to become stronger.”
But that wasn’t enough of an explanation for someone who did not know about the existence of Knossos or the creature she referred to. It could have been a complete non sequitur.
But there was a tenacity in her voice permeating each word, and that was very real.
“Even Finn and the others couldn’t win against them.”
“…”
“I don’t know anyone stronger than me—stronger than them…except you. That’s why I want to learn from you.”
Chapter 2: The Decisive Battle Intermission

Level 7 Revis is stronger than Base Ottar
“But in pure Status terms…she’s definitely stronger than you as you’re facing me right now.”
“…”
While Aiz thought back to Levis’s strength when they had clashed in Knossos, Ottar’s eyes narrowed. As if she had fanned the flames of his fighting spirit.
One of the most frightening things about the boaz was that he wasn’t fighting at full strength—no use of magic or even any skills. Ottar was simply facing her with only his pure ability. And he was overpowering her with just his physical prowess despite her wind and other deadly techniques. He made free use of his unimaginable battle experience and an overwhelming depth of tactics. More than anything, considering Ottar’s race, she was sure that he still had an ace up his sleeve.
Chapter 3: The True Face of a God

Monster Barca is stronger than Base Tiona but weaker than Gareth
An audible thud echoed through the room. The full force of her charge had been stopped. The herculean strength pressing back against her caused Tiona’s eyes to snap open in surprise, but she was all smiles again.
“Gareth iiiiiiis…even stronger…than thiiiiiis…!”
Chapter 5: Obsession Manifest

Monster Barca's cursed blood can bypass the resistance of even level 6s
“Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh?!” shrieked those in the perimeter who’d been pelted by the black rain.
Their skin turned a revolting jet the instant they made contact with the droplets, and as blood spurted out of their eyes, noses, and mouths, they writhed in agony. Regardless of whether they were members of Loki Familia or Hermes Familia , they collapsed to the ground and rolled around in pain. Moans of broken spirits permeated the room.
It had all happened in the blink of an eye, leaving everyone rigid with shock.
“Poison?! No…it can’t be…A curse?!”
Asfi’s eyes opened wide in disbelief at this indescribable scene. Even those with Status abilities that resisted afflictions suffered the same symptoms. It was indiscriminate. The Loki Familia members were taken aback, then started using the anti-curse medicine on those who were afflicted.
“Gaaaaaaaargh…?!”
“I-it isn’t working?! The anti-curse medicine won’t break them free?!”
They kept coughing up blood, cries piercing through the ears of everyone in the room. Tiona, Tione, and Finn were motionless. Amid, standing by at the back, caught her breath.
It was an extremely powerful curse. The blood splattered the floor, giving off a black smoke. Filling the room with its toxic miasma, the Barca Monster started spraying its black blood again.
Chapter 5: Obsession Manifest

Falna makes an adventurer superhuman
The followers of a late god could not wield their enhanced abilities without first converting to a new deity. The Blessing engraved on her back had fallen silent in accordance with the contract.
Chapter 6: And Then The God Smiled

Finn dices a Viola in 0.8 seconds
As Loki tensed, Finn arrived at a decision faster than light, executing his next actions immediately. He heaved his patron goddess into the air above his head with his right hand, leaving her to Tione above him in one second. And in the next, he used the Fortia Spear in his left hand to disembowel the approaching viola.
As time stood still for everyone else, those two seconds were fateful for Finn. The green flesh closing in from behind roared as the pitiful prum sank into its inescapable range
Chapter 6: And Then The God Smiled

Sword Oratoria Volume 12

Nidhogg lore about it being the most powerful monster to exist outside of the Three Great Quests and how it couldn't be defeated by anybody from ancient times which should include Epimetheus.
Gareth and Riveria looked down at the sketch spread across the desk. Nidhogg was said to be a monster that existed in the Ancient Times. When Lefiya had given him the sketch, Finn had investigated it, but all he could find was that it was speculated to be one of the oldest calamities that had been released by the Dungeon, even before Behemoth, Leviathan, or the Black Dragon, the targets of the Three Great Quests.
But this was all speculation, because detailed literature on it could not be found, so it was just Finn’s conjecture based on the time frame of the background. According to the minimal accounts of Nidhogg, it had apparently been so overwhelmingly powerful that it had thrust the world into the depths of despair. It had been strong enough that the ancient people had no chance of striking it down themselves.
Chapter 1: The Price of Defeat

Nidhogg's possible size shown in the SO manga dwarfing entire islands

Nidhogg's various titles and how it was only said to be defeated by gods and not mortals
“That’s why the information is so fuzzy…Like in this book, it’s not a dragon; it’s a snake. And its name is ‘the world devourer’ or ‘the one who dwells in burning rage."
“‘The world devourer’…”
“When I first heard the name Nidhogg, I didn’t recognize it at all,” Tiona added.
From when Tiona was young, she had always loved reading the epics. If she did not know anything about it at all, Nidhogg must have really been a faceless monster. Aiz started to think back on the faceless mastermind, subconsciously superimposing Enyo over the evil dragon.
“What hero defeated your version of Nidhogg, Tiona?” Aiz asked.
“Ummm, there wasn’t a hero in the story about the world devourer.”
“Then who defeated it?” Tione responded with another question.
“I dunno.”
“Huh?”
“Everything is vague, like ‘it was erased by a great god’ or ‘it was purified by the heavens,’” Tiona responded with a sullen look. “Plus, I don’t know anything about the six maidens…”
Chapter 3: Rabbit Oracle

Demi-Spirit Six Spirit Ring size. I'll probably just make an Imgur of all the info related to calcing Orario's size
Riveria pursed her lips and leaned forward, drawing six circles on the map of Knossos in red ink. One in the north, one in the northeast, one in the southeast, one in the south, one in the southwest, and one in the northwest. They were centered on the large halls on Knossos’s tenth floor where they expected the demi-spirits were being concealed. When she connected the six points, it created a perfect circle, completing the ring.
“…These six chambers—this ring…Just how much of Orario does it cover?” Gareth asked.
“The center of Orario—no, the central area surrounding the Dungeon’s entrance. That would make it a little bigger than Central Park,” Finn responded.
Anakity placed a map of Orario with a similar scale atop the blueprint of Knossos. Just like Finn had said, it overlapped with the area at the center of the city. No one needed further elaboration to understand what the enemy wanted—what Enyo, the city destroyer, was trying to do.
Chapter 3: Rabbit Oracle

Heaven's Gate created by the Six Spirit Ring is a ritual that approaches the power of gods so it's a 5-B ritual that was needed to kill Nidhogg. Also coupled together with how the Primordial Flames (Demi-Arcanum) only spawned Behemoth, Leviathan, and Antares. Its possible that its this Heaven's Gate (Actual Arcanum) is what spawned the Black Dragon which is stronger than the former Three Great Quests. Nidhogg is very likely stronger than Epimetheus and the Three Great Quests since it required actual Arcanum to be defeated since the Six Spirit Ring occurred after the rise and fall of Epimetheus according to Omori, despite Nidhogg having existed before Epimetheus' time.
The ultimate spell. The spirits’ six rings. The extermination ritual that once destroyed the evil dragon.
It had to be the greatest destructive miracle in the mortal realm, one that approached the power of Arcanum.
“This ceremony is known as Heaven’s Gate . Placing the spirits around the massive magic circle and using the spirits themselves as mediums, it summons the power of the heavens, creating a pillar that approaches the power of the gods. A spell that brings death but one that could only be performed once multiple great spirits had already gathered together and joined their power…It’s almost too powerful.”
Chapter 3: Rabbit Oracle

Heaven's Gate damage size as shown in the SO manga

Damage of the Demi-Spirits version of Heaven's Gate
A power close to that of the gods. A special loophole that had been allowed to occur when the mortal realm was being overrun by monsters.
The brain could not comprehend its scale.
“And its destructive power?” Bete followed up.
“Powerful enough to blow away all of Orario and the surrounding area .”
Chapter 3: Rabbit Oracle

Destructive power of the Demi-Spirits version shown in the SO manga. It created a super deep hole and seems to have reached even the mountains which I assume is the Alf's Mountain which is at least 50 kilometers away from Orario. Though it could be even larger than this.

Gods/Goddesses (Deusdeas) potentially exist on a higher plane of existence
They were candid about their reaction to Enyo, but it was tinged with a more general awe at the works of the deusdea, who existed on a higher plane. As everyone stood there around the table, a moment of silence settled over the room.
Chapter 4: Nameless Heroes

Also not sure if this page could be useful or not in determining the destruction of the Demi-Spirit's Heaven's Gate

I'm probably mostly just gonna use the manga from here on out. Reading the novel alongside the manga made me realize that the manga is way more fleshed out compared to the novel for SO12. Scenes in the novel that were like 3-5 pages were extended to a whole chapter in the manga with much more detail.

Base Revis stops Lil Rafaga with one hand. Confirming that Base Revis is in fact stronger than Base Ottar who needed to use full power to cancel out a weaker Aiz's Lil Rafaga

Revis considers Aiz w/ Ariel + Avenger to be on a whole new level (Level 8). Which makes sense as Base Ottar is already at the peak of level 7 and Base Revis is stronger than him. So the only way for Aiz to completely stomp her is to become a level 8.

Crimson Flesh Armor Revis is strong enough that Aiz w/ Ariel + Avenger couldn't pierce her armor

Merged Filvis is even stronger than Revis. But this can only be talking about Base Revis as Omori confirmed Merged Filvis is only a Peak Level 7 in her status sheet instead of a Level 8 which is probably the level Crimson Flesh Armor Revis reached with her being on par with Tempest-Avenger Aiz.
Because it would break into pieces if wielded by the unified form of Filvis and Ein, whose presumed potential reached the upper limits of Level 7, she had not retrieved it, marking a break with her past.
Filvis Challia Status Sheet

Demi-Spirits are all unharmed by getting hit by their own magic

The Six Demi-Spirits in Knossos are all weaker than the Titan Alm Demi-Spirit from Floor 59
The spirit altar was more militant than imaginable. To the first-tier adventurers of Loki Familia and Tsubaki, they estimated the six pillars’ abilities to be lower than those of the demi-spirit in the unexplored territory of the fifty-ninth floor, but they also noticed the labyrinth itself that made up the altar provided an effectively inexhaustible supply of magic. Like the passages covered in green flesh, the pillars had a regenerative ability to recover if they were wounded. Even though most of the magic power was being used for the spell to destroy the city, the spirits’ vitality was extraordinary, and to top it off, they even had a petal armor protecting their bodies. The spirit’s actual body was protected from a knockout blow.
Chapter 6: The Divine Providence of Despair

Base Ottar blew away the Demi-Spirit altar's magic with a single slash

Base Ottar is far superior to Gareth

The Demi-Spirits were weakened by Fels by the time the second wave of adventurers joined in

When the Gulliver Brothers work together their strength is multiplicative and not additive

Allen is the fastest in Orario

Even after being weakened the Six Demi Spirits still has the power to destroy Orario with their main body which is incomparably stronger than the spirit altars

Mikoto's Futsu no Mitama can bend light. And narration said this after she bended the Demi-Spirit's Light Burst which means the Demi-Spirits' Light Burst is a lightspeed magic like Firebolt.

Welf's Unbreakable Crozzo Magic Sword, Shikou Kazuki, can scare the Demi-Spirits with its power

Level 4 Bell's strength is directly compared to that of a level 5

Merged Filvis is considered to be the biggest threat when compared to the Demi-Spirits

Merged Filvis' ultra short chant spell, Dio Thrysos is on par with if not superior to the Titan Alm Demi-Spirit from Floor 59. Filvis has the Mage DA and has shown multiple times to output magic strong enough to hurt level 4s as a level 3. Which means with her magic Merged Filvis should have the output of a level 8. This in turn means the Titan Alm Demi-Spirit from Floor 59 was also more likely outputting level 8 magic when she destroyed Floor 59.

Merged Filvis is considered to be the strongest of all monsters by narration with her magic. So Merged Filvis should be a level 7 physically, and level 8 w/ magic, with her magic likely being superior to even Crimson Flesh Armor Revis.

A theoretical example of how big the explosion of the Demi-Spirit's Heaven's Gate would've looked like is shown again

Nidhogg Demi-Spirit possesses the combined magic power of the other six Demi-Spirits

Nidhogg Demi-Spirit is weaker than the Six Spirit Ring but it still has the power to destroy all of Orario from 11 floors deep in Knossos. Edit: Forgot to mention but latest volume confirmed that it was only going to destroy the upper floors of Knossos and says that it won’t destroy Orario. So this feat sadly isn’t a destroy Orario from deep within Knossos feat.

The Corrupted Demi-Spirits are stronger than they were before

Crimson Flesh Armor Revis is weaker than Tempest-Avenger Aiz

The green flesh controlled by the Demi-Spirits is mass several times the aggregated size of Orario

Also a great view of majority of Orario in the SO manga. Not sure if its better to use this image or the actual map of Orario we got from Astrea Record though.

Asfi, Ryu, & Aisha's teamwork combined with the various weapons and items allowed them to fight beyond a level 5 category (Meaning they probably reached level 6 in this fight)

Asfi, Ryu, Aisha, & Lefiya teaming up multiplied their power manyfold

Base Ottar defeated a Corrupted Demi-Spirit all alone

Riveria defeated a Corrupted Demi-Spirit with Rea Laeveteinn

Gareth dealt the finishing blow on a Corrupted Demi-Spirit

Tione, Tiona, Argana, & Bache together with all of their skills activated managed to defeat a Corrupted Demi-Spirit

Asterius managed to defeat a Corrupted Demi-Spirit himself

Allen also managed to defeat a Corrupted Demi-Spirit with his magic Gralineze Fromel

Bell defeats the Nidhogg Demi-Spirit with his Grand Bell Argonaut at max charge

Man I started this reread way too early. The SO manga still hasn't finished SO12. It probably won't finish until like another 4-6 chapters from the looks of it. Back to the novel I guess.

White Wind Ariel Aiz managed to one shot Crimson Flesh Armor Revis something Tempest-Avenger Aiz couldn't do
“—What?!”
Her chest was ripped open. There was a track of a single slash running diagonally across her chest. The white flash had cut through the armor of flesh and reached her magic stone, splitting that vibrant, gleaming mass in two.
“Impossible?!”
As she looked down at her chest, her right hand instinctively reached up to cover the wound, but it turned to ash. That was the fate of all monsters whose cores had been destroyed. The corrupted sword slipping from her hand and clattering to the floor caused the creature’s eyes to fly open in shock.
Chapter 8: A Heroes' Chorus

And that's it for SO12 unless the SO manga adds any new info or feats

Also here's the Imgur I made of the info we have that can be used to calc the size of Orario
 
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DanMachi Volume 15

Nothing here as its just a side story esque volume about the past and their current growth

DanMachi Volume 16

Albert is considered to be the strongest hero due to being the one to take the eye of the Black Dragon
Albert the Great’s feat was synonymous with the end of the ancient era. His death marked the beginning of the age of deities. His legend is indestructible, spoken of in the final chapter of the Dungeon Oratoria.
His achievement was driving back the Black Dragon.
The pitch-black calamity birthed from the great pit had seemed intent on destroying every person—every last thing in the land. And, fighting alone, Albert drove it away—at the cost of his life. After he stole an eye from the King of Dragons with his sword, the now one-eyed dragon gave a piercing screech that rocked the world as it flew off to the lands far to the north. Whether in honor of what he had accomplished, or perhaps sensing danger to itself—though the true reason hardly matters now—the embodiment of destruction had left Orario behind.
And shortly after the Black Dragon was gone, the first of the deities descended to the mortal realm, raising the curtain on the age of the deities that was still ongoing.
In other words, Albert had brought the ancient era to an end, advancing the fate of the mortal realm to a new stage. And because of that, he’s recognized by everyone as the strongest hero. And yet…
Chapter 5: The Proof Of ()

Gulliver brothers together is equivalent to a level 6
The Gulliver brothers. Despite being only Level 5, many considered them collectively to be the equals of any Level 6 adventurer. The secret of their strength was their ability to act in unison without words or even glances —an instantaneous four-pronged attack. Their unparalleled coordination was hailed as the greatest teamwork in the city.
Chapter 5: The Proof Of ()

Horn, a level 2, survived being slammed through a pillar and into a wall with the force of a river breaking a dam.
As the girl in the form of Syr sensed that, the next instant, she was struck in the head with a spear shaft.
She was sent flying. The blow took her through a pillar and slammed her into the far wall with the force of a river breaking free from a dam.
Chapter 5: The Proof Of ()

DanMachi Volume 17

Horn when transforming into Freya can't use Arcanum
Even if it was theoretically possible within the bounds of magic, and even if the person in question couldn’t access arcanum, for any mortal to be able to transform into a deity for any period of time was…
Chapter 1: The Opening of Hostilities

Freya Familia level 4s could've beaten Bell who had a status equivalent to level 5s because they are far more skilled than Bell if it weren't for Firebolt
If I had fought a series of one-on-ones, with only half a year of experience, I would’ve easily lost against their greater experience and breadth of techniques. But this was a battle royal. In an endless battle where you have to face another opponent the moment you beat your first, there’s no such thing as friend or foe. Surviving means dealing with attacks that come from every angle and anticipating all sorts of surprise attacks. And in that wild scramble, I had a bigger advantage than anyone with my instantaneous combat power.
Chapter 3: The Field of Battle

Horn can use Freya's authority as a goddess of beauty to charm others when she transforms into her
“Yes…however, that confirms it. Goddess Freya has seized the whole city with her charm, and she is casting instructions of some sort on all who come in from outside the city!” Escaping that same fate by her quick judgment, Lyu stared in the direction of the city.
She was convinced now that all of Orario had been transformed into a sandbox ruled over by Freya’s will.
—And she had no way of realizing that the being she had seen was merely someone who had taken Freya’s appearance.
Chapter 4: Those Left Behind
 
Episode Ryuu 2

Cecille a level 2 can shatter boulders
Cecille was not lying about being Level 2. She had left a visible mark in the ground where she had anchored her stance, and the attack she unleashed could have shattered a boulder. Her movements were passable, too. Lyu had no way of knowing how she had managed to level up out here, but she certainly had what it took to at least reach the fourteenth floor in the Dungeon.
The Locus of Stars

DanMachi Volume 18

Freya's charm is more potent than other goddesses of beauty who are already capable of charming gods
When I was in the heavens, I was somewhat restricted.
A goddess of beauty is special even among gods and goddesses.
Our power is both a sweet nectar and a deadly poison.
A charm that entrances even deities is absolute, capable of twisting even divine truth. Other deities, especially chief gods, both feared and desired goddesses of beauty. It wasn’t uncommon to hear of gods who tried to bring a goddess of beauty to heel only to become puppets themselves.
Because of that, there were only two options.
Either completely destroy us or pamper us like princesses.
Most opted for the latter. As a safety precaution, a virgin goddess might also be kept around. These arrangements were made to make sure the goddesses of beauty behaved, like when Artemis was paired with Aphrodite. There came to be an unspoken understanding that the guardians of the realm could use their powers without limitation if it would prevent aggression and domination in the heavens.
So I was restricted by having a guard watching over me—would be the logical assumption.
But my charm could even break the defenses of virginal goddesses.
I was special even among goddesses of beauty.
Regardless of what I wanted, I became worshipped and feared. Chances were the only deities in all of the heavens who could truly resist my power were the three great vestal goddesses of Olympus.
Double Role II

Takemizakuchi can take on second tier adventurers and even a level 5 with his skills
“Using divine authority is banned, and Freya’s charm is obviously out, too, but…”
“…Where does that put Take?”
When Lord Takemikazuchi asks his question, Lady Hephaistos didn’t have an answer, and it seems like Lady Hestia doesn’t, either.
All of the deities preside over something…and in Lord Takemikazuchi’s case, it’s war and martial arts. It could be argued that him resisting would be an extension of those things, so it isn’t really clear whether it should be forbidden, and if it is, how much…Basically, it’s a blurry line.
“…Just for argument’s sake, if you were up against Freya’s kids, how many could you fight?”
“Against second-tier adventurers, I could handle twenty of them. And against a first-tier adventurer, I should be able to take at least one.”
“““Then go out and fight on the front lines.””” Hearing his calm answer to Lady Hestia’s question, Lord Modi and the other male gods all grumbled together.
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Riveria is superior to Hedin in terms of firepower and versatility but inferior in close combat and long distance battle
“Hildsleif Hedin Selrand…the range of his magic is the greatest of anyone in Orario.”
“Eh?! But, but, you’re stronger, aren’t you, Riveria?! You’re called the city’s strongest mage, right?!”
“Depending on what exactly you mean by that, the answer changes. Taken to an extreme, if it comes down to super-long-distance spell slinging or hand-tohand combat, I would lose to Hedin.”
Tiona resolutely tried to argue against Riveria’s cold analysis, but the high elf fixed her hair as she calmly answered.
Nine Hell Riveria Ljos Alf was superior in raw power and in the number of options she could call upon for offense, defense, and support. In terms of the standard back line mage role, her power and abilities far outstripped anyone else.
But Hedin was a magic swordsman who had also mastered close-range combat.
Their fields of expertise were too different to really compare.
He was an expert in melee and faster spells using super-short casts. He was the optimal build for an advance support class. But on top of that, as demonstrated so powerfully in this war game, he also had absurd firepower and range.
“He once defeated a massive army using only magic.”
Whether it was true or not, rumors about him to that effect had spread from the sand sea. If there was a single way to describe him, it would be an artillery swordsman.
“But more than anything else, the total amount of his Mind…Hedin’s ability to sustain his magic is demonstrably greater than my own.”
Riveria acknowledged that when it came to total amount of Mind with which to use magic, she lost out to him.
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Welf's Shikou Kazuki cannot be broken by even a peak level 6 like Allen
…It isn’t breaking…
Meanwhile, Allen looked quizzically at the scene.
No matter how many times it wavered from his thrusts, Welf’s magic sword didn’t break. An ordinary magic sword was fundamentally a consumable item. In its endurance, it was an eloquent expression of its maker’s persistence.
Allen’s sharp gaze shifted, acknowledging the bump in the road to be a real, if minor, obstruction.
“What is that magic sword?”
“…Just a little something…that I made…!”
Welf didn’t boast at Allen’s question. He called the blade he had forged with his pride as a blacksmith just a stepping stone to greater heights.
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Van could sometimes beat Level 4 Bell who already had stats equivalent to a level 5
A level-up is truly cruel.
The Level 4 Mr. Van who I fought so many times during the baptism, who I sometimes defeated and sometimes lost to…now seems so painfully slow.
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Level 5 Bell (Who's status is closer to that of a new level 6) using a Max Charge (5 Minute) Argo Vesta tied with Base Ottar's Hildis Vini.
As if trying to push me back with his voice alone, he unleashes his impossibly superhuman strength.
His golden slash crashes into my sacred fire.
And—
“——————————————gh?!”
There’s a tremendous impact, a flash of light, and then a thunderous boom.
The contest lasts for only an instant.
The blazing sacred flame looks like it’s being pushed back by the golden light, but at almost the exact same time, both swords reach their limit and completely shatter, blowing Mr. Ottar and me away from each other.
“Gah?!”
I’m launched through the massive arena and slam directly into the marble wall like I was carried there by a river bursting its dam. The impact shatters the wall and steals all the air from my lungs as the giant amphitheater shudders. Cracks run through the remaining walls and the spectator seating, kicking up a cloud of dust.
I’m sure I’m imagining things, but I could swear the entire island just went silent.
It’s like our attacks clashing made the adventurers and einherjar stop their fights and catch their breath.
“Geha, gaha…aaaaaa…?!
What little remains of the greatsword’s hilt slips from my hand as I writhe from the aftermath. As my hands spasm, I look up, breathing raggedly, half praying.
Through the clearing smoke…I see a shadow appear.
“…So it’s a draw…”
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Base Ottar casually reacts to and slaps away Firebolt
“—Fire…bolt!!!”
Electric flames burst forth. A quick strike magic. As the crimson lightning spear approached him, Ottar didn’t evade it.
SLAP.
He didn’t even use his sword. He just swatted it with his right hand, as if batting away an insect. That was all. Just that was enough to scatter the boy’s magic.
Chapter 8: The Great Familia War

Hegni has higher strength than Level 6 Base Ryuu
Her quiet resolve summoned a gale. Before Hegni could fully recover from the shock, Lyu went on the attack. Her golden ponytail danced as she unleashed a series of attacks. Much like Hegni’s longsword, whose reach could extend, her wooden sword was flooded with her magic power, imbued with her Mind Load skill, wielding a destructive power that was shocking for an elf.
In pure numbers, Hegni’s strength should have been higher, but each and every one of his slashes was knocked away, sending a tremor into his dark hands each time.
Chapter 9: Flower Language For You

Ryuu's Astrea Record can block attacks from the Einherjars with magic sword but cannot defend attacks from a Peak level 6 like Hegni
The einherjar’s eyes widened, and then they swiftly leaped into action. Arrows and the blasts of magic swords were unleashed from all sides—but they were all blocked by the starlight gleam.
“What?!”
The einherjar, Hegni, and Heith were all dumbstruck.
The field of light that extended a five-meder radius around Lyu blocked the rain of arrows and blasts of magic. The countless glowing hieroglyphs floating in the air like bits of stardust shrouded Lyu, forming a wall to protect her.
“A barrier?! No, a sanctuary?!”
There was no other way to describe it.
While Hegni’s eyes widened, the elf’s chant accelerated.
“Bastion of order, crown of the honest, evil-crushing torch.”
Faced with a sanctuary that could defeat all attacks and with a psalm of the stars echoing in their ears, the einherjar impatiently charged. They attacked directly with swords, spears, and axes, trying to cut and push through the hieroglyphs of light, but it was meaningless. Not only could slashes and thrusts not pierce the barrier, they were actually pushed back.
“In the goddess’s name, charging through space, bind the star traces to this land.”
“Gh…Ooooooooh!”
Finally, Hegni became a black arrow. Casting aside the resignation and pity he had felt moments ago, he swung his black blade to tear through the star’s protection. There was a massive spark, and for the first time, the sanctuary shuddered. Hegni’s eyes flared, and he roared as the light’s sparkle tried to push him back.
“Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!"
There was a shrill crack, like glass shattering, and he was through. The star’s protection failed against the full strength of a Level 6, and Hegni closed the distance, swinging his sword at Lyu standing in the middle.
Chapter 9: Flower Language For You

Hegni can cancel out Astrea Record Ryuu's Luminous Wind with his own magic
“You’ve done it now…!”
The only one who managed to escape the brutal storm of light was Hegni.
He had used his own super-short cast magic to cancel out the missiles of light and, unlike everyone else, had managed to evade the danger. He quickly looked around the surroundings.
Chapter 9: Flower Language For You

Ryuu with Alize's flame enchantment is comparable to Hegni and made him wary of her power
Hegni hammered all of his pride in his own sword at the impertinent elf trying to defeat him. Trading slashes with Lyu’s flaming sword, he unleashed a twisting cut that broke his opponent’s immediately raised gauntlet. Sparks flew, but even so, Hegni didn’t take a direct hit from the explosive slash. The enchant that had such absurd firepower was a threat. But he already had a grasp on the flames’ area of effect and how hard they hit when he traded blows with her while she was concurrent casting.
He saw clearly that Lyu’s fighting style had a hole in it.
“Clad yourself in your friend’s flame all you like, but my warrior-slaying blade will not be extinguished!”
Anyone who tried to make such a massive firepower explode at extreme close range would always be exposed to the danger of being pushed to selfdestruction. Lyu couldn’t control the output of the flames nearly as precisely as Scarlet Harnell had.
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Hegni is stronger than Ryuu even with the flame enchantment but due to using his cursed weapon too many times before he is now weaker than her
But even so, Hegni’s combat ability and experience couldn’t be overcome with just that alone. A first-tier adventurer of Freya Familia and a first-tier adventurer of any other familia were different.
Their polished and honed techniques and tricks, their resolve that overcame the fear of death, and their loyalty to their goddess made them into warriors worthy of being called supermen. That was what it meant to overcome the baptism, to win out in the familia’s internal war, to rise to the summit of the einherjar.
Even if Alize and the followers of justice lent Lyu their strength, there was no way that Hegni would lose after summoning the strongest version of himself with Dáinsleif.
—That was how it should have been.
“…Gh?”
He boldly advanced, pressing the attack. Forcing wounds to the enemy’s forehead and arm.
But Hegni was being pushed back.
“Fuuu!”
Lyu’s slash kept catching his black blade.
The petals of rampaging flame.
Gradually, with certainty, they were threatening him.
What…?!
The enemy’s movements were speeding up…no. Hegni’s reactions were slowing down.
His body was losing its ability to keep up with the movements he envisioned.
“—This is a war game.”
Her sky-blue eyes saw it.
As Hegni wavered at the change in his body, Lyu stepped in herself and said it.
“Comrade, how many adventurers did that sword cut before you fought me?”
The moment those words hit his ear, a tremendous shock ran the full length of his body.
It can’t…?!
His fingers holding the curse sword trembled. The cloud of dust was gradually fading. The curtain was rising. Hegni endured Lyu’s furious attack while his eyes ran around the surroundings. Not to the fallen einherjar. Not to Heith and the other healers dealing with the wounded.
To the tactician Daphne covered in wounds, still sleeping in Cassandra’s arms.
Her! Her plan is…!
“Curse weapons demand a price in exchange for the great strength they grant.”
“Gh?!”
“In most cases, it is a lowered status, or a stamina cost!”
As Lyu correctly asserted, Hegni’s Victim Abyss was a curse weapon. In exchange for the murderous ability to extend its slash range, it absorbed its user’s stamina. And just like the wounds made by its blade, that damage was a curse that couldn’t be immediately and fully healed by potions or magic.
Hegni had subconsciously been using his curse weapon too much. Against the coalition, an opponent like no other: an army of upper-class adventurers.
Against the rabble that had so recklessly challenged him!
“The people who fought you before me have whittled away at your strength!”
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Heith's auto heal allows her to instantly regenerate from broken limbs and burns even as she's being assaulted by level 7 magic
“As if!”
Struck by successive blows, her body was scorched and blasted, at times her limbs were barely hanging on, but the golden crest on her skin quickly undid all of the damage.
“Ars Gullveig! Even if you are a first-tier adventurer, you can’t finish me off! I am Heith Velvet—the witch Lady Freya bestowed with gold!”
A golden glow emanated from her as she continued healing with a bottomless regeneration. The auto-heal that even Crozzo’s magic swords couldn’t break. Despite being a Level 4’s magic, it still endured Hedin’s Caurus Hildr. It was truly an absurd ability.
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Mia is capable of trading blows with Base Ottar but is still weaker than him
For the first time, many adventurers discovered that the strikes of weapons that were far too powerful, far too heavy, could eclipse even thunder itself when strung together in succession.
“Whoa…”
The repeated clashes between the black greatsword and the steel shovel were just that.
Watching from where he had fallen in the spectator seats, the half-prum Van watched in awe as the destructive crashes seemed like explosions.
He had just woken up, and the furious battle left him speechless.
“Urrrrrrrrryaaaaaaa!”
“Nrgh!”
Bell and Lyu were just as speechless.
And even as they froze like statues, Mia renewed the assault. The attack from high above was met straight on by Ottar’s black greatsword. He himself was unwounded, but the stage itself couldn’t endure it. His thick legs broke the stone pavement, sinking as the amphitheater creaked. Swinging the sword aside, Mia was knocked back, and her massive body landed, shattering a marble column lying across the ground. There was an instant of stillness as the dust rose, but she immediately charged at Ottar again.
Destruction and annihilation collided. An absurd shock wave consumed their surroundings. The first thing destroyed by the fierce battle wasn’t either combatant, but their surroundings.
“Tch!”
As if lashing out because she couldn’t break his greatsword’s defenses, Mia resorted to her fist instead of the shovel. An uppercut with her free hand. Ottar defended it with one arm and leaped backward. In the brief lull, the already halfwrecked amphitheater breathed a sigh of relief, and one of the pillars on the outer edge fell.
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Level 3 Mikoto w/ Zekka can one shot a doubled nerfed level 5
Entrusted with the finishing blow, Mikoto responded with her full strength.
“Zekka!”
“Gaaaaaah?!”
The slash erupted, running through Berling. The quick-draw taught directly by the war god dealt a critical blow to the first-tier adventurer whose status had been lowered to the limit. There was a thud as the prum collapsed. And also a thud as Nahza collapsed from losing her prosthetic and the aftereffect of her magic.
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Just one nerf weakened a peak level 5 down to the point where a pseudo level 5 can defeat them
“—My famished blade is Hippolyta.”
Aisha pushed her chant through to the end, her body covered in scratches from his spear’s tenacious resistance.
“Hell Kaios!!!”
“Ghhh?!”
A vertical slash swung down from high above. He immediately readied his spear horizontally to defend. There was a cross formed as he caught the sword with his spear’s haft. But that was the end of it.
A crimson wave erupted from her blade.
“DgggghaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa?!”
A magic blade far bigger than his body hit him directly, sealing Alfrik’s fate. His spear split in half, and he slammed straight into the wall of the mausoleum.
“—We did it, shrimp!”
Aisha roared in victory as the last of the Bringar fell.
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Base Ottar repeatedly reacts to and blocks Firebolt
“Firebolt!”
He batted aside the fairy’s star blade and the rabbit’s flame lightning with one arm. They unleashed a continuing stream of attacks, but Ottar intercepted and repulsed each and every one.
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Mia is the only person there (Between Bell, Ryuu, and Mia) who was capable of fighting on par with Base Ottar thus making Mia stronger than Ryuu with her magic which is level 7 tier due to gaining the DA Mage
This rotten brat…! How much did he keep training himself after that!
Mia, the only one who had the right to actually fight with Warlord, guessed it.
The truth of just how much more time Ottar had spent training and how much more intense it had become after she had retired.
“Ghhhhhhhh?!”
Because of that, they were doomed to struggle against impossibly bad odds.
Mia’s attacks were deflected, and the damage she took from his counterattacks quickly added up. The only reason they were somehow managing to make a fight of it was thanks to Mia.
She was the overwhelming vanguard who could go toe-to-toe with Ottar and trade blows, but if she fell, then they would immediately lose. Lyu’s and Bell’s fighting styles were focused on agility. They specialized in high speed maneuvers, so they couldn’t match Ottar blow for blow when he was specialized in pure strength and defense. No matter how good their hit-and-away tactics, no matter how much they tried to disrupt his flow, if none of their attacks made it through his defense, they had no hope of winning.
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Hedin was able to divert Ottar's attack with his magic
“Valiant Hildr!”
An enormous bolt of lightning shot down. Not a barrage, but a single, concentrated blast.
The massive bolt big enough to consume even a floor boss rushed from the east, crashing straight into the side of the slash. There were sparks before their eyes, and the next instant, the golden light’s path nudged from northeast to northwest. The buildings and ruins to the northwest were obliterated.
Meanwhile, having narrowly escaped death, they spun to look in the direction of the spell.
“How much Mind do I have to spend just to shift the angle, you lump of irrationality?”
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Ryuu using Kaguya's Gokou can hurt Base Ottar
“Gokou!”
The sword flashed like it had been drawn in an instant, giving birth to five slashes.
“Gh?!”
The five separate attacks moved as one, coming from all angles. A downward slash from overhead, upward slashes from left and right, from the back a diagonal slash down from the shoulder, and from the front a horizontal slash. The five flashes were like five different slashes unleashed from all angles and directions, closing in on Ottar.
“Ghhhhh?!”
Gojouno Kaguya’s Gokou. It was a magic that merely created a magic slash in the positions she set, but she had combined it with her draw to turn it into an unblockable, inescapable sure-kill attack.
Even caught off guard, he would absolutely defend. He could even withstand Alize’s Alveria. Because she knew that, Lyu had chosen this Gokou attack. As expected, the strongest managed to block the horizontal slash from the front with his gauntlet, but he was caught by the remaining four lights.
The magic blades destroyed his chest piece, his gauntlets, his headpiece, the few bits of armor that Warlord wore. Blood erupted from the warrior as crimson particles of magic danced like a petal storm.
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Bete's Transformation is on par with Ottar's Transformation which is in turn stated by narration to be comparable to Haruhime's level boost
“And you can’t compare the effect here to any old nobody. That boar’s transformation isn’t some enhancement…He’s a goddamn monster.”
As he was acknowledging Ottar’s transformation wasn’t any weaker than his own, the tattoo on his left cheek twisted.
The beast in the mirror was clearly distinct from the warrior who had been fighting before. It almost resembled the scene brought on by Haruhime’s Level Boost. While most of the residents in the city were falling into a panic, adventurers in the tavern murmured, turning deathly pale.
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Allen is stronger than Hedin
“Hedin said the same thing…Do you remember? When you were made the new second-in-command? When Hedin stepped aside, yielding that position to you.”
It had happened several years ago.
That was back when Ahnya was still in Folkvangr.
When Hedin had been recommended to become second-in-command, he had refused, pushing it on Allen.
“Hedin understood that you were stronger than him then…That was why he yielded it to you. His pride wouldn’t allow him to stand at the top if he was weaker.”
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Allen's Magic info
Glarinese Fromel.
Allen’s one and only magic massively buffed his agility and granted improved strength relative to his speed. In other words, the more he accelerated, the more his destructive power increased. There was no upper limit. Theoretically, Allen could increase the force of his charge as much as he could accelerate.
Clad in an armor of light, Allen could run down and trample anything with that spell.
A chariot’s rampage that could even run down a monster rex.
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Ottar's Vana Arganture is almost as big of a boost as a level up
One of Ottar’s skills, Vana Arganture.
As Bete guessed, it was an active trigger skill connected to his beast transformation. It granted a strength almost as great as a level-up, affecting his base abilities and his skills. However, it had downsides. A massive amount of stamina and Mind had to be paid every time he activated it. And to maintain his transformation, his body experienced an exhaustion that ate away at his strength so much that even his auto-heal skill couldn’t fully make up for it. That was the difference between Ottar and werewolves who could transform without risk so long as the full moon requirement was met.
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Hedin's Laurus Hildr enchantment is comparable to Aiz's Ariel which is stated to be equivalent to a level boost and thanks to this double level boost and updating his status, Bell is now strong enough to harm Transformed Ottar a level 8
Even though Ottar defended perfectly, the electric charge in those slashes passed through his sword and coursed through his body. No one in Freya Familia other than Freya herself knew Hedin’s final magic. In addition to that speed, its special traits were an absurd force and penetrating capability.
In Hedin’s own words, the requirement that he expend every bit of his Mind to activate it was the worst possible condition, but with his having paid that price, it boasted a power even greater than standard enchantments, granting its target a massive boon.
The lightning armor optimized for attack and speed didn’t pale even in comparison to Aiz’s Airiel.
And more than anything, every time its attacks fell upon a defense, damage still racked up, making it the best possible counter for Ottar’s absolute defense.
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Mia despite being one level lower than Ottar is capable of injuring him with her barehands. Mia's clearly similar to Gareth with her always being able to hit one level above her actual level.
The steel shovel slammed into his right side. The boaz’s massive body left the ground, floating upward. He coughed up blood, his bestial eyes unfocused. At almost the same moment, the shovel that slammed into his forged body broke at the base. Mia immediately dropped it. Then she rained down a furious salvo of punches.
“Not yeeeeeeeet!!!”
“~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?!”
Her fists pummeled Ottar’s face, chest, shoulders, stomach.
The one and only person on the island who could hurt Ottar with bare fists began a one-sided onslaught
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Allen is even faster than a double level boosted Bell who's speed was equivalent to a level 8
The hopes of two familias had been entrusted to exactly two people, and now their feet were pounding against the racetrack of a shattered brick road.
The cat’s supreme acceleration was quickly turning hope into despair as he rapidly gained on the rabbit.
“Stop! Stoppppp!!!”
“Run!!!”
"Do something! Rabbit Foot!!!”
Outside the island, at Dian Cecht Familia’s first-aid base, Mord, Gyle, Bors, and many other wounded had regained consciousness thanks to Amid and the other healer’s hard work. Now all their patients were screaming wildly at the divine mirror, and many promptly collapsed as the blood rushed to their heads.
But Bell had no way to know that shouts and screams filled the air as he ran.
He was putting every last bit of energy into his legs, to the extent he couldn’t process any external information.
So fast! He’s right behind me! And catching up!
Allen had originally been heading northwest, toward Ottar, but along the way, his enhanced, first-tier adventurer eyesight helped him catch Bell heading to the house of the gods, and so he wheeled around and changed course. The worst news for Bell was that Allen was now freed from Ahnya’s debuff since she had been knocked out.
A hunter who could be sensed but not seen exerted an enormous pressure on the runner, gradually driving them into a wall.
Bell pumped his arms as hard as he could. He was moving so fast that bits of the ground were coming loose with every step. But even then, he couldn’t escape the sound of the wheels. Those wheels were not whittling down the distance between them—they were mercilessly shredding what little remained.
I can sense it…He’s getting closer!
Bell Cranell’s greatest weapon was his speed.
This was the first time he had ever been chased by someone even faster than he was, and that gave birth to a new fear.
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After DA Escape kicked in Bell finally surpassed Allen in speed
A flash of speed. A roaring sprint that tore through the wind. Red eyes looking straight ahead, leaving behind even their own gleam as he accelerated again.
In that moment, Bell’s top speed surpassed Allen’s speed limit. The city’s fastest was left in the dust by the fastest in the mortal realm.
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Allen w/ Glarinese Fromel can surpass Bell's double level boost + Escape boosted speed
“Golden wheel, silver collar!”
Cursing himself for having to give that stupid order, Allen threw away any semblance of pride.
Even if he lost the battle, to win the war, wading through a sea of humiliation, he started casting.
Glarinese Fromel—the fastest magic, which would allow him to ascend and become a true chariot. If he activated it, he could run even Bell down.
“Run bearing the goddess’s will!”
He was already less than fifty meders away from the house of the gods, but it would be enough.
Lowering his speed to cast, he still was prepared to burst through in one shot —
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been out for a while, some points I wanted to make based of the recent points made:

Regarding Finn, is the lightspeed statement only in the english version or is it also in the japanese version? if it’s only in english, can you send the text on what it says in japanese? also I believe that the 0.8 time frame refers to the time Finn took to reach anything to jump from since he was free falling and couldn’t move otherwise

nidhogg’s size I actually believe that’s just perspective, I’m not sure he’s that big

black dragon point is a cool fan theory lol

the demi spirit lightspeed attack I actually disagree due to not really following how light should really behave, it’s called light yes but the problem is that according to vs wiki rules for light dodging attacks, light can’t be physically interacted by normal humans unless refraction is used, and in this same volume we have the gulliver brother Grer deflecting one of the demi spirits light attacks with his weapon, so it just wouldn’t make sense to be an actual beam of light

btw should we just say level 4 Bell with max output should scale to the nidhogg demi spirit? it did one shot the monster so I think it’s fair (also do we know if said monster is just as strong as the original one?)

finally with Orario’s size, I generally prefer to use Orario’s size info from just a single source since so many adaptations will do random sizes with the only thing consistent is that it’s a circle, SO manga does give the most amount of info to use so it might be worth sticking to that panel with Finn you linked previously, but if you believe the Astrea record map is also useful then sure we can just use both and judge what size we can find out of it for both afterwards

Another thing, there is this one short story called the hero and the prostitute that does state that Orario’s size is comparable ‘two or three small kingdom capitals”. Now granted this is from the fan wiki so we would need the actual story but maybe this can also be a source to calc it? we use medieval capitals from the real world for reference and try to base Orario’s size from that
 
been out for a while, some points I wanted to make based of the recent points made:

Regarding Finn, is the lightspeed statement only in the english version or is it also in the japanese version? if it’s only in english, can you send the text on what it says in japanese? also I believe that the 0.8 time frame refers to the time Finn took to reach anything to jump from since he was free falling and couldn’t move otherwise

nidhogg’s size I actually believe that’s just perspective, I’m not sure he’s that big

black dragon point is a cool fan theory lol

the demi spirit lightspeed attack I actually disagree due to not really following how light should really behave, it’s called light yes but the problem is that according to vs wiki rules for light dodging attacks, light can’t be physically interacted by normal humans unless refraction is used, and in this same volume we have the gulliver brother Grer deflecting one of the demi spirits light attacks with his weapon, so it just wouldn’t make sense to be an actual beam of light

btw should we just say level 4 Bell with max output should scale to the nidhogg demi spirit? it did one shot the monster so I think it’s fair (also do we know if said monster is just as strong as the original one?)

finally with Orario’s size, I generally prefer to use Orario’s size info from just a single source since so many adaptations will do random sizes with the only thing consistent is that it’s a circle, SO manga does give the most amount of info to use so it might be worth sticking to that panel with Finn you linked previously, but if you believe the Astrea record map is also useful then sure we can just use both and judge what size we can find out of it for both afterwards

Another thing, there is this one short story called the hero and the prostitute that does state that Orario’s size is comparable ‘two or three small kingdom capitals”. Now granted this is from the fan wiki so we would need the actual story but maybe this can also be a source to calc it? we use medieval capitals from the real world for reference and try to base Orario’s size from that
Don’t see Finn’s statement anywhere in the novels. You sure that statement exist? Only thing I recall is the not even 2 second statement which the manga shows Finn doing in 1.8 seconds total which is indeed less than 2 seconds.

Yeah the Nidhogg thing is probably just perspective. The other panel only shows it dwarfing a forest. The Black Dragon is spawned from Nidhogg’s death theory has been around for a while.

Well that sucks. Guess the best feats we got are level 5s dodging Firebolt.

Bell’s profile format should be

Tier whatever, up to highest tier he scales to w/ Argonaut, even higher w/ Grand Bell Argonaut

I prefer to use the map as that’s an actual official map of the entire Orario. While the manga only has a portion of it shown at a different angle. Also the game is canon so the map is 100% canon. So personally I say we just use that and the description we have of the Spirit Ring. That’s much easier to scale than using the manga Orario size that’s incomplete and from a different angle which also might or might not be accurate.

That’s from Hero and the Prostitute from the Season 2 Blu-Ray which was later compiled into Orario Stories. I’ll read Orario Stories tomorrow alongside the other two volumes of MS and SO as there are Chinese translations for that.

Also I should be all caught up to the series in two more days. Once I’m done we should probably go over the possible calcs that the various levels can scale to and how to tackle the order of magnitude statement.
 
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Don’t see Finn’s statement anywhere in the novels. You sure that statement exist? Only thing I recall is the not even 2 second statement which the manga shows Finn doing in 1.8 seconds total which is indeed less than 2 seconds.

Yeah the Nidhogg thing is probably just perspective. The other panel only shows it dwarfing a forest. The Black Dragon is spawned from Nidhogg’s death theory has been around for a while.

Well that sucks. Guess the best feats we got are level 5s dodging Firebolt.

Bell’s profile format should be

Tier whatever, up to highest tier he scales to w/ Argonaut, even higher w/ Grand Bell Argonaut

I prefer to use the map as that’s an actual official map of the entire Orario. While the manga only has a portion of it shown at a different angle. Also the game is canon so the map is 100% canon. So personally I say we just use that and the description we have of the Spirit Ring. That’s much easier to scale than using the manga Orario size that’s incomplete and from a different angle which also might or might not be accurate.

That’s from Hero and the Prostitute from the Season 2 Blu-Ray which was later compiled into Orario Stories. I’ll read Orario Stories tomorrow alongside the other two volumes of MS and SO as there are Chinese translations for that.

Also I should be all caught up to the series in two more days. Once I’m done we should probably go over the possible calcs that the various levels can scale to and how to tackle the order of magnitude statement.
I was reffering to Finn's statement where it says he "arrived on a decision faster than light" as well as how the manga translated it, was curious to know how the original version was stated

and yeah that's fair, astrea record probably the most clear depiction of Orario we'll get, it's just that I tend to preffer to not mix and match different adaptaions when they would just look different which lead to inconsistencies but it's whatever I get it

and yeah we should, you probably did the compilation of every feat possible too so we probably have just about everything we need to work it, when I did my read of the series, I wasn't sure of what counted as a feat and what didn't since it all just became a whole lot of "character break the wall" and "structure starts shaking" but you went in and listed everything including things I would have missed myself so big respect there

anyway, priorities would probably be the big feats (as in, the firestorm and the behemoth storm) then we look into other things, like, heaven's gate shouldn't scale to anything but it could be fun to try and calc the big explosion anyway
 
I was reffering to Finn's statement where it says he "arrived on a decision faster than light" as well as how the manga translated it, was curious to know how the original version was stated

and yeah that's fair, astrea record probably the most clear depiction of Orario we'll get, it's just that I tend to preffer to not mix and match different adaptaions when they would just look different which lead to inconsistencies but it's whatever I get it

and yeah we should, you probably did the compilation of every feat possible too so we probably have just about everything we need to work it, when I did my read of the series, I wasn't sure of what counted as a feat and what didn't since it all just became a whole lot of "character break the wall" and "structure starts shaking" but you went in and listed everything including things I would have missed myself so big respect there

anyway, priorities would probably be the big feats (as in, the firestorm and the behemoth storm) then we look into other things, like, heaven's gate shouldn't scale to anything but it could be fun to try and calc the big explosion anyway
I don’t see that part in the novel. So it’s probably a manga original statement.

I already listed most of the feats that I think should be the notable ones that would scale to everybody at that level on the opening post of this discussion thread.

Ehh I say we work our way up from the smaller ones first. Since those are the ones that Bell who has a profile would scale to right now. Fire Storm and the Behemoth Storm are level 8 and 9 stuff which Bell wouldn’t be scaling to for quite a while.
 
I don’t see that part in the novel. So it’s probably a manga original statement.

I already listed most of the feats that I think should be the notable ones that would scale to everybody at that level on the opening post of this discussion thread.

Ehh I say we work our way up from the smaller ones first. Since those are the ones that Bell who has a profile would scale to right now. Fire Storm and the Behemoth Storm are level 8 and 9 stuff which Bell wouldn’t be scaling to for quite a while.
it's fair to start off small but max output argo vesta level 5 Bell is more than resonable to scale to it considering he matched blows with base Ottar, he even said that if it wasn't for the level difference, Bell would have won, even if you believe levl 6 adventurers shouldn't scale to the firestorm, level 7 is more than fair game to scale

also there's the point of Ottar can scale to it considering he defeated Zard, which even stated after being defeated by Ottar that he was stronger than he ever was which would mean he was even stronger than when he killed the behemoth, and that was a high level 6 Ottar that barely became a level 7, meanwhile Bell matched peak level 7 ottar which could stop Ais's Lil rafalga which previously defeated the demi spirit, I believe it's resonable scaling
 
it's fair to start off small but max output argo vesta level 5 Bell is more than resonable to scale to it considering he matched blows with base Ottar, he even said that if it wasn't for the level difference, Bell would have won, even if you believe levl 6 adventurers shouldn't scale to the firestorm, level 7 is more than fair game to scale

also there's the point of Ottar can scale to it considering he defeated Zard, which even stated after being defeated by Ottar that he was stronger than he ever was which would mean he was even stronger than when he killed the behemoth, and that was a high level 6 Ottar that barely became a level 7, meanwhile Bell matched peak level 7 ottar which could stop Ais's Lil rafalga which previously defeated the demi spirit, I believe it's resonable scaling
Assuming Max Charge Argonaut is still a +3 level boost like it was when he was level 2 then yeah he would scale to level 9 with it and the Grand Bell version would be level 10 at least. Since Bell at level 5 already had stats equivalent to a level 6.

The Firestorm stuff still needs to be looked over first. Cause right now based on the Merged Filvis Magic >= Titan Alm Demi Spirit Magic statement in SO12, Fire Storm would be a level 8 attack. As Filvis is a level 7 with the Mage DA making her magic output level 8 and thus the Fire Storm level 8 as well. Which means level 7s shouldn’t scale to it. The Titan Alm Demi Spirit was probably just a glass cannon like the other mages in the series with them being able to output magic one level higher than their physical stats.

The level 7s can instead scale to the Knossos Demi Spirits’ main body which were stated in the SO manga to be individually capable of destroying Orario with their magic. One of said Demi Spirit’s magic being effortlessly overpowered and destroyed by Base Ottar at that.

Fits the progression of power as well. Level 7 Demi Spirits have statements of being able to destroy Orario while level 8 Demi Spirits can destroy the 59th floor which is over double the size and probably near quadruple the size of Orario.

Ottar was a level 7 at the time because he used his Transformation which is considered a level boost. Also he would only scale via Hildis Vini. Though tbh I feel like with Hildis Vini Ottar is probably level 9 considering how he matched a Max Charge Argonaut. But we still gotta look over all the scaling first. Cause ngl Hildis Vini being a two level buff sounds crazy even if it matches what happened in the novel. Though considering how Zald was said to be Zeus’ equivalent of Gareth he might also be hitting one level above his actual stat like the mages. And Ottar’s Hildis Vini overpowered his magic and one shot him so maybe it being a +2 level boost does make sense.

Also Aiz’s Lil Rafaga is only level 7. Base Revis can stop it with her bare hands and she’s weaker than Merged Filvis who’s physically stated to still only be among the upper limits of level 7 and not yet a level 8 outside of her magic output.
 
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Orario Tales

Orario can fit two or three small kingdom capitals in it.
迷宫都市欧拉丽十分巨大。
其总面积可以轻松装下两三个小王国的国都。想要用一天看遍所有的地方近乎于不可能。
Labyrinth City Orario is enormous.
Its total area could easily accommodate the capitals of two or three small kingdoms. Seeing it all in a single day is nearly impossible.
The Hero And The Prostitute

Dungeon lore
「以前曾ba这个空洞de存在告知魔术师费尔斯,打算前去调查……但没能如愿。母亲像发出警告一样抖动起来,试图借着崩塌来拍碎我们」
脑中一片空白的薇妮提出问题后,古罗斯便予以回复,蕾依则进行补充。
不是迷宫最深部,而是『最渊卡西欧斯』。
个中意义并不明了。但却隐约明白了,从属于地上的『人类』定然无法涉足的这一场所正是地下城中极其重要的场所。
"I once informed the magus of this hollow, Fels, and intended to investigate... but it was unsuccessful. Mother trembled as if issuing a warning, attempting to crush us with a collapse."
Wiene, her mind completely blank, asked a question, and Gros responded, with Rei adding to the discussion.
Not the deepest part of the Dungeon, but 'The Deepest Cassios.'
The meaning of this was unclear. However, it was vaguely understood that this place, forbidden to 'humans' of the surface, was a crucial location within the dungeon.
Letters From The Xenos

Reincarnated Juggernaut Xenos took on 3 high level 5s and Fels a high level 4 before being defeated
「这个异端儿极其危险。无论是其行动理由,还是其潜在能力,在各种意义上。跟以前的存在一样,潜藏着成为『厄灾』的极高可能性。」
不难想象,寄宿着杀戮愿望的异端儿、会带来凄惨的末来。哪怕那个存在理由,即便只针对一人的存在。
也没有证明潜藏力量的必要。这个『怪物』刚刚诞生,就让相当于L.5的蕾依受了重伤。包括她在内,里德、古罗斯、费尔斯四人一起最终才能将其镇压。
"This Xenos is extremely dangerous. Both its motivations and its potential abilities, in every sense, hold a high potential to become a 'disaster', just like its predecessors."
It's easy to imagine a heretic harboring a desire for murder leading to a catastrophic end. Even if that reason for existence is limited to one person.
There's no need to prove its potential. This 'monster' had just been born, and it had already severely injured Rei, who was equivalent to Level 5. It took the combined efforts of Lido, Gros, and Fels, along with her, to finally subdue it.
What The World Shows When Looking Ahead

Season 5 BD Side Story

Aiz can still use the White Wind Tempest after the battle with Revis
「——【白风啊(Tempest)】——」
为了伸手够到『钟』声,为了紧抱白兔,为了对拯救了自己的光芒回以笑容,『魔法的话语』已不知不觉脱口而出。
「呜呜!?」
足以把呆立在一旁的费尔斯吹飞的气流就此产生。
可这并不是猛烈的风暴。
并不是破坏、覆盖一切的黑色暴风。
而是带有『洁白』之色的,清澈透明之风。
艾丝闭上眼,感受着包裹自己身体的风,然后慢慢睁开了眼睛。
(不同以往的『风』……并不是我知道的魔法(风灵疾走)……可却如此温暖。)
已经听不到『兔子』的脚步声了。他所说的『迟到』的时间已经结束了。
艾丝赶上了。
即便她本人无法自觉,也没有意识到,某人的憧憬终于还是抵达了夺回某人的『大钟楼』的源头。
"—[White Wind (Tempest)]—"
To reach the sound of the 'bell,' to hold the white rabbit close, to smile back at the light that had saved her, the 'magic words' had already slipped out of her mouth without her realizing it.
"Woooo!?"
A gust of wind, powerful enough to send Fiers flying, stood there stunned.
But this wasn't a violent storm.
Not a black storm that destroyed and enveloped everything.
It was a clear, transparent wind with a 'pure white' hue.
Ais closed her eyes, feeling the wind enveloping her, then slowly opened them.
(This 'wind' was different from before...not the magic I knew (Ariel)...but it was so warm.)
The 'rabbit's' footsteps were no longer audible. The time he'd been 'late' was over.
Ais had caught up.
Even though she herself was unconscious, someone's longing had finally reached the source of reclaiming someone's 'Grand Bell.'
Miniature Garden Substory

Sword Oratoria Volume 13

School District Info
The iconic ship earned the title of the world’s largest many times over.
A diameter of 700 meders.
Its body was a cylinder that could hardly be called a hull. It was most correctly described as a floating ship. A grand manifestation of Orario’s magic-stone industrial development, an amalgamation of 500 large-scale magic-stone devices—a flotation device also used for the elevator in Babel —allowed it to slide across the surface of the sea and boldly travel all around the world.
The round structure that made up the ship was divided into three layers: the control layer, the residential layer, and the academic layer. The cylindrical layers were over twenty meders tall, providing a massive amount of living space despite being on a ship normally out at sea. More than ten thousand people lived on board, and its scale was on par with that of a large city.
The highest level, the academic layer, was bathed in sunlight beneath the blue sky. It was covered in schoolhouses, large-scale arenas, and various other facilities laid out in beautiful symmetry. In the center was the bridge, a tower that resembled Babel.
The bow resembled the head of a heron and could move a full 360 degrees, setting the ship’s course.
It, too, was a magic-stone product, a one-of-a-kind forcefield propulsion device.
A short stack of pancakes.
A clock with an extra-long hand.
A grand dragon’s back.
Described along those lines by those who saw it, it was an object of envy across the breadth of the mortal realm.
Both a ship that traveled the world and a world of knowledge and study unto itself.
Welcoming those who studied, illuminating those who were lost, a guiding light that spread its wings across the whole world.
Its official name was the Hringhorni. Its other name was the Maritime Academy for Scholarship Special Administrative District, aka the School District.
Chapter 2: Nostalgic Schoolhouse

Luke a level 3 when not even exhibiting 1/10 of his true strength struggled against a level 2 monster like Liger Fang. Supporting the idea that there is a 10x gap between each level bare minimum.
Cole’s and Miliria’s panicked voices rang out as a liger fang put Luke on the backfoot.
It was one of the more powerful monsters in the Cave Labyrinth and certainly deserved caution, but it was an opponent a party with a Level 3 should have no difficulty with. Even if there were many in the swarm, they would have been able to handle it without issue.
Or rather, because Lefiya was keeping most of the monsters busy, they should have been able to handle the rest.
However, their brilliance on the training field was badly lacking in the current 7th Squad.
Luke’s movements are off, and it’s disrupting the party’s coordination!
The effects of him losing to Lefiya were showing. Luke was not displaying even a tenth of his true strength. He was failing to manage even a single monster.
He was the core of the 7th Squad. When he was fired up, they would be, and when he was off-balance, so were they.
Chapter 3: Class Is In Session

The current Black Dragon is stronger than it was in the past and from the gods' own estimations of it.
“By all accounts, the sheer amount of strength Zeus and Hera could muster was the greatest that has ever been seen since the beginning of the era of the gods and has yet to be surpassed. And still they failed. The black dragon gathered strength through the centuries that surpassed Orario’s estimates and even those of the deities themselves.”
It was one of the few old stories that Riveria had let slip.
Curious about Zeus, Hera, and the black dragon, Lefiya had investigated the records herself and shuddered.
The downfall of the two great factions who possessed a Level 8 and a Level 9.
What that meant was that no matter how Orario’s present strength was calculated, there was no way they could defeat the black dragon.
Chapter 4: Those Who Teach And Those Who Are Taught

Level 2s can remain active without supplies for an entire day
Stopping his fingers before they started to quiver, Cole pulled out the pocket watch that Lefiya had given them.
“A Level Two can remain active inside the Dungeon for one day without supplies.”
That was what Lefiya had said. But with the caveat that applied to adventurers:
Chapter 5: The Mirror's Voice

Goliath a level 4 monster could be hurt by a level 3 mage. More evidence for mages hitting above their level
As terrified of the monster rex as she was, Nano still cast her spell, dispersing her magic power as obviously as possible. Evidently, even Goliath could not completely ignore a Level 3 mage’s ultimate magic because it picked up a boulder at its feet and threw it at her.
Chapter 5: The Mirror's Voice

Level 4 Lefiya can hurt a Goliath physically
Faster than Goliath’s arms, she sliced its right leg as she passed.
There was a dull thud like her sword had slammed into the trunk of a tree. Its skin split, and she carved into flesh, drawing a spray of blood. The arm swinging down behind her tore into the ground, unleashing a torrent of destruction.
Despite Goliath’s tremendous durability, her sword’s blade did not so much as chip. But it was not a large weapon and could not deal a decisive blow.
Chapter 5: The Mirror's Voice

Level 2 Lefiya's full power blast can knock back a simple punch from Goliath but was unable to hurt it
“A-Arcs Ray!!!”
The flash of light hit the giant’s fist straight on.
A searing ball of light blinded her.
There was a loud blast, and Lefiya was blown backward.
“Agh?! …Gh?!”
Goliath just recoiled backward a bit.
Its fist was raised overhead, knocked back by Lefiya’s full-power spell.
Smoke was rising from it, but there wasn’t even a scratch.
Lefiya’s magic had only just managed to defend against the giant’s most minor of attacks.
Chapter 5: The Mirror's Voice

DanMachi Volume 19

Infant Dragons shaking parts or the entire 12th floor which is far larger than the 5th floor that is as large as Central Park. Not sure whether or not this is enough evidence of it shaking the entire floor tbh so I don’t think this’ll actually be a good enough feat to scale level 2s to.
The infant dragon is a rare monster on the upper floors. Our unusual opponent roars, shaking the 3rd Squad and the ground alike. Its long tail, covered in sturdy scales, suddenly lashes out, knocking over several dead trees and a couple imps in the process. The three frontliners manage to leap away from the swipe, but their movement is clearly less sharp than earlier.
Finally, as if answering our silent prayers…tremors shake the room.
“OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!”
An infant dragon tears through the passage and flies straight into our room. And in front of it are a half-elf and a prum!
Chapter 4: Study, Reflect, Experiment, Advance
 
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Sword Oraroria Volume 14

A 14 year old Finn is capable of defeating monsters on the surface even before gaining falna due to having trained himself to his limit without falna
“Fourteen. I left my home village four years ago and have been training myself as I expand my horizons. I can defeat most common monsters with only my own strength, and was just thinking it was about time I started looking for a deity.”
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

Falna boosting Finn's strength to the point where he was like a dwarf.
“I see…So this is the power of Falna…”
With his blond hair swaying slightly, Finn had just single-handedly taken on a swarm of monsters. He and Loki were currently about halfway up the mountain overlooking Preblica. The trees were less dense here, allowing more space for him to take advantage of his spear’s reach.
Finn had taken on a simple request from a local merchant who had complaints about the increased monster activity nearby. The task ultimately served more as a practical test for himself, allowing him to put his new Status through its paces. His arm strength had clearly increased dramatically, letting him easily swing his spear, and his visual acuity had improved, too, which let him precisely track the movements of multiple monsters simultaneously. His body also moved noticeably faster and smoother than before, allowing him to evade all incoming enemy attacks.
“I didn’t imagine a blessing would make such a big difference… Hyah!”
Finn stepped forward, planted his foot in the ground, and swung his spear with incredible force. That single motion alone was enough to sweep aside all the remaining monsters before him; none of them rose back to their feet afterward. Finn broke into a slight smile at achieving that almost dwarflike feat of raw strength with his slender prum arms. He could feel his excitement rising as the power coursed through his body.
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

Finn is stronger than the average new level 1 adventurer due to having trained before even gaining falna
Loki had initially tagged along out of sheer curiosity, but even to her untrained eyes, the way he used his spear looked remarkably elegant. Even with Falna, dealing with ten or more enemies simultaneously should have been at least somewhat troublesome, yet he hadn’t struggled at all. Wielding a spear easily twice his size as if it were nothing, Finn already glowed with a warrior’s aura—proof of his own innate strength, something that didn’t rely solely on his newly received Status.
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

Surface monsters' magic stones are only the size of pinky nails. Showing how much weaker they are compared to the monsters of the Dungeon which have magic stones the size of a palm.
Taking a breath, Finn started gathering the plunder from the battle. The slain monsters’ corpses turned quickly to ash as soon as he extracted the pinky-nail-sized magic stones from their chests. The cores obtained from monsters dwelling aboveground were far smaller than those harvested from their original Dungeon-dwelling counterparts. Even collecting a couple dozen of these wouldn’t sell for much, but it was still worth doing, if only to help back up his negotiations with the merchant later. Besides, simply leaving monster corpses lying around was just asking for trouble.
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

Even monsters on the surface which are weaker than the ones fought in the dungeons are capable of breaking down the stone walls of Preblica Village and destroying wooden buildings.
The village of Preblica was spread out along the base of the mountain, and its walls had already been breached, broken in multiple locations by what looked like an army of monsters attacking the settlement.
Preblica swirled with raw terror and chaos. A large swarm of monsters had appeared seemingly out of nowhere from the nearby mountain and were now launching a direct assault on the town. The relatively low stone wall encircling the settlement had proven useless against the unprecedented, overwhelming attack. The town guards who had been on duty were quickly scattered, proving little more than a momentary bump in the road as the monsters flooded into the village proper.
Inside the breached walls, utter chaos reigned: windmills lay shattered, wooden homes had been violently torn open, leaving gaping holes. The colorful flag that had been decorated with colorful adornments for the festival now lay in tatters, trampled on the ground. The terrified screams of villagers echoed without pause throughout the settlement.
The swarm, comprised of all sorts of different monster species, destroyed any buildings they encountered and attacked any people they happened to come across.
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

The falnaless guards and mercenaries can survive getting hit by a 6 meter long airen who can also shatter roofs of houses.
An enormous body emerged from the swirling cloud of dust.
It was a giant, hair-raising mass of flesh, a hideous figure that evoked a blue slug crawling across the ground. At the top of the mass of flesh was an upper body, just barely discernible as female, with two arms. Finn’s eyes widened when he saw the monster, thinking that looked like it had been born from a giant’s viscera.
“Th-that’s…a-an airen…?!”
A mercenary’s voice quailed just as the airen roared. The six-meder long body swung, sweeping like a giant’s arm.
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”
“Gaaaaaah?!”
Guards and mercenaries alike were swept aside. But it did not stop there. Its powerful arms shattered the roofs of houses and it even breathed fire. Simply seeing its destructive potential was enough to transform courage into terror.
Chapter 1: The Prum's Adventure

Alf's Royal Forest is much larger than that of a kingdom's royal capital. It has groves of trees that are easily taller than 50 meters.
A grove of trees well over fifty meders tall…A still and cool spring… Unfamiliar scenery began to dominate. This point marked the beginning of the unknown for Riveria.
Chapter 2: The High Elf's Departure

A lvl 1 Riveria's Wynn Fimbulvetr managed to turn a portion of the forest into a frozen tundra instantaneously.
The elves were speechless as the chill ice burst forth and closed in, mercilessly swallowing them up.
The forest creaked as it froze over in an instant. The glacial torrent terrified the unicorn and the white mare laying on the ground and sapped the entire world of its warmth.
After that tremendous cannon blast resounded, a world shrouded in frost and ice emerged.
“This is…”
Aina, kneeling on the ground; Finn, who somehow managed to escape the line of ice; and Riveria herself were all in awe at the sight before them. The frozen night woods were filled with the screams of elves whose bodies were half encased in ice.
Chapter 2: The High Elf's Departure

Surface green dragon that's 10 meters long and 5 meters tall destroyed a bunch of trees well over 50 meters tall and turned the surrounding land flat. Level 2s should scale to this as Hell Finnegas Finn could hold it off all by himself.
“A green dragon?!”
Its giant form was ten meders long and well over five meders high. The membranous wings growing from its back were ragged, but its bark-like, stout scales were still solid looking. The dragon’s large jaw, capable of swallowing a person whole, was filled with twisted fangs, and its green eyes glittered with a ferocious gleam.
A green dragon…In the distant Labyrinth City, they were treasure keepers inhabiting the middle levels of the Dungeon. Monstrous enough to be called the strongest monsters of their floors, they possessed the highest potential a dragon type could have.
“Impossible. Father slayed it one hundred years ago…Did it have a child?!”
Shock filled King Rafale’s eyes, and he shuddered at the implication of that thought. A dragon that saw its parent die and almost died itself, its wings still tattered from the magic flames that scoured it, hiding away so that the elves did not notice its presence and biding its time for a hundred years while it steadily grew to this enormous size.
True to King Rafale’s conjecture, the green dragon unleashed a furious roar at the stunned and dumbfounded elves before it.
“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!”
“Guaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?!”
Its claws and fangs tore into and blew away the long-eared creatures it loathed so much. The elves’ desperate volleys of arrows and hastily cast spells were all repelled by scales sturdier than any tree.
The archers and knights paled and were brushed aside by a single swipe of the vast creature’s tail.
It was like a storm, splintering all of the trees in its path. The trees fell with pained creaks, and in an instant, the land was made flat. Seeing that, King Rafale gave the order to fall back.
Chapter 2: The High Elf's Departure

Riveria's feat got changed in the actual volume release. Instead of destroying the forest with Wynn Fimbulvetr, Riveria punched a hole in the forest with Rea Laeveteinn. And narration specifically states that this is power impossible at level 1. Which means this was an level 2 attack. But it also seems like the feat is no longer 8-A+ as the feat is no longer piercing into the horizon but rather just punching a hole upwards in the forest.
The final verse. Gathering magical power impossible at Level 1, the high elf princess chose to unleash it on the forest in which she’d been born and raised.
“Rea Laevateinn!!!”
A single pillar. A pillar of fire. That was all that this Riveria could summon. But even so, the all-consuming crimson flame erupted from a magic circle that had spread across the ground.
“──────────?!”
With a bevel that skimmed the ground, the pillar of flame enveloped the green dragon, piercing through it and charging onward. Finn reflexively leaped away, watching in wonder as the crimson gleam swallowed everything in its path.
The dragon could only endure it for an instant. The claws gripping the ground were peeled away, and then the green dragon’s enormous body itself was blown away, incinerated with a final dying cry.
“Goooooooooooooooo!”
The noble flames did not stop crackling even as Riveria raised a cry. Continuing to rise, they pierced the canopy, stabbing and burning everything, tearing an enormous hole in the Alf Royal Woods, a thundering boom accompanying the blaze.
“Lady Riveria?!”
Aina rushed over and caught the princess, who then dropped her staff and slumped limply. Having used the last of her strength, Riveria was now bathed in a healing light.
“Aaaah…”
She watched as embers danced in the forest, and beyond them, peering over the horizon created by the treetops, she saw the sun. The Alf Royal Woods was covered by such a dense canopy that the sky was not visible. The traces of both sunlight and moonlight that managed to make it through the gaps in leaves created a fantastical scene, everything illuminated from above, as they refracted through the holy woods.
This was Riveria’s first sunrise and her first glimpse of the world beyond.
Chapter 2: The High Elf's Departure

Dwarves are all naturally so strong that they are comparable to falna users.
Having received Falna, Riveria could stand toe to toe with dwarves, the strongest of all demi-humans. Using the reach of her long staff, she jabbed them in the chest as they tried to grab her but otherwise just swept them aside. In addition to her bow, she had also learned to fight with a staff. In her hatred and anger, she hadn’t a whit of the restraint she might have once had. The brawny dwarves, knocked out of the bar and onto the ground, groaned in pain.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Gareth is so powerful that even without falna he could overpower both Riveria and Finn whom are lvl 1
Grabbing the elf’s staff with his bare hand, the dwarf slammed it— along with Riveria’s body—into the floor. And he did it all with just one arm, the very same arm the princess had called stubby moments ago.
“Riveria?!”
Finn could not believe his eyes, but the dwarf did not stop. The elf gritted her teeth and tried to stand up as he wound up for a punch aimed right at her.
Dropping his spear, Finn swiftly moved, covering Riveria with his body to block the oncoming fist.
“——”
The dwarf’s fist connected with Finn’s shoulder. He had braced himself but it wasn’t enough to hold his ground, and he was driven backward along with Riveria. Together they slammed into the wall of the bar, dragging tables and chairs along with them in a thunderous crash.
“Finn?!”
“Lady Riveria?!”
Loki and Aina both shouted, and an uproar filled the bar.
“Ga-hah…Kah-hah…?!” Riveria coughed.
“Gh…Apologies, Riveria…” The elf had slammed back into the wall while catching Finn. The prum’s face was twisted in pain as he held his right shoulder and looked at the dwarf who had sent them both flying.
The bearded dwarf man was looking disinterestedly at them.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Surface lambtons causing cave-ins within mines and breaking a large part of the wall
“Ghh…?!”
Gareth groaned as falling rocks clattered around him, the tunnel he was in shuddering. A drop of crimson blood dripped from his head.
“B-Big Bro…?!”
Yorger was shouting from beneath him.
Gareth had leaped forward, covering himself and the other dwarf with his body at the last possible second and saving them from the falling rubble—though he had suffered a nontrivial injury in the process. He shrugged off the rocks that had landed on his back, large and small alike.
There was no time to celebrate their narrow escape from death, though. With every light in the tunnel busted, Gareth forced himself to his feet.
The next moment, there was a loud, resounding thud. A section of the tunnel blasted open as the youngsters shouted.
Gareth slowly turned around toward the source, the thing even now silencing his team of miners, strong and sturdy dwarves all.
“Wait, that’s…?!”
The light revealed countless eerily gleaming scales. It had a terrible long, large body. A lengthy tongue slipped in and out between its fangs, and all six of its eyes glared at the dwarves.
“A snake monster?!”
Yorger and the others all shouted in terror.
A giant snake. Its six amber eyes darted in the darkness, setting the dwarves’ skin crawling. It had several pits on either side of its mouth, which was large enough to swallow an adult whole.
Gareth’s bloody face twisted when he saw the extra-large monster that had burst through the wall.
“This monster’s been causing collapses in other mines, too…?!”
It was a true monster, one that he had never seen or heard of before.
A lambton was what adventurers in distant Orario called it. Its official name was wormwell because of the massive passages it created in its wake. Ignoring the Dungeon’s rules, it freely passed between floors, becoming a symbol of fear for its unreasonable ability to cause trouble without warning. The rumble of its movement through rock was the lone telltale sign of an impending lambton attack, the signal of an incoming wipeout.
The recent spate of cave-ins had been because the lambton had turned the local mines into its den. The nearby mountains were nothing more than this massive monster’s backyard. The monster had made this place its territory and Gareth and his team were nothing more than prey that had conveniently wandered right into its lair.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Gareth surviving attacks from the surface lambton that could shake and destroy mine shafts with its movements. Gareth is physically stronger than the new level 1 adventurers for reference.
The scaled body slithered, hitting him with a simple body slam, but even just that knocked Gareth back.
“Nrghhhhh?!”
That terrible, long body was like a dragon’s tail, sweeping away everything in its path.
Gareth, his thick arms crossed, was hit with the force of a giant river and pushed just in front of Yorger and the others and then into the wall. He could not even grab the creature’s body and slow its movements.
His arm bones were cracked from the force of the impact, and a terrible pain seared his nerves.
“Big Broooo!”
The younger dwarves all shouted, aghast, as Gareth spit out bloody saliva and swung his pickax overhead to attack the lambton.
But it bounced off. The giant snake monster, which could shake a mine shaft with its movements, created an impossible, underground twister. Gareth was slammed repeatedly into the wall before rolling to the ground in a spray of blood.
As an extra-large monster capable of leaving a trail of destruction using just its enormous body, the lambton was stronger, sturdier, and more vicious than any of the monsters Gareth had routed before.
“Ghhhhh…?!”
On the verge of failing, Gareth’s lantern blinked, illuminating his bloodied and battered body.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Gareth managed to harm the lambton with his attacks
Meanwhile, there was a rage in the lambton’s six eyes. Hammering with the now useless pickax, Gareth had broken several of its scales.
It was just a small bit of payback, but it had only added oil to the flames. Furious at Gareth’s assault, the lambton had begun attacking more viciously and steadily growing fed up with the prey that refused to accept its fate. The reason it had not yet swallowed anybody was solely due to Gareth’s efforts. The younger dwarves cowered, watching the monster and dwarf stare each other down in a contest that had raged for hours now.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Surface lambton surviving two of Riveria's Rea Laeveteinn when a single one managed to defeat the green dragon.
Rea Laevateinn.
…with the ring of an elf’s voice he could not possibly hear, two tremendous pillars of flame erupted directly beneath the monster.
“—————AAAAAAAAAA?!”
Gareth and the dwarves watched in shock as the crimson inferno struck home, swallowing the monster in sparks. It was immediately followed by the sound of rock being smashed.
Chapter 3: The Dwarf's Embarking

Behemoth destroyed the Grand Canyon
那是……」
那天,天空非常晴朗。
尽管如此,大地还是动荡不安,从附近的各都市开始实施大规模的南下限制。
【洛基着族】在主神的神意下,悄悄地穿过那个限制,好不容易终于抵达了相当于大陆南部的
广阔的大峡谷地带。
Grand
见到了曾经是大峡谷地带的东西。
「大峡谷..消失了.」准确地说,熔化后削掉了。
由于地壳变动而隆超的雄伟大地的台阶上,拖出了『巨大的一条路』。
就好像『可怕的巨大之物』通过,把前进道路上的所有东西都变成了空地。
That's…”
That day, the sky was remarkably clear.
Despite this, the earth remained in turmoil, and large-scale restrictions on movement southward were implemented from nearby cities.
Under the divine providence of the Lord, the [Loki Familia] quietly passed through the restrictions and, with great difficulty, finally reached the vast Grand Canyon region, equivalent to the southern part of the continent.
They saw what had once been the Grand Canyon.
“The Grand Canyon… has disappeared.” More accurately, it had melted and eroded away.
A “huge road” had been carved out across the majestic steps of the earth, once surging due to crustal movement.
It was as if a “terrifying giant” had passed through, reducing everything in its path to empty space.
Burning With Desire SS

DanMachi Volume 20

Alfia's Genos Angelus was so powerful the chant alone was distorting the laws of nature with the magic power that was being charged up.
「【无法祓除,无以净化,无可救赎。响彻天际之音色正是吾之罪孽】」
漫长的咏唱。
庞大的魔力。
将豪雨与狂风悉数逼退的灰发之魔女。
法则因魔力漩涡的泛滥而扭曲,漂浮于空中的她,即便鲜红色早已点缀嘴唇却依然放声高歌。
"[Unexorable, unpurifiable, unredeemed. The sound that echoes through the heavens is my sin.]"
A long chant.
A vast magical power.
The gray-haired witch who drove back the torrential rain and fierce winds.
The laws of nature were distorted by the overflowing vortex of magical power. Floating in the air, she sang even as bright red adorned her lips.
Prologue: Hero Afterglow

Empress was able to cancel thousands of Leviathan's light magic with a wave of her hand while Maxim was able to stop Leviathan's charge alone.
滔天巨浪袭来。
这将一切吞没并粉碎的波涛冲击,却被其他高声怒吼的英雄们挺身拦下。
而成千上万道的闪光,则被女杰轻轻一挥手便悉数击坠。
至于足以撞碎世界的霸王那令人惊惧的冲锋,则被只身一人的英杰仅凭一柄大剑便斩落海中。
紧紧攀附着木筏的眷族们放出的魔法击碎了它的鳞片。
海洋的战士们飞身扑向与死亡无异的汪洋,向着那巨躯掷出鱼叉,将其贯穿。
A massive wave crashed down.
The surge, threatening to engulf and shatter everything, was stopped by the roaring roars of other heroes.
And the thousands of flashes of light were shattered by the heroine with a single wave of her hand.
The terrifying charge of the world-shattering overlord was slain by the lone hero with a single greatsword.
The magic cast by the family clinging to the raft shattered its scales.
The sea warriors leaped into the death-like ocean, hurling harpoons at the giant, piercing it.
Prologue: Hero Afterglow

Alfia kills Leviathan with Genos Angelus
「【代价已于此处支付,以罪孽之证将万物湮灭】────【恸哭吧,圣钟楼】」
到达临界点的魔力,就这么被轻易地抛掷出去了。
朝向着那意欲毁灭世界的终焉象征,神圣的破坏祝福被彻底释放而出。
本已一片昏黑的世界被染成清一色的白。毫无美感的极致爆音将一切裹覆。
在意识中断前的一刹那,听见了纯白世界中最终的那个。
那是『英雄们』击破了巨兽的呐喊。
那是编织着奇迹与希望,颠覆了不可能的人们。
"[The price has been paid here. With the evidence of sin, all things will be annihilated.] ──── [Wail, Holy Bell Tower]"
The magic power, reaching its critical point, was effortlessly flung out.
Toward the symbol of doom that threatened to annihilate the world, the sacred blessing of destruction was completely unleashed.
The already dark world was dyed a pure white. An absolute, aesthetically pleasing explosion enveloped everything.
In the moment before consciousness faded, the final sound of the pure white world was heard.
It was the cry of the "heroes" who had defeated the giant monster.
It was the people who wove miracles and hope, overturning the impossible.
Prologue: Hero Afterglow

Current level 5 Bell possesses greater strength than Base Aiz a low level 6
发动浑身解数的强袭。
这是现如今自己能释放出的全力一击。
我向『右侧』挥出的横一文字斩,那势头岂止是咬饵上钩,简直是要把诱饵咬得粉碎。艾丝小姐见状,瞪大了双眼。
「呼!!」
我以极快的速度逼近到艾丝小姐跟前,挥下了《女神之刃》。
只听「铿!!」的一声不协调音。是未产生火花的钝击。
艾丝小姐以神速展开防御,用剑鞘将我的一击完全挡下。
然而──反击并没有出现!
我将那个【剑姬】逼到了只能进行防御!
尽管程度非常微弱,但我的『战术』确实超乎了艾丝小姐的预料,这就是证明!!
「喝啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!」
在成功突破第二道考验,打了艾丝小姐一个措手不及后,我顺势继续进攻。
在第一击结束后的刹那,我几乎是无间断地释放出了连续斩击。
我无谋地用她最擅长的『正面交锋』,向眼前这位剑士发起挑战,从中挥出的每一击都诉说着我现在的全部实力。
「──唔!!」
而艾丝小姐也正面接受了我的挑战。
伴随着短促的呼气,她挥舞出勾勒残影的超连续迎击。
我的猛攻被尽数弹开,这真是出神入化的剑技。
尽管如此,她却唯独无法转守为攻。面对我有如怒涛般的连击,她始终无法掌握主动权。
那金色的双眸中再次染上一层惊愕。
进攻进攻再进攻!
舍弃防守!也放弃观察情况!就这么持续压制!
若不拼上我最有力的武器,想要与其抗衡就是天方夜谭。
只起到了初见杀效果的『战术』自不用说,『技巧』方面的差距也有如鸿沟。
小技俩只能成功一次,因此面对这最初也是最后的大好机会,我必须拼上我的全部!
赌上贝尔·克朗尼至今为止积攒起来的一切,我向憧憬的存在发起了挑战。
「!!!」
「!!!」
像是在指责我的斩击逐渐变得粗暴一般,艾丝小姐将我的匕首向一旁弹开,我顺势旋转身体。
以左脚为轴心,紧握匕首的右手化为离心力的加速装置,划出一道漩涡。
弹开一击的艾丝小姐如同和我照镜子一般,美丽的秀发描绘出金色的旋风。
双方同时使出上段回旋踢。
「!?」
靴子厚实的踵部爆发出激烈碰撞,到最后占上风的──是我!
将速度全数投入进攻,剩下的就只有纯粹的能力值差!
比起Lv.6的艾丝小姐,Lv.5的我『力量』更胜一筹!!
I launched a full-force assault.
This was the full force I could unleash right now.
I launched a horizontal Ichimonji slash to my right, the force more than just taking the bait; it practically shattered it. Miss Ais's eyes widened at the sight.
"Whoosh!"
I closed in on Miss Ais at breakneck speed and swung down the Goddess Blade.
There was a discordant "clang!" sound. It was a blunt blow, producing no sparks.
Miss Ais quickly deployed her defense, completely blocking my blow with her scabbard.
But—no counterattack!
I had forced that Sword Princess into a defensive position!
Although the attack was minimal, my "tactics" had indeed exceeded Miss Ais's expectations. This was proof!
"Hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"
After successfully overcoming the second test, catching Miss Ais off guard, I continued my attack. The moment the first strike ended, I unleashed a nearly continuous barrage of slashes.
I recklessly challenged the swordsman before me with her forte, 'head-on combat,' each strike betraying my current strength.
"—Hmm!!"
And Miss Ais accepted my challenge head-on.
With a short exhale, she unleashed a series of counterattacks, leaving afterimages.
My fierce attacks were completely deflected; this was truly a masterful swordsmanship.
Despite this, she was unable to turn defense into offense. Facing my raging barrage of blows, she could never seize the initiative.
A tinge of astonishment filled her golden eyes once again.
Attack, attack, attack!
Abandoning defense! Forgetting observation! Just a relentless pressure!
Without my most powerful weapon, it would be impossible to contend with her.
Not only was her 'tactics' merely effective at first sight, but the gap in 'technique' was also a chasm. This little trick only works once, so in this first and last great opportunity, I must risk everything I have!
Gambling everything Bell Crane has accumulated, I challenge the being I long for.
"!!!"
"!!!"
As if rebuking my increasingly brutal slashes, Miss Ais deflects my dagger, and I spin with it.
With my left foot as the axis, my right hand, gripping the dagger, becomes a centrifugal accelerator, creating a vortex.
Miss Ais, having deflected the blow, reflects in my own mirror, her beautiful hair creating a golden whirlwind.
We both simultaneously unleashed an upper spin kick.
"!?"
The thick heels of our boots collided fiercely, and in the end, I prevailed—I!
I channeled all my speed into my attack, leaving only the difference in pure stats!
At Level 5, I possess even greater "strength" than Miss Ais, who is Level 6!
Chapter 2: The Lion and the Sword Princess

Normal Ariel is a boost similar to Hedin's Laurus Hildr which is equivalent to a level boost
「【苏醒吧(tempest)】」
念出了那道『魔法』之名。
「【风灵疾走】」
「!!」
随即狂风席卷。
剧烈到足以目视的大气波动包裹着艾丝小姐全身。
我的白色刘海被刮得向后飞舞。
身体也承受着狂风的重压,双脚则差点向后退去。
我不禁睁大了深红的眼瞳。
(风属性的赋予魔法──)
所谓赋予魔法,就是通过将狂风或烈焰一类的元素缠绕在身体或武器上,以达到保护施法者,辅助攻击,或是提升速度等效果的魔法。
琉小姐也曾在『派阀大战』中使用过亚莉榭小姐的烈焰赋予魔法。
但是,那身烈焰铠甲的附加范围仅限于四肢和武器。
而艾丝小姐的『狂风』所包裹的,则是全身上下。
尽管属性不尽相同,但确实很像那时师父赋予我的迅雷之加护(圣女雷赞)。
赋予魔法的范围并不必然和输出上限直接相关。虽说如此。
(正是因为体验过师父的魔法,所以能够明白──)
──那道『狂风』,甚至不亚于师父那比肩等级升华的超级强化魔法。
"[Awaken (Tempest)]"
She chanted the name of the spell.
[[Ariel]]
"!!"
Then a gust of wind swept over.
A wave of air so intense it was visible enveloped Miss Ais's entire body.
My white bangs flew back.
My body bore the weight of the wind, and my feet nearly fell backward.
My crimson eyes widened.
(Wind-attribute Enchantment Magic—)
Enchantment magic is magic that envelops the body or weapon with elements like wind or flame, protecting the caster, assisting attacks, or increasing speed.
Miss Ryu had also used Miss Alise's flame-enchantment magic during the Faction War.
However, that flame armor's effect was limited to the limbs and weapons.
Miss Ais's "Wind" enveloped her entire body. While the attributes are different, it certainly resembles the Thunder Divine Protection (Laurus Hildr) that Master bestowed upon me back then.
The range of a given spell isn't necessarily directly related to its maximum damage output. That being said.
(It's precisely because I've experienced Master's magic that I understand it──)
──That 'Wild Wind' was even comparable to Master's super-enhanced magic, comparable to a level-up.
Chapter 2: The Lion and the Sword Princess

Zald one shot Behemoth after using a Deus Ambrosia + Rea Ambrosia (Afterglow) combo
最终──武人男性将其中一头『巨兽』一刀两断。
斩断『陆上王者』的那一击,自己没能亲眼目睹。
因此,我询问了目睹那一切的野猪,而他仅以寥寥数语向我述说。
那是霸者的一击。
不顾自身安危的暴食绝技。
那是再也无法握剑的平凡英雄之末路。
Finally—the warrior slashed one of the "giant beasts" in two with a single blow.
I didn't witness the blow that severed the "King of the Land."
So, I asked the wild boar who witnessed it, and he recounted it in a few words.
It was a strike from a tyrant.
A gluttonous skill that disregarded his own safety.
It was the end of an ordinary hero, unable to wield a sword again.
Chapter 3: The World, the Festival, and the Truth

The Great Wall info
「……!!」
当『那个』映入我的眼帘时。
旅途中的第二道冲击,袭向了我。
比起那座死城,这股冲击甚至还要强烈得多。
「比欧拉丽,还巨大的墙……」
就在妖精灵峰『阿尔弗山脉』的尽头悄然现身之刻。
于滚滚黑云之下,那堵『过于巨大的墙』巍然耸立。
这面石墙远比欧拉丽的城墙更高更厚,不抬头不得以窥其顶端。
真正骇人的是,这堵高墙绝非止于一隅,而是自西至东绵延不绝,未曾中断。
「……遭到破坏了……?」
而正是这面巨墙,如同被巨人一脚踢散般崩塌了。
就在我们眼前,范围大约是五十米。
我环顾着这片废墟,四处滚落的巨石彷佛被任意弃置一般,无论是它的鬼斧神工,还是它所遭破坏的惨状,都令我哑然失声。
「这道墙被唤作『巨龙长城』。是为了将我们至今走过的这片人类生存圈,与此处以北的生存禁区隔绝开来而设的『大防壁』。」
我仍旧无言地伫立于原地,而雷昂老师则走上前,将手按在巨墙上向我解释道。
「这是过去欧拉丽,以及以【托尔眷族】为首的众多派阀合力筑起的建筑物。」
雷昂老师走到那处彷佛是从北侧破坏的痕迹,然后转头看向我。
我如同牵线人偶一般默默跟了上去,紧紧揪着胸口的妮娜也与我一同前行。
爬上那片被撕裂成峡谷状的残骸,我们翻过巨壁,来到另一侧──也就是『大防壁』的前方。
在北方大地上铺展开来的,是一片苍茫无际的荒原,呈现出非黑非紫的诡异色调。
「这面『大防壁』的延伸范围,是从大陆的最西端直至最东端。」
「从大陆的一端延伸到另一端……!?」
「没错。为了应对接连不断的『访龙问题』,大约九百年前便开始动工了。堪称世界级规模的大工程。施工和修缮至今仍在反复进行,完工却遥遥无期。」
惊愕之余,我循着雷昂老师的视线将目光投向正东方。
正如先前所见,『大防壁』毫不夸张地延伸至地平线的另一端,筑起了分割南北的『大境界』。眼前的景象让人不禁相信,它的确延伸到了大陆的尽头。
『万里长城』。
脑中不禁浮现出这个字眼。
(大陆的北部……再往更深处的『最北端』,被这道防壁隔离起来了……?)
我在脑中摊开世界地图,确认位置信息。
欧拉丽所在之处,位于我们称之为『大陆』的陆地板块最西端。
更准确地说是偏向西北部,纬度较高。
我们和雷昂老师就是从那一路向着东北方前进的。
也就是说,这前方……只剩下『北地尽头』了。
而这处『北地尽头』,正是人类不惜花费数百年光阴也要隔绝开的『某物』的真面目。
「雷昂老师,前方是……」
「『龙之谷』。」
“…!!”
When ‘that’ came into view.
The second shock of my journey struck me.
This shock was even more powerful than that of the dead city.
“A wall even more massive than Orario…”
Just as the end of the Elven Peaks, the ‘Alver Mountains’, quietly emerged.
Under the rolling black clouds, that ‘overly massive wall’ towered majestically.
This stone wall was far taller and thicker than Orario’s, its top impossible to see without looking up.
The truly terrifying thing was that this wall didn’t stop at a corner, but stretched uninterrupted from west to east.
“…Destroyed…?”
And it was this very wall that crumbled, as if shattered by a giant’s kick.
Right before our eyes, a roughly fifty-meter radius. I surveyed the ruins, tumbling boulders everywhere, seemingly abandoned carelessly. Both its magnificent craftsmanship and the devastation it endured left me speechless.
"This wall is called the 'Dragon Wall.' It's the 'Great Wall,' intended to separate the human habitat we've been traversing from the restricted zone to the north."
I remained speechless as Leon approached, placing his hand on the wall and explaining.
"This structure was built by the combined efforts of Orario and various factions, including the Thor Family."
Leon walked to the mark of destruction from the north and turned to look at me.
I followed silently, like a puppet on a string. Nina, clutching her chest, joined me.
Climbing the wreckage, torn into a canyon, we climbed over the wall and arrived on the other side—in front of the 'Great Wall.' Stretching across the northern lands was a vast, boundless wasteland, a strange hue neither black nor purple.
"This 'Great Wall' stretches from the continent's westernmost to its easternmost tip."
"From one end of the continent to the other...!?"
"Indeed. Construction began approximately nine hundred years ago to address the recurring 'Dragon Visiting Problems.' It's a massive undertaking of world-class proportions. Construction and renovations are still ongoing, but completion seems far from certain."
Stunned, I followed Leon's gaze and cast my eyes due east.
As I had seen before, the 'Great Wall' stretched literally to the other side of the horizon, creating a 'great boundary' dividing north and south. The sight before me made it impossible not to believe that it truly stretched to the very end of the continent.
'The Great Wall.'
The phrase came to mind. (The northern part of the continent... the 'northernmost point' further inside is isolated by this barrier...?)
I unfolded the world map in my mind, checking the location.
Orario is located at the westernmost end of the landmass we call the 'continent'.
More precisely, it's towards the northwest, at a higher latitude.
From there, Leon-sensei and I headed northeast.
In other words, all that's left ahead...is the 'Northern End'.
And this 'Northern End' is the true face of 'something' that humans have spent centuries trying to isolate.
"Leon-sensei, what's ahead is..."
"'Dragon Valley'."
Chapter 3: The World, the Festival, and the Truth

Aria's storm barrier has kept the Black Dragon trapped for a thousand years
「『龙卷风』……?」
我任由吹来的风摇曳着头发,怔怔地低声呢喃。
那道令人窒息的漩涡,彷佛要将一切拒之门外。
其全貌无法估量,在锐利刺耳的寂静咆哮中,螺旋的烈风盘旋而上、直冲云霄,如利剑般贯穿了晦暗的天幕,冲破了压境的黑云。
仅此一物,便足以成为一切的象征。
几乎就如同矗立于欧拉丽中心的『巴别塔』。
而真正令人战栗的是,就连那座迷宫都市的神塔,也远无法与这道『龙卷风』相提并论。
哪怕从远处望去,也能断定其半径至少达到了一公里。那是足以吞噬整座大都市,甚至整片广阔领地的巨大范围。即便假设其高度与『巴别塔』持平,那副威容也绝非人智所能企及。
这显然不是自然的造物,却也远非人工可企及之构。置身于这幅超越常理的异象之下,我遭受了整段旅途中前所未有的冲击与震撼。
「那个…………到底是什么啊?」
「将『黑龙』封印至今的『仙精风暴』。」
口干舌燥中,我低声喃喃发问,而雷昂老师只是淡淡地给出答案。
妮娜似乎也是头一次目睹这幅景象,怔怔地杵着,说不出一句话。在烈风的长嚎中,我和她并肩伫立,拼命地试图去理解骑士之所言。
「那道『风』,正是延缓末日时钟的『支柱』。多亏它将『黑龙』牢牢束缚于此,下界才得以苟延残喘。」
「……!!」
「知晓这项情报的人,就算在世界各大势力中也屈指可数。那是筑于『古代』与『神代』交界处的『巨大风印(封印)』。」
听完这段说明,我已无言以对。
同时终于恍然大悟。
尽管世人高举名为三大冒险者委托的世界夙愿,末日时钟却迟迟没有敲响,之所以仍存有一丝『宽限』,全是多亏了眼前这柱『龙卷风』的存在。
那道『巨大风印』──正是『下界的延命装置』。
「可到底是谁,把那种东西……!?」
「『古代的大仙精』。你应该还记得,在遥远的往昔,是谁将『黑龙』从欧拉丽驱逐而出的吧?」
我先是脱口而出那则轶闻中的名字,但随即改口,换成了那个世人皆知的响亮名号。
「正是。被最强的英雄夺去一只眼睛后,自西方尽头的天际振翅而来的『独眼之龙』,最终由一柱大仙精以生命为代价封印于此。」
"A 'tornado'...?"
I let the wind whip my hair around, mumbling in a daze.
That suffocating vortex seemed to shut everything out.
Its full extent was immeasurable. Amidst a sharp, piercing, silent roar, spiraling winds spiraled upward, piercing the dark sky like a sword, breaking through the oppressive dark clouds.
This single object was enough to symbolize everything.
It was almost like the Tower of Babel towering in the heart of Orario.
And the truly terrifying thing was that even the sacred tower of the labyrinth city was no match for this 'tornado'.
Even from a distance, one could tell its radius was at least a kilometer. That was a vast area, enough to engulf an entire metropolis, or even an entire vast territory. Even assuming its height matched the Tower of Babel, its majesty was beyond human comprehension. This was clearly not a natural creation, yet it was also far beyond human control. Surrounded by this unimaginable vision, I was overwhelmed with a shock and awe unlike anything I'd experienced on this entire journey.
"What... is that?"
"The 'Fairy Storm' that has sealed the 'Black Dragon' until now."
Through my dry mouth, I murmured my question, and Teacher Leon simply gave a bland answer.
Nina, seemingly witnessing this scene for the first time, stood there in stunned silence, unable to utter a single word. Amidst the howling wind, I stood side by side with her, desperately trying to comprehend the knight's words.
"That 'wind' is the 'pillar' that delays the Doomsday Clock. Thanks to it, the 'Black Dragon' is bound here, and the Lower World remains alive."
“…!!”
“Even among the world’s major powers, only a handful of people know this information. It’s the ‘Giant Wind Seal’ built at the border between the ‘Ancient’ and the ‘Age of the Gods’.”
After hearing this explanation, I was speechless.
At the same time, a sudden realization dawned on me.
Despite the world’s cherished wish, entrusted by the three great quests, the Doomsday Clock has yet to strike. The only reason it still has a glimmer of ‘grace’ is thanks to the existence of this ‘tornado’ before me.
That ‘Giant Wind Seal’—is none other than the ‘life-extending device of the underworld’.
“But who, after all, sent that thing…!?”
“‘The Great Ancient Spirit.’ You should remember who, in the distant past, expelled the ‘Black Dragon’ from Orario?”
I blurted out the name from the anecdote, but then corrected myself, switching to the resounding name known to all.
"That's right. After having one eye taken away by the strongest hero, the 'One-Eyed Dragon' flew down from the western skies, only to be sealed here by a great immortal at the cost of his own life."
Chapter 3: The World, the Festival, and the Truth

Black Dragon is capable of commanding all dragons scattered across the world
「相传,那头被大英雄夺去只眼的『黑龙』一降临这片深谷,便立刻发出了『号令』。向着彼时遍布下界的同胞……全体龙种号令:『尽数集结于吾之麾下』。」
「……!」
「依众神断言,它是为了治愈失去的单眼,因此需要『饵食』。于是,当几乎所有龙种都聚集在这片边陲之地的瞬间……大仙精唤出了那道巨大的风暴。为下界带来无数毁灭,最为凶暴的种族──龙种,连同那『龙之王』,从此便被囚于此地。」
"Legend has it that the 'black dragon,' whose eye was taken by the great hero, immediately issued a 'command' upon its arrival in this valley. It commanded its brethren, then scattered throughout the lower realms... all dragons: 'Gather under my command!'"
"...!"
"According to the gods, it sought 'food' to heal its lost eye. And so, the moment nearly all dragons gathered in this remote area... the great immortal summoned a massive storm. It brought untold destruction to the lower realms, and the most ferocious race—the dragons—along with the 'Dragon King', were imprisoned here forever."
Chapter 3: The World, the Festival, and the Truth

Leon casually hits ten Firebolts with one strike
「【火焰闪电】!」
烈焰与雷光交织的速射魔炮。
全然不顾后续的精神力消耗,十连射脱手而出。
面对饱含魔力的猩红雷雨,雷昂老师面不改色。
『壮烈的斩击声』划破长空。
仅此一击,所有的炎雷便四分五裂。
「唔……!」
「佯装正面冲锋,实则从死角射出魔法之雨。漂亮的奇袭。谁教你的?」
「用同样战法把我烧成焦炭,冷酷无情、长相如女性般的美男子妖精师父……!」
「赫定吗。难怪。」
“[Firebolt]!”
A rapid-fire magic cannon mingled with flames and lightning.
Without regard for the subsequent mental energy drain, he unleashed ten bursts.
Faced with the crimson thunderstorm brimming with magical energy, Teacher Leon remained unfazed.
A magnificent slashing sound pierced the sky.
With a single strike, all the flames and lightning shattered.
“Hmm…!”
“Pretending to charge head-on, you actually unleash a rain of magic from blind spots. A beautiful surprise attack. Who taught you that?”
“Using the same tactics to burn me to charcoal, you, my cold-blooded, feminine-looking, handsome fairy master…!”
“Hedin? No wonder.”
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Leon after having his first sword broken and increasing his agility stopped twenty consecutive Firebolts
「啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!」
一口气二十连发。尽管我很清楚一发都中不了。
然而,雷昂老师却选择正面迎击。
他并未闪避,而是用『光之双剑』将炎雷尽数击落。
“Aaaaaaaaaa!”
Twenty shots in a row. Even though I knew none of them would hit.
However, Leon-sensei chose to meet the attack head-on.
He didn't dodge, but instead used his Twin Swords of Light to strike back the flames.
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Leon's magic when fully activated is equivalent to a level up and specific stats even surpasses that of a level up
「虽然经常遭到误解,但我的【十二试剑】其实是效率极差的魔法。想要发挥出全力,必须让十一把武器统统碎掉。」
「……!」
「从『一之试剑』开始,依次是『敏捷』、『灵巧』、『力量』、『耐久』、『魔力』、『技能』和『魔法』……每次都会对一项能力进行增幅强化。和奥塔那种一次发动就能让能力暴涨的『兽化』根本无法相提并论。」
为公平起见而公布的这项魔法情报,让我止不住冷汗直流。
正如雷昂老师所言,这个魔法确实听上去效率低下。
然而,与奥塔先生的『兽化』所不同,雷昂老师的魔法恐怕毫无风险。
在无需任何代价的前提下逐步提升能力,这本身就已经是个巨大的威胁。
而且,尽管这不过是我的推测,但正因为必须经历如此繁琐的强化流程,『第十二武装』解放之刻──其强化幅度甚至会凌驾于奥塔先生的『兽化』之上。
近乎确信的预感在我脑中低语。
这恐怕是足以匹敌『等级升华』的效果,而且在特定能力值上,就算超越【升级】也不足为奇。
"Although it's often misunderstood, my [Twelve Sword Trials] is actually an extremely inefficient spell. To unleash its full potential, all eleven weapons must be shattered."
"...!"
"Starting with 'First Sword Trial,' it goes on to 'Agility,' 'Dexterity,' 'Strength,' 'Endurance,' 'Magic Power,' 'Skill,' and 'Magic'... Each time, it amplifies and strengthens a single ability. It's incomparable to Ota's 'Beast Transformation,' which explodes with a single activation."
This information about the spell, released for the sake of fairness, made me break out in a cold sweat.
As Leon-sensei said, this spell does sound inefficient.
However, unlike Ota-sensei's 'Beast Transformation,' Leon-sensei's spell is likely risk-free.
Gradually increasing power without any cost is a huge threat in itself.
And, although this is just my speculation, precisely because it requires such a complex strengthening process, once the 'Twelfth Armament' is released—its power level will even surpass that of Ota-sensei's 'Beast Transformation.' A near-certain premonition whispered in my mind.
This could rival the effects of a "Level Up," and in certain abilities, it wouldn't be surprising to see it surpass even a "Level Up."
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Leon's held back Afterglow easily overpowered Bell's one minute Argonaut charge that was trying to mimic the effects of Afterglow
一分钟的蓄力。
我从两位Lv.7的架势中归纳出共同点,使出浑身解数的袈裟斩。
面对这招,
「太弱了。」
骑士一刀将其斩落。
即使起手稍晚,但凭借纯粹的力量与精湛的技艺,他将时间的法则轻易改写,抢在我之前挥出了骇人的『残光』。
「──────!?」
又是那一幕。
视野又一次被耀眼的强光所吞没。
狮金色的斩光超越音速,破空而至──我的斩击却无法飞出!
「咕嘎!?」
眼前近在咫尺之处,我蓄力挥出的重斩砸在地面,被那道斩光迎面撞上。
爆发的猛烈冲击不言而喻。
招式的完成度简直天壤之别,胜负一目了然。
尽管大部分冲击都被抵消,但我依旧惨败,连同死死不放的大剑一同被炸飞,倒向后方。
也就是飞向妮娜!
「贝尔前辈!?」
「咕、呜呜呜呜……!?」
治疗师女孩立刻赶到我身边,施展回复魔法。
转瞬间就变得破破烂烂的战斗服下,伤痕累累的肌肤开始迅速愈合。
仅仅一击,甚至还不是直接命中,就造成了这样的重创。
但……他还是手下留情了!
最初的那道『残光』,可是把高台直接削去了半边啊!
而刚刚的一击,充其量不过是在地上劈开了一条深深的裂痕!我本人也并没灰飞烟灭!
A minute of charging.
I gathered the commonalities between the two Level 7s' stances and unleashed my full-throttle Kasaya Slash.
Faced with this move,
"Too weak."
The knight cut it down with a single blow.
Though he'd started slightly late, with sheer strength and masterful technique, he easily rewrote the laws of time, unleashing a terrifying 'Afterglow' before me.
"──────!?"
It was the same scene again.
My vision was once again engulfed by the dazzling light.
A lion-gold slashing light, exceeding the speed of sound, pierced the air—and my slash could not escape!
"Guga!?"
Instantly before my eyes, my powerful, heavy slash slammed into the ground, met head-on by the slashing light.
The explosive force of the blow was undeniable.
The difference in the execution of the moves was a world of difference, the outcome instantly clear.
Although most of the impact was offset, I was still defeated miserably, and was blown away along with the greatsword I was holding on to, falling backwards.
"Bell-senpai!?"
"Gu, wuwuwuwu...!?"
The healer girl rushed to my side, casting a healing spell.
My scarred skin, now tattered and tattered in an instant, began to heal rapidly.
A single blow, not even a direct hit, had inflicted such severe damage.
But...he still showed mercy!
That initial 'afterglow' had completely shattered the platform!
And the previous blow had, at best, only carved a deep crack in the ground! I wasn't completely annihilated!
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Base Leon's Afterglow is capable of easily overpowering Bell's 5 Minute Max Charge Argonaut and is deflected by Bell's 3 Minute Charge Grand Bell Argonaut. It took 4 Afterglows from Base Leon to overpower the 3 Minute Charge Grand Bell Argonaut
随后是五分钟。
「给我再来。」
结果不曾改变。
拼命伸出手指想要触及名为『残光』的绝技之真髓,却连其轮廓都无法摸到。
取而代之的,只有【英雄愿望】的输出不断攀升,却无一不被碾碎。
战斗服的一角崩裂,鲜血四溅,骨骼传来沉重的裂响声。
体力的回复、肉体的治愈、精神力的补充。要不是治疗师无私的献身,我早已力竭倒下。
终于,我敲响了大钟楼。
经过三分钟的蓄力,纯白闪光的重斩虽然依旧没能飞出,却成功挡下了骑士的斩光,并将之弹开。
本应如此。
如果骑士没有再次挥下战斧的话。
「────────────」
连击。
没什么好奇怪的。
既然是无需咏唱也没有蓄力的『纯粹斩击』,那连续挥出第二击和第三击本就是理所当然的。在派阀大战中,明明连续挨了两发【猛者】的『黄金斩光』,现在却把这点忘得一干二净了,这是我致命的疏忽。
就在我试图推回第一道斩光之际,第二道、第三道斩光紧随而至,而我尚能咬牙承受。
然而,当那前所未有的第四道斩光袭来之刻,大钟楼的一击终于被击溃了。
Five minutes passed.
"Come again."
The result remained unchanged.
I desperately stretched my fingers to grasp the essence of the ultimate technique called "Afterglow," but I couldn't even grasp its outline.
Instead, the output of [Argonaut] continued to climb, but every one of them was crushed.
A corner of my battle suit shattered, blood splattered, and a heavy cracking sound echoed from my bones.
Vital strength restored, my body healed, my spirit replenished. If it weren't for the healer's selfless dedication, I would have collapsed from exhaustion.
Finally, I struck the Grand Bell.
After three minutes of charging, the pure white flash of heavy slash still failed to fly, but it successfully blocked the knight's slashing light and deflected it.
It should have been this way.
If the knight hadn't swung his battle axe again.
"────────────"
Consecutive attack.
Nothing surprising there.
Since this was a 'Pure Slash' requiring no chanting or charge, it was only natural to deliver the second and third blows in quick succession. During the faction war, I'd taken two consecutive 'Golden Slashing Lights' from the 'Brave Warrior,' but now I'd completely forgotten this. This was my fatal oversight.
Just as I tried to push back the first slashing light, the second and third followed, and I managed to bear it.
However, when the unprecedented fourth slashing light struck, the Great Bell attack was finally defeated.
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Bell disperses the black clouds that enveloped the northern lands. This wouldn't been a rather decent feat to calc. But too bad this was done with a 5 Minute Max Charge Grand Bell Argo Vesta Afterglow which is at minimum a level 10 attack so this wouldn't even be useful for scaling or higher than the order of magnitude statements stacked on Bell's level 6 AP value.
庞大的炽烈炎光勾勒出斩光之形,直取巨龙震骇的眼瞳。
有别于骑士之光的『崭新光芒』,将不祥的邪龙一刀两断。
『嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷嗷──────!?』
百足龙在空中被拦腰斩断,掀起震耳欲聋的哀嚎。
烈火的咆哮将那临终的悲鸣吞噬,极焰沿断口蔓延至全身,所到之处,血肉皆化作灰烬,直至那颗『魔石』被灼热的火流触及,一朵绚烂至极的红莲之花猛然绽放。
灰烬如雪般四散飘落,而那讨灭恶龙的炎斩却仍未止息,径直冲入遮蔽北境的滚滚黑云。
浓重的漆黑应势而裂。
这片本应不见天日的『漆黑荒野』上,一缕耀眼的蔚蓝天光倾泻而下,宛如通向苍穹的天阶。
我与妮娜一同,出神地仰望着这束久违到令人怀念的美丽阳光,无法自已。
「……成功了。」
A vast, blazing flame, shaped like a slashing light, pierced the dragon's horrified eyes.
A 'new light,' distinct from the Knight's light, cleaved the ominous evil dragon in two.
"Ahhh! A ... Ashes fell like snow, but the dragon-slaying flames raged unabated, plunging straight into the rolling black clouds that enveloped the northern border.
The thick darkness shattered.
From this supposedly dark wilderness, a dazzling ray of azure light poured down, like a stairway to the heavens.
Nina and I gazed up at this long-missed, beautiful sunlight, unable to contain ourselves.
"...Success."
Chapter 4: Knight Afterglow

Sword Oratoria Volume 15

Current level 5 Bell is comparable to Level 6 Base Aiz and possesses higher strength than her
没有丝毫的防守!完全不打算观察情况!他竟然能持续压迫着身为【剑姬】的自己!!
(好厉害!)
在交错闪烁的暗紫刀光中,艾丝的内心深处正在热烈喝彩。
(好厉害!!)
那个当初稚嫩无比,甚至连冒险者都算不上的Lv.1男孩子。
经过这短暂的岁月后,竟能迫使达到Lv.6的第一级冒险者与他拼得『旗鼓相当』。
这也太惊人了。简直令人难以置信。在艾丝看来,这就是千真万确的『未知』。
最重要的是,此刻的他正将『当下的一切』毫无保留地倾泻而出。
如同弟子向师父展现自身的成长一般,他使出浑身解数,将至今为止培养起的一切猛烈地叩向艾丝。
侧击武器使其偏转。那是艾丝教他的『技巧』。
在每个瞬息间布下破绽,引诱对手使出致命一击。这是艾丝传授的『战术』。
一切的一切都令她──。
(──好开心!)
一抹小小的笑容浮现在艾丝嘴角,只是还未等少年察觉,就掩盖在了激烈的攻防之中。
在少年的眼中,少女(艾丝)的双眸也许只闪过一抹『惊愕』。可事实上,那分明是『欢欣』。
「!!!」
「!!!」
似乎是在指责少年的斩击逐渐变得粗暴,艾丝将他的匕首向一旁弹开,而下一刹那──他顺势旋转身体。
以左脚为轴心,将紧握匕首的右手化为离心力的加速装置,少年卷起了漩涡。
弹开一击的艾丝也如同镜像般,卷起飞舞的长发,化作金色的旋风。
双方同时使出上段回旋踢。
「!?」
靴子厚实的踵部爆发出激烈碰撞,最后占上风的──是贝尔!
艾丝的心底掀起今日来最强烈的震惊。
攻势中叠加的速度加成固然不可忽视,但真正决定胜负的,却是纯粹的能力值差。
比起Lv.6的艾丝,Lv.5的贝尔『力量』更胜一筹!
No defense at all! No attempt to observe the situation! He could actually keep suppressing me, the Sword Princess!
(Amazing!)
Amidst the intersecting, flickering, dark purple blades, Ais cheered passionately in her heart.
(Amazing!)
That Level 1 boy, so immature back then, barely even an adventurer.
After all these brief years, he could actually force a Level 6, first-tier adventurer, to fight him on equal terms.
This was astonishing. It was almost unbelievable. To Ais, this was the absolute "unknown."
Most importantly, at this moment, he was pouring out "everything he had in the present moment" without reservation.
Like a disciple demonstrating his growth to his master, he unleashed every ounce of his energy, fiercely hurling everything he had cultivated at Ais.
Deflecting the weapon with a flank attack. That was the "technique" Ais had taught him.
Creating flaws in every moment, baiting the opponent for a fatal blow. That was the "tactics" Ais had taught him.
Everything about it made her—
(—So happy!)
A small smile played on Ais's lips, but before the boy could notice, it was hidden by the fierce attack and defense.
To the boy, the girl's (Ais's) eyes might have only flashed with "surprise." But in reality, they were clearly filled with "joy." "!!!!"
"!!!!"
As if rebuking the boy's increasingly brutal slashes, Ais deflected his dagger to the side, and the next moment—he spun with it.
Using his left foot as the axis, he transformed his right hand, gripping the dagger, into a centrifugal accelerator, creating a vortex.
Mirror image, Ais, having deflected the blow, whipped her long, flowing hair into a golden whirlwind.
Both sides simultaneously unleashed an upper spin kick.
"!?"
The thick heels of their boots clashed fiercely, and in the end, it was Bell who prevailed!
Ai's heart was filled with the greatest shock of the day.
The added speed bonus from the attack was certainly not negligible, but the true difference in stats was the difference in pure ability.
Compared to Level 6 Ais, Level 5 Bell possessed a superior "Strength"!
Chapter 2: The Return of the Rabbit Man

Ariel boosts Aiz's stats by a whole level
(要不试试……我的魔法(风灵疾走)?)
──那怎么行呢。
心中的幼女(小不点艾丝)双手举着『反对暴力』的牌子,气呼呼地抗议。
即便往保守地说,【风灵疾走】也依然算得上凶狠无比。一旦使出来,艾丝的能力说是整整提升一个等级也不为过,而且不仅如此,就连斩击的锋锐与速度都会因狂风之力而变得更为凌厉。
(How about trying... my magic (Ariel)?)
—How can that be possible?
The little girl in my mind (Little Ais) held up a sign that read "No to Violence" in both hands, protesting angrily.
Even to be conservative, Wind Sprint was still incredibly ferocious. Once used, Ais's abilities would be elevated by one whole level. Furthermore, the sharpness and speed of her slashes were intensified by the force of the gust of wind.
Chapter 2: The Return of the Rabbit Man

Aiz w/ Ariel + Avenger is believed to be capable of outperforming level 7 Riveria who can output level 8 magic. Thus confirming that Avenger is essentially another level boost.
魔法驱动的『狂风』之力既强大又万能,在人造迷宫的战斗中也曾多次救下过格瑞斯他们。更重要的是,艾丝的能力构成──稀有技能【复仇姬】──在迷宫攻略中极为强大。尽管绝不能滥用,但在『对怪持久战』这一点上可以说甚至比达到Lv.7的里维莉亚一行 更胜一筹。艾丝的存在堪称是最终王牌,因此对【洛基眷族】而言,若是把她留在家中不带去,那无异于舍弃传说之剑去挑战魔王。
The magically driven "Wind" is both powerful and versatile, having saved Grace and the others numerous times during battles in the artificial labyrinth. More importantly, Ais's ability—the rare skill "Avenger"—is extremely powerful in labyrinth clearing. While it should never be abused, it arguably outperforms even Level 7 Riveria and her group in terms of "sustained battles against monsters." Ais's presence is truly their ultimate trump card, and for the Loki Familia, leaving her behind would be tantamount to abandoning the legendary sword to challenge the Demon King.
Chapter 3: Underworld

The 59th floor used to be an absolute zero floor.
眼前的景象宛如密林一般,布满了诡异的植被与草木。这里本应是被称作『冰河领域』的绝对零度楼层,但或许是受到『污秽仙精』的影响,整片环境已经完全变样。关于这点,他们在上次『远征』中也已确认过了。
The scene before them resembled a dense forest, filled with strange vegetation and plants. This was supposed to be the Absolute Zero Floor known as the "Glacier Realm," but perhaps due to the influence of the "Corrupted Spirit," the entire environment had been completely altered. They had already confirmed this during their previous "expedition."
Chapter 3: Underworld

The Corrupted Spirit terraformed the entire 59th floor and likely the 60th floor as well
「我说说我的看法。『污秽仙精』的本体很可能就潜伏在60层。」
「「「「!」」」」
「就算存在误差,最多也只有一层。否则的话,它不可能让如此广阔的深层区域整个都发生翻天覆地的变化。毕竟,要是能远程构筑『领土』的话,那也未免太过超乎常理……更何况,除了59层以外其他区域都没有受到影响,若果真如此,那这点就实在令人费解。」
"Let me explain my guesses. The true form of the 'Corrupted Spirit' is likely lurking on the 60th floor."
""""!""""
"Even if there's a discrepancy, it's likely only one floor at most. Otherwise, it wouldn't be able to cause such a vast, deep area to undergo such drastic changes. After all, remotely constructing a 'territory' is incredibly unrealistic... Furthermore, aside from the 59th floor, no other area has been affected. If that's the case, then it's truly puzzling."
Chapter 3: Underworld

Venomsky Demi Spirit is stronger than the Titan Alm Demi Spirit from Floor 59
『毒空百足龙』。
能匹敌Lv.7的龙之怪物。
「不仅如此……那家伙好像也被『寄生』了」
芬恩将罗伊曼提供的公会文献与视野前方的存在对照比较,立刻察觉到了那个『异物』。
龙流出瀑布般的唾液,不断扭动着躯体,随即开始『变异』。
伴随着“咯吱咯吱”的声响,埋藏在头部的巨大『球体』露了出来。
紧接着,如同化蛹成蝶的蝴蝶一般,作为『异物』的『巨大女体』从中涌现。
『啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!』
「『仙精分身』!」
看到从龙的头部诞生的不祥的『女体』,蕾菲亚等人叫出了那个名字。
细长的身躯优雅地舞动于空间上空,最为贴切的形容就是『展翅高飞的龙女』。虽然两者的大小与散发的魔力都相差悬殊。
「她抓住了更下层领域的怪物,然后嵌入了『宝珠胎儿』吗……?」
劳尔接受了眼前的现实,一边擦汗一边说道。
这不言自明的强敌,肯定比第59层交战过的『仙精分身』要强得多。首先,被寄生的怪物在力量层级上就差远了。
过去艰难取胜的强敌,在这『魔界』里面只是寻常关卡。
这一事实让纳尔薇等人倒吸一口凉气。
Venomsky.
A dragon monster rivaling a Level 7.
"Not only that...it seems to be 'parasitized' too."
Finn compared the guild documents Royman provided with the object in front of his vision and immediately spotted the 'foreign entity'.
The dragon saliva flowed like a waterfall, its body twisting and turning, and it began to 'mutate'.
With a crackling sound, the massive 'sphere' buried within its head was revealed.
And then, like a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis, the 'foreign entity', the 'giant female body', emerged from it.
"Ah ...
"Demi Spirit!"
Seeing the ominous "female form" emerging from the dragon's head, Lefiya and the others called out its name.
The slender figure danced gracefully through the air, the most apt description being "a soaring dragon girl." Though the difference in size and emanating magical power between the two was vast.
"Did she capture a monster from a lower floor and embed it within the 'Gem Embryo'...?"
Raul, accepting the reality before him, said as he wiped his sweat.
This formidable foe was undoubtedly far more formidable than the 'Demi Spirit' they had fought on the 59th floor. Firstly, the possessed monster was far inferior in power.
The powerful foes they had once painstakingly defeated were now mere hurdles in this 'Underworld'.
This realization caused Narvi and the others to gasp.
Chapter 3: Underworld

The NIdhogg Demi-Spirit was likely also a monster captured from the floor below 60 like the Venomsky. So Nidhogg Demi Spirit even without stealing the magic of the other six Knossos Demi Spirit is considered to be more powerful than the Titan Alm Demi Spirit from Floor 59.
因此最长可达『十五年』。
在这漫长的岁月中,『污秽仙精』将这一楼层改造成了自身的后花园。从母体迷宫诞生,爬上楼层,威胁和侵略『仙精』地盘的怪物想必络绎不绝。
而如今,这『魔界』想必已坚不可摧,稳固到了足以抵御下层侵略的程度。若以费尔斯刚才提及的『威胁程度』来衡量,这第60层的难度与凶险,甚至可能已经超越了其下方的楼层。60这个数字,正逐渐变成误导冒险者的一个指标。
──人造迷宫决战中,劳尔最后看见的『龙』的仙精分身。
──那或许也是在第60层以下的地方捕获的个体吧。
正如这只『毒空百足龙』一样。
Therefore, it took up to fifteen years.
Over these long years, the "Corrupted Spirit" transformed this floor into their own private garden. Monsters emerging from the Mother Labyrinth and climbing up the floors to threaten and invade the Spirit's territory must have been endless.
Now, this "Underworld" must be impenetrable, secure enough to withstand invasions from the lower levels. Judging by the "threat level" mentioned by Fels, the difficulty and danger of the 60th floor may even surpass those below it. The number 60 is increasingly becoming a misleading indicator for adventurers.
--The "Dragon" Demi Spirit, Raul saw last during the final battle in the artificial labyrinth.
--Perhaps it was also captured below the 60th floor.
Just like this "Venomsky."
Chapter 3: Underworld

The Dragon Demi Spirit is estimated to be level 8 in terms of destructive power
无数的『大魔法阵』,把『龙』的仙精分身四处肆虐,宛如世界末日的战场,团团包围。柱子、天花板、地板,甚至半空,都假设着大量炮台,让梅露娜等【芙蕾雅眷族】的精灵们大为惊恐。
单论纯粹的破坏力,推定Lv.8以上的『仙精分身』已是个巨大的威胁,而这穷凶极恶的迷宫确赶尽杀绝似的持续反射着惊天动地一般的巨量火炮。火、冰、雷、光、暗,属性各异的炮击无差别地试图歼灭芬恩、里维莉亚等人。而【洛基眷族】的那些人,至今仍在不断防守着。
大型精灵旗精准无误地对冲着倾盆暴雨般的炮火。但防御只是最终手段,首先要阻止的是炮击本身。大魔法阵从虚空中出现到炮击,最快要3秒,就在这短暂的时间内,【超凡夫】等的支援者们向四面八方发射『魔剑』,准确破坏大魔法阵,使其哑火。
Countless "Great Magic Circles" ravaged the "Dragon" Demi Spirit, surrounding them like a battlefield at the end of the world. Pillars, ceilings, floors, and even the air were imbued with imaginary artillery batteries, terrifying Meluna and the other elves of the "Freya Familia."
In terms of sheer destructive power alone, the "Demi Spirit," estimated to be at least Level 8, posed a formidable threat. This monstrous labyrinth, with its sheer force, continuously reflected the earth-shattering barrage of artillery fire. Fire, ice, lightning, light, and darkness—bombardments of various attributes indiscriminately attempted to annihilate Finn, Riveria, and the others. Meanwhile, those of the "Loki Familia" continued to defend.
Large elven flags accurately countered the torrential barrage. But defense was only a last resort; the bombardment itself had to be stopped. It takes at least 3 seconds for the large magic circle to appear in the void and be fired. In this short period of time, the supporters such as the [High Novice] launch "Magic Swords" in all directions, accurately destroying the large magic circle and making it silence.
Chapter 3: Underworld

Level 7 Riveria's Rea Laeveteinn heavily injured the Dragon Demi Spirit as well as hurt the Corrupted Spirit
「【高等·胜利之剑】」
静谧而庄严的宣告,伴随着庞大魔力的回响,宣示而出。
燃尽嘲笑的业火降临于世。
『────啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!?』
无数的红莲肆意绽放。
试图吞噬艾丝的肉块,阻隔蒂奥娜她们的柱体,无一例外地被全部燃尽。从脚下展开的超巨大魔法阵中,一道炎柱如同逆流的大瀑布一般喷涌而出——这个Lv.7的『都市最强魔导士』的全包围歼灭魔法,让『仙精分身』发出惨叫。
艾丝继幻视之后,又产生了幻听。
重叠在『仙精分身』惨叫之上的,是『污秽仙精(Game Master)』凄厉的悲鸣。
宛如一个在烈火包围下保护孩子的母亲一样。
「这招已经腻了」
令敌我双方都为之战栗的里维莉亚,放下了举起的魔杖《伟大精灵》,发出宣告。
「在人造迷宫里已经充分领教过你们的战略(手段)了。别以为还能再次奏效」
以最硬金属打造的『门』来分隔队伍。
以及化为『祭坛』、试图构建『生祭』的『魔城人造迷宫』里的绿肉泛滥。
里维莉亚她们早已将这些曾多次让自己陷入绝境的阴谋与杀招,化为『已知』。
因此,『已知』已无法对她们通用。
「另外,还有一句话」
这Lv.7的全包围歼灭魔法,称之为『对迷宫制压魔法』也不为过。
通过巨大的魔法阵识别敌我的业火柱群,未给呆在原地的蒂奥娜等人带来一丝伤害,只精准地焚烧着『仙精分身』、流动的绿肉以及炫彩色的怪物们。
这个异样且如梦如幻的绿色空间,已然化作了毫无慈悲的火炎之地。
"Rea Laeveteinn"
A quiet yet solemn proclamation, echoing with immense magical power, was proclaimed.
The inferno that consumed all mockery descended upon the world.
"Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Countless crimson lotuses blossomed wildly.
The pillars that attempted to devour Ais's flesh and block Diona and the others were all incinerated without exception. From the immense magic circle unfolding beneath his feet, a column of flame erupted like a cascade flowing backwards—this Level 7 "City's Strongest Mage"'s all-encompassing annihilation spell caused the "Demi Spirit" to scream.
Following the visual hallucinations, Ais experienced auditory hallucinations.
Overlapping the "Spirit Clone's" screams was the shrill wail of the "Corrupted Spirit (Game Master)."
Like a mother protecting her child amidst a raging fire.
"I'm tired of this trick."
Calling both enemies and friends tremble, Livilia lowered her raised wand, the Great Spirit, and declared.
"I've already seen your tactics fully in the artificial labyrinth. Don't think they'll work again."
"Gates made of the hardest metal separated the teams."
And the green flesh that overran the "Demonic Castle Artificial Labyrinth," transformed into an "altar" attempting a "living sacrifice."
Riveria and the others had long since made these schemes and lethal tactics that had repeatedly put them in dire straits "known."
Thus, "known" no longer applied to them.
"Also, one more thing."
This Level 7 all-encompassing annihilation magic could be called "labyrinth suppression magic." The pillars of hellfire, discerning friend and foe through a vast magic circle, inflicted no harm to Tiona and the others who remained where they were, only precisely incinerating the "Demi Spirits," the flowing green flesh, and the dazzlingly colored monsters.
This strange, dreamlike green space had transformed into a land of merciless flames.
Chapter 3: Underworld

The Corrupted Spirit can control the entire 60th floor
「同感。或许是因为整个楼层都被『污秽仙精』的意志所控制,芬恩团长已经将对方的行动全部看穿了。这样的话,反倒是完全搞不懂在想什么的地下城更加诡异和棘手」
"I agree. Perhaps because the entire floor is controlled by the will of the 'Filthy Fairy', Captain Finn has seen through all their actions. If that's the case, then this dungeon, where I have no idea what they're thinking, is even more bizarre and difficult to navigate."
Chapter 4: The Prophecy of the End of the World

Creature Aura is even weaker than the level 4 supporters that are with the expedition force
对于『污秽仙精』而言也是如此。
派出这样一名『连刺客都算不上的刺客』,究竟有何意义?
因为,那个自称为『第七个』的芮薇丝,很弱。
是在这『魔界』的生物中,最弱的存在。
作为宿主的『奥拉·莫里埃尔』,肉体强度终究只有Lv.2。
就算适配的容器只有那个精灵少女,也未免太过贫弱了。
虽然知道怪人化后,神的眷族会获得更强韧的肉体,但即使算上那份强化,她还是不足以胜任这个角色。
或许是灵魂与容器的要花时间去互相适应,看现在这样子,恐怕连魔石都没能好好吸收吧。
与将『强化种』锻炼到极致的上一个芮薇丝的存在感截然不同。
完全无法相提并论。由第一级冒险者(芬恩等人)出手,眨眼间就能秒杀。
根本不足为据,只是浪费时间的的存在。
The same goes for the "Corrupted Spirit."
What's the point of sending out an "assassin who's barely even an assassin"?
Because that self-proclaimed "Seventh" Revis is weak.
She's the weakest of all the creatures in this "Underworld."
The host, "Aura Moriel," only has a physical strength of Level 2 after all.
Even if the elf girl is the only suitable vessel, she's still far too weak.
While it's known that after becoming a monster, the God's followers gain stronger bodies, even with that boost, she's still not up to the task.
Perhaps it takes time for the soul and vessel to adapt to each other. Judging from her current state, she probably hasn't even absorbed the magic stone properly.
Her presence is completely different from that of the previous Revis, who had cultivated the "Enhanced Species" to the extreme.
There's no comparison. A first-level adventurer (Finn and the others) could kill her in the blink of an eye. There is no evidence at all, it's just a waste of time.
Chapter 4: The Prophecy of the End of the World

Level 7 Finn's Tir Na Nog was going to one shot and kill the Corrupted Spirit even after it absorbed Aiz and gained Ariel. It pierced through the Corrupted Spirit and reached the 59th floor even after the Corrupted Spirit used all of its mind as well as the entire 60th floor as energy to the point of collapsing the entire floor on top of Aiz's Ariel and a seven element layered magic to block it.
「【提尔纳诺】!!」
使出全力的『投枪魔法』。
『————————————————————————』
芬恩将自身能力值全部转化为威力的杀手锏,将无数的少女(艾丝)卷入其中,直接冲向了位于上方的『污秽仙精』。
『————不要啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!?』
面对袭来的黄金巨枪,『污秽仙精』第一次预感到了自己的死亡,发出惨叫,将双臂向前推出,施展了具备风、炎、冰、雷、土、光、暗的全属性的魔法阵。
冲击。
贯穿。
穿刺,危机。
一层、两层、三层、四层、五层——『长枪』势不可挡地突飞猛进。
仙精的瞪大了双眼,额头的第三只眼与『大脑』的独眼也爆满了血丝。
凶猛的枪尖与化为大屏障的七重魔法阵相撞,产生了耀眼的光柱。
势均力敌已不被容许。
第六层被贯穿。
面对最后一层的救命稻草,『污秽仙精』命悬一线,本能地发出悲鸣,并不得不对其注入了自身的全部魔力。
『魔界』比『污秽仙精』本体率先发出了哀鸣,产生了巨大的冲击与震动,然后开始崩坏。
「啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!」
被卷入的艾丝自身那强大的『风』全部都被转化为魔力,产生了敌我不分的毁灭性爆炸风浪,冲击着劳尔与蕾菲亚等人。
不明分说的强大冲击波把他们吹向了大空间之外。
几乎同时,大空间的地面崩塌了。
地面底层崩塌,包含施展魔法的芬恩在内,第一级冒险者们纷纷落入了不断扩张的黑暗深渊。
「——劳尔!去吧!!」
「!!」
然后,在视野被炫彩的光芒染尽,几乎什么也看不见的瞬间,劳尔听到了。
即便从大空间被吹飞,但同时也清晰可闻地,听到了勇者的『托付之声』。
『————啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!』
『污秽仙精』发出高亢的咆哮,伸出双臂四处挥舞。
紧接着,被强烈的狂风缠住的『长枪』微微偏离了准心。
瞬息之后,『长枪』刺穿了所有魔法阵,疾驰的枪轨剜穿了『污秽仙精』左手以及左肩。
『长枪』所刺之处产生了壮绝的光之飞沫,乃至形成了光之洪水,『长枪』就那样刺穿了『魔界』的上方,突入到第59层。
占据天花板的『大脑』,也被削去了一部分。
大量的血液与脑浆四处飞散,布满血丝的独眼发出凄惨的尖叫。
『啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!?』
Lv.7的必杀技,给予了『魔界』致命损伤。
仙精朝着头顶尖叫着,与此同时,紫肉也如雪崩般塌落下来。寄生的立柱接连倒塌,少女(艾丝)们与潜伏在黑暗中的怪物们也一并被压碎。
劳尔等人被打落到大空间之外的地面上翻滚,起身之时,眼前只剩下已经崩坏的『魔界』。
"[Tir Na Nog]!!"
He unleashed his full-strength [Javelin Magic].
"————————————————————————"
Finn channeled all of his stats into a powerful killer move, engulfing countless girls (Ais) and charging directly at the [Filthy Fairy] above.
"————Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?"
Facing the incoming golden spear, the "Corrupted Spirit" sensed its own mortality for the first time. With a scream, it thrust its arms forward, unleashing a magic circle possessing the attributes of wind, fire, ice, thunder, earth, light, and darkness.
Impact.
Piercing.
Piercing, peril.
One, two, three, four, five—the "Lance" surged forward with unstoppable force.
The Spirit's eyes widened, the third eye on its forehead and the single eye in its "brain" bloodshot.
The fierce spear tip collided with the seven-layered magic circle that had become a massive barrier, unleashing a dazzling beam of light.
Equal power was no longer acceptable.
The sixth layer was pierced.
Facing its last remaining layer, the "Corrupted Spirit" clung to its fate, instinctively wailing and forced to pour all its magic power into it. The Underworld wailed before the Corrupted Spirit itself, creating a massive shockwave and tremor before collapsing.
"Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"
The powerful "wind" of Ais, caught in the trap, was completely transformed into magical power, creating a devastating explosion that indiscriminately affected Raul, Lefiya, and the others.
The inexplicably powerful shockwave blew them out of the vast space.
Almost instantly, the ground within the vast space collapsed.
The lower ground collapsed, and the first-level adventurers, including Finn, who had cast his magic, fell into the ever-expanding abyss of darkness.
"—Raul! Go!!"
"!!"
And then, in the moment when his vision was smothered by a dazzling light, almost blinding him, Raul heard something.
Even as he was blown away from the vast space, he could clearly hear the hero's "voice of entrustment."
"—Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"
The Corrupted Spirit roared, stretching out its arms and waving them.
Then, caught in the fierce wind, its spear shifted slightly from its aim.
In an instant, the spear pierced through all the magic circles, its trajectory piercing the Corrupted Spirit's left hand and shoulder.
Where the spear pierced, a magnificent spray of light erupted, forming a flood of light. The spear pierced through the upper reaches of the Underworld, penetrating the 59th floor.
A portion of the "brain" that occupied the ceiling was also shattered.
A large amount of blood and brain matter splattered everywhere, and the bloodshot, single-eyed creature screamed miserably.
"—Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"
The Level 7 ultimate technique inflicted fatal damage to the Underworld.
The spirit screamed overhead, and at the same moment, purple flesh collapsed like an avalanche. The parasitic pillars collapsed one after another, crushing the girls (Ais) and the monsters lurking in the darkness.
Raul and the others were thrown to the ground outside the vast space, tumbling. When they rose, all they saw was the shattered Underworld.
Chapter 4: The Prophecy of the End of the World

And with this I'm all caught up with the series in its entirety. I'll go write down a scaling sometime later today.
 
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haven't read SO vol 14 nor FM vol 20 yet since these aren't localized in english yet but the cloud feat might be worth looking into regardless, it's still something Bell is capable of even if it takes him charging an attack for 5 minutes and and be in a condition where his falna is overflowing with his emotions for limit off to kick in, it still is something he can do by himself and with no external help so it would still be an important thing to note

anyway a few things I wanted to bring up, but about the geography of danmachi's continent, should we try and look for any way to find a size for it? bc as far as I can tell there's no real way to measure canyon sizes such as the Behemoth one or god forbid the Dim Tir na Nog one since there's really no real way to measure (the "current time" version of that crater doesn't really work when you remember the context that Lily was surprised to hear that the plain area they were in was a mountanous area and also that passage had to be large enough so the army that Alkittiene had could pass through and the "current version" is barely larger than the sidewalk of a road) and canyons don't have a "minimum size" irl for us to many any assumptions

the Alfia laws of nature thing just seens like flowery language to me

I do believe that's important but we can really only make so many speculations on which level A or B characters are, some are easier to guess than others but there's also some weird contradictions in how some characters that shouldn't scale end up scaling and that doesn't really make a lot of sense, like we might as well have a guide on our reasoning for what makes a character stronger or weaker than another bc following the logic can be a bit of a headache

and one final thing but should we look into the gameplay abilities/ultimate attack animations some characters had in memoria freese? there were some interesting like AR Ottar costume creating a massive shockwave that covered orario or Aedes Vesta Welf's magic sword dispersing cloud formations.
 
haven't read SO vol 14 nor FM vol 20 yet since these aren't localized in english yet but the cloud feat might be worth looking into regardless, it's still something Bell is capable of even if it takes him charging an attack for 5 minutes and and be in a condition where his falna is overflowing with his emotions for limit off to kick in, it still is something he can do by himself and with no external help so it would still be an important thing to note

anyway a few things I wanted to bring up, but about the geography of danmachi's continent, should we try and look for any way to find a size for it? bc as far as I can tell there's no real way to measure canyon sizes such as the Behemoth one or god forbid the Dim Tir na Nog one since there's really no real way to measure (the "current time" version of that crater doesn't really work when you remember the context that Lily was surprised to hear that the plain area they were in was a mountanous area and also that passage had to be large enough so the army that Alkittiene had could pass through and the "current version" is barely larger than the sidewalk of a road) and canyons don't have a "minimum size" irl for us to many any assumptions

the Alfia laws of nature thing just seens like flowery language to me

I do believe that's important but we can really only make so many speculations on which level A or B characters are, some are easier to guess than others but there's also some weird contradictions in how some characters that shouldn't scale end up scaling and that doesn't really make a lot of sense, like we might as well have a guide on our reasoning for what makes a character stronger or weaker than another bc following the logic can be a bit of a headache

and one final thing but should we look into the gameplay abilities/ultimate attack animations some characters had in memoria freese? there were some interesting like AR Ottar costume creating a massive shockwave that covered orario or Aedes Vesta Welf's magic sword dispersing cloud formations.
Doubt the cloud feat will be anything impressive for a level 10 attack when Behemoth Alternative’s storm cloud feat exist which scales to level 9s. Not to mention I don’t even think we have enough information to calc it cause I don’t think we have much information on the size of the various parts of the continent.

Alfia’s law of nature thing is probably talking about how she’s literally floating as she’s casting Genos Angelus. Showing that she’s literally breaking the natural law of humans not being able to fly/float via sheer magic power.

And yeah about the scaling part. I say we just scale the characters that are like level 2 to level 2 and level 3 to level 3. DanMachi mechanic works differently so we shouldn’t scale them to the next level just because they slightly harmed them. That is unless it’s explicitly stated that they can hit above their level via magic, skill, technique, or items.

Dunno if those could be used tbh. Also I’m pretty sure creating a shockwave that covers Orario is absolutely nothing for a level 7 like Beastified Ottar during AR. The Welf one though. It might be useful to scale Epimetheus but the main problem is can we even use those as scaling in the first place as those are just gameplay mechanics and not actual story feats.
 
alright, also I haven't seen the event yet but isn't there the danmemo x Date A Live crossover event that had some high multiverse ending story in it? I haven't seen it yet but idk could be fun to just get a look at it just to know, it wouldn't be canon but hey that's like, more powerful than the stats of either series from what I'm aware so it could be interesting
 
Don’t remember the full details about it that crossover. I just recall Aiz being capable of destroying the Lower World by using power equivalent to Arcanum in one of them. And how Argonaut literally has the power to summon other heroes and characters related to his story when summoned to present day.

Also this is the incomplete scaling I have so far for the characters in the series

DanMachi levels

Corrupted Flames = At least 5-B, possibly 5-A
(Overpowered Arcanum Boosted Grand Bell Argo Vesta which if it functioned the same was as levels it would be a 10,000x boost to a Deities’ Arcanum)

Deities = 5-B
(Can destroy the Lower World if they felt like it)

Primordial Flames = Possibly at most 5-B
(Described to be Demi-Arcanum and thus might have the power to destroy the world like normal Arcanum)

Level 12

Unrestricted Alfia w/ Genos Angelus
(Even after being weakened down to a level 4 Alfia’s Genos Angelus was still implied to be capable of one shotting Delphyne a level 7 Monster Rex. Implying that Genos Angelus is at least a +3 level boost. One shot Leviathan)

Level 11+, likely way higher

Corrupted Flames Epimetheus w/ Elgus Pandora
(A Limit Off technique and is thus at least one level higher than normal)

Level 10+, likely way higher

Corrupted Flames Epimetheus
(Capable of defeating the Black Dragon)

Present Day Black Dragon
(Far stronger than it was 1000 years ago)

Primordial Flames Epimetheus w/ Elgus Pandora
(A Limit Off technique and is thus at least one level higher than normal)

Level 10

Past Black Dragon
(Killed Albert)

Albert
(Stated by WoG to be superior to Dim’s Tir Na Nog)

Dim’s Tir Na Nog
(One shot Black Balor and tore a hole through the canyon all the way to the Great Hole. Stated by WoG to be the strongest attack of the Age of Heroes prior to Albert and is thus stronger than Primordial Flames Epimetheus)

Level 7 Finn’s Tir Na Nog
(Was going to one shot the Corrupted Spirit even after it absorbed Aiz and gained Ariel. Pierced through the Corrupted Spirit and reached the 59th floor even after the Corrupted Spirit used all its mind as well as the entire 60th floor as energy to the point of collapsing the entire floor on top of Aiz’s Ariel and a seven element layered magic to block it)

Level 5 Bell’s Grand Bell Argonaut
(At least 1 level higher than the normal Max Charge Argonaut)

Level 6 Aiz w/ Ariel + Avenger (Against Black Dragons)
(Can reach up to 4 levels higher when facing black dragon type monsters)

Zald w/ Deus Ambrosia + Rea Ambrosia
(One shot Behemoth)

Level 7 Beastified Ottar w/ Hildis Vini
(Should be one level higher than Base Ottar w/ Hildis Vini)

Level 7 Leon w/ Blaze of Round (Max Enhancement)
(Should be superior to Beastified Ottar w/ Hildis Vini as he’s stated to be the strongest offense compared to Ottar’s defense)

Level 9

Primordial Flames Epimetheus
(Stated by Zeus to be an enemy that would require the full force of Zeus Familia and Hera Familia to defeat and is thus at least comparable to the Three Great Quests. Effortlessly offset Black Balor’s attack with his flames and destroyed the entire monster army. Erased an entire island off the map with his magic)

Nidhogg
(Remained undefeated by any ancient heroes and had to be defeated by Heaven’s Gate, a ritual that calls upon the power of Heaven which is close in strength to a god and should thus at least be on par with the Three Great Quests)

Behemoth
(Superior to Behemoth Alternative who created a thick cloud far larger than Orario and reached from the sky to the ground)

Leviathan
(Comparable to Behemoth as one of the Three Great Quests)

Antares
(A Black Monster that was spawned alongside Behemoth and Leviathan and is thus comparable to them)

Corrupted Spirit w/ Ariel
(At least 1 level higher than before due to Ariel being a level boost)

Empress
(A level 9 adventurer. Capable of offsetting thousands of attacks from Leviathan)

Maxim
(Stated to be the strongest adventurer and is thus at least comparable to Empress. Stopped Leviathan’s charge all by himself)

Unrestricted Alfia
(Stated by WoG to have a chance to win against Empress)

Zald w/ Deus Ambrosia or Rea Ambrosia
(Can reach up to level 9 in power)

Level 5 Bell’s Max Charge Argonaut
(At least 3 levels higher than his base stat)

Level 7 Base Ottar w/ Hildis Vini
(Matched Bell’s 5 Minute Max Charge Argonaut)

Level 7 Leon w/ Blaze of Round
(Superior to Base Ottar w/ Hildis Vini)

Level 7 Riveria w/ Rea Laeveteinn or Vas Windheim
(Outputs level 9 magic)

Level 8

Corrupted Spirit
(Far stronger than the Demi Spirits)

Venomsky Demi Spirit
(Stated to have destructive power equivalent to a level 8)

Nidhogg Demi Spirit
(Implied to be superior to the Titan Alm Demi Spirit and grew even stronger by absorbing the magic of the other six Knossos Demi Spirit)

Black Balor
(At least one level higher than the normal Balor)

Level 6 Aiz w/ White Wind Ariel
(One shot Crimson Flesh Armor Revis)

Level 6 Aiz w/ Ariel + Avenger
(Stated to be more powerful than Level 7 Riveria’s firepower and effortlessly stomped Base Revis)

Level 7 Finn w/ Hell Finnegas
(Reaches level 8 due to Hell Finnegas being a level boost)

Level 7 Riveria w/ Wynn Fimbulvetr
(Outputs level 8 magic)

Possibly Level 7 Gareth
(Gareth has consistently shown the ability to fight one level above his actual level)

Level 6 Beastified Bete w/ Hati
(Stated to be the strongest member of Loki Familia when using both Beastification and Hati as a level 5 when the Loki Trio was only level 6 with abilities that can reach level 7)

Merged Filvis Magic
(Superior to Crimson Flesh Armor Revis)

Crimson Flesh Armor Revis
(Comparable to Tempest-Avenger Aiz)

Titan Alm Demi Spirit Magic
(Comparable to Merged Filvis’s Magic)

Restricted Alfia
(Possesses the power of a level 7 mage aka a level 8. Stated to be comparable to Zald)

Zald
(Stated by WoG to be Zeus Familia’s equivalent of Gareth and should thus be level 8 in terms of strength)

Level 7 Beastified Ottar
(Gives him a level boost to 8)

Likely Level 7 Leon
(Is the strongest dwarf alive and thus likely has the ability to fight 1 level above his actual level like Gareth and Mia)

Level 6 Allen w/ Gralineze Fromel
(Would’ve forced Ottar to use Beastification to survive)

Level 7

Merged Filvis
(Stronger than Level 7 Base Revis)

Level 7 Base Revis
(Stronger than Level 7 Base Ottar)

Level 7 Base Ottar
(Peak of level 7)

Level 7 Leon
(Peak of level 7)

Level 6 Mia
(Capable of fighting on par with Level 7 Base Ottar)

Titan Alm Demi Spirit
(Stronger than the Power Bull and Knossos Demi Spirits)

Knossos Demi Spirits
(Capable of destroying Orario)

Power Bull Demi Spirit
(Far stronger than Level 6 Gareth)

Level 7 Finn
(Is a level 7)

Level 7 Riveria
(Is a mage but still a level 7 nonetheless)

Level 6 Aiz w/ Ariel
(Ariel is a level boost enchantment)

Level 6 Beastified Bete
(Stated to be comparable to a level boost and is capable of defeating Aiz w/ Ariel)

Level 6 Tiona w/ Berserk + Intense Heat
(Can surpass level 6 Gareth in strength and easily dice apart Gugalanna at max enhancement)

Level 6 Tione w/ Berserk + Backdraft
(Can become comparable to level 6 Gareth at max enhancement)

Level 4 Lefiya w/ Rea Laeveteinn or Vas Windheim
(Capable of outputting level 6 magic normally while Rea Laeveteinn and Vas Windheim hits 1 level above the user’s actual level)

Level 6



Level 5



Level 4



Level 3



Level 2



Level 1
 
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don't really agree with Alfia being this high, both narrative wise as well as according to Omori on Twitter, neither Alfia nor Zard are on Albert's level yet (I'm fine with everythign regarding the corrupted flames and such, the story makes clear that they were gonna kill the black dragon)

I'm fine with the rest (tough it's hard to keep up on what boost is considered what but tbh some of the order within the levels are kinda interchengable), maybe Ryuu with Agaris Alvesynth you can make the argument to be a top level 6 (it's not as strong as Ais Ariel but it's still a decent power)
 
don't really agree with Alfia being this high, both narrative wise as well as according to Omori on Twitter, neither Alfia nor Zard are on Albert's level yet (I'm fine with everythign regarding the corrupted flames and such, the story makes clear that they were gonna kill the black dragon)

I'm fine with the rest (tough it's hard to keep up on what boost is considered what but tbh some of the order within the levels are kinda interchengable), maybe Ryuu with Agaris Alvesynth you can make the argument to be a top level 6 (it's not as strong as Ais Ariel but it's still a decent power)
Mages have always been capable of hitting a level above their actual level even with the lowest DA Mage Rank of I. And Alfia is the strongest mage we have seen ever with DA Mage Rank of C.

Omori has stated that Alfia is capable of defeating Empress and didn’t specifically say she can only do so with a skill like he did with Zald only being able to beat Maxim with Deus Ambrosia. Thus implying that Alfia’s output is in fact capable of reaching the point where she can hurt and potentially defeat a level 9 Empress if she plays her card right.

And Alfia being capable of potentially defeating Empress can’t be referring to her Genos Angelus as the statement was made by Omori during Astrea Record Part 1 which never mentioned the existence of that magic existing. Not to mention in a 1v1 you can’t use that against an enemy whose speed and physical strength is like two full levels above you (Level 7 speed vs Level 9 speed).

So Omori’s statement has to be referring to Alfia having an output of a level 9 with her magic just like how Lefiya can output magic 2 levels higher than her supposed level. But that’s it. Only her magic can potentially scale up to a level 9 and nothing else. Her speed, defense and stuff is still only at that of a level 7. So Alfia’s a huge glass cannon.

And about Albert. I’m also really not sure where exactly to rank him in the grand scheme of things tbh. Cause based on the statement Aiz made in Astrea Record, Albert and his party should only be around the level of Restricted Alfia (a Level 8). But narrative wise it’s clearly implied that Albert should be wayyyyyy stronger than they are.

So either Albert only possesses the strength of a level 8 in Base and can amp himself to that of level 10 with some kind of spirit boost and reaches an even higher level with a some kind of ultimate technique that’s potentially even higher than Genos Angelus. Or he’s just naturally at least at level 10 with a single move that’s way higher than just level 10 that’s still unknown how powerful it is.

Though if we go with the latter route this would mean the Black Dragon even 1000 years ago is like a level god damn 12 at minimum. Which wouldn’t really make sense as Zeus who’s been watching the Lower World since Argonaut believed the Zeus and Hera Familia even after losing Zald and Alfia to Behemoth and Leviathan has a chance at slaying the Black Dragon. Which we later learned in SO13 they underestimated it as the Dragon got much stronger over the course of 1000 years.

Also I haven’t gotten to listing the level 6s yet. Haven’t even finished with the level 7s and higher either as the various ancient heroes that are level 7 and higher exist. There’s like way more characters that can hit above their level than I thought when I made the list.
 
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again the issue is that you need to take into account that the narrative itself that makes it clear that no adventurer is on Albert's ball park yet, I don't think finding out what level a character is or should be is as important as what the story and the author themselves wants to convey, specially just breaks a lot of narrative to say "oh yeah Alfia completely alone with this one spell was actually stronger than the black dragon this whole time". it just doesn't work for the context of the actual narrative
 
I already said I know. But right now there's no evidence of Genos Angelus scaling to anyone as of right now. Like you do realize you need to have actual evidence to scale characters to a tier on this site right? We can't just say they scale because narrative says otherwise even when there's no evidence. Alfia never even participated in the battle against the Black Dragon due to her disease so we don't know how it would interact with the stronger present day black dragon. So right now Genos Angelus is in a completely weird position where it shouldn't be above the top tiers but its the only move with evidence that scales that high while the other top tiers are just unknown outside of being way stronger than the others. Albert, Epimetheus, and the Black Dragon will just have those tiers as a bare minimum rating along with a possible far higher rating next to it.

Also spoilers for the novels are out. Lots of unconfirmed ones going around but among the confirmed info.

Lefiya does indeed have access to Filvis’ Einsel. But instead of cloning herself and halving her status Lefiya’s Einsel instead summons Filvis (Unclear if its Merged Filvis or not). Also she lost an arm.

Riveria is dead (Possibly fake)

Gareth lost a leg

Raul reaches level 5

The 72nd floor is so dangerous Zeus and Hera Familia’s vanguard force was wiped out despite not seeing any monsters on that floor so they gave up on it hence why Zald and Alfia’s lowest floor explored is the 71st floor

Celdia, the ancient hero of Albert’s party is frozen in the 72nd floor according to Zald’s report

Seemingly Finn’s Tir Na Nog destruction spawned a 60th floor Juggernaut and two Balors. Ottar defeated both Balors.
 
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man I sure love depending on Yenpress for the english release, being 2 volumes behind the japanese release is so awesome

so first things first, do we have anyone we could try and seek out to help with calcs? I think that's a fine point to start for feats

also we know from the juggernaut conditions that a decent chunk of the floor needs to be destroyed for it to spawn, maybe we could try and look into how much of floor 60 Finn destroyed? could be an interesting AP feat
 
man I sure love depending on Yenpress for the english release, being 2 volumes behind the japanese release is so awesome

so first things first, do we have anyone we could try and seek out to help with calcs? I think that's a fine point to start for feats

also we know from the juggernaut conditions that a decent chunk of the floor needs to be destroyed for it to spawn, maybe we could try and look into how much of floor 60 Finn destroyed? could be an interesting AP feat
The entire 60th floor was collapsing when the Corrupted Spirit used the entire floor that it merged with as energy to divert Tir Na Nog. Also we already got the Titan Alm Demi Spirit destroying Floor 59 as a feat for level 8. So I don't think this'll be any useful.

As for people to ask for calc. Maybe Therefir? Like he did help calc the outlierish Wynn Fimbulvetr before.
 
We got a size for floor 58 based on the spoilers. Floor 58 is stated to be large enough to contain several Orarios. Several means at least 3 so Floor 58 onwards is at least 3x the size of Orario. Pretty much what I had originally assumed the size for those floors were >2x but <4x.
 
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Volume 21 — I’m not good at Japanese, but if I’m not mistaken

Ottar and Leon, in their full magic states, have surpassed Level 8 and reached a strength equivalent to Level 9. They were powerful enough to nullify the incomplete Heaven Gate, causing the entire dungeon to tremble.
 
Volume 21 — I’m not good at Japanese, but if I’m not mistaken
When they say shake the entire Dungeon they’re probably just talking about the floor they’re on or are near it. Cause Black Goliath also shook the Dungeon when it was born. Also yeah V21 has a lot of crazy scaling and statements. We basically got a onscreen level 11 character (Who wasn’t even at full power) this volume. And got confirmation that said character is still far inferior to the Black Dragon. So the top tiers will probably scale rather high in terms of tiering from the looks of it.
 
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So like what’s the status update on the calcs? Anybody made any yet?
I forgot to ask Therefir (maybe if you could, you could try to send a request on his profile directly?) but rn I'm working under the info you delivered of Orario being "several times the size of Orario" (aka 3x at minimum), if we take the previous pixel scaling calc of the center of orario being 20km then also use pixel scaling on the the astrea record map you still get about 100km of diameter for the entire city of orario, and therefore 300km of diameter for the 59th floor

currently asking a friend that is good at math (he isn't part of the vs community) to check the calc for me. All that said, could you maybe pass the quote abt the 59th floor being "several times the size of orario"? even if it's in japanese it's fine, I just need a screenshot to serve as evidence bc it's best we just have an actual screenshot of the evidence one way or another
 
I forgot to ask Therefir (maybe if you could, you could try to send a request on his profile directly?) but rn I'm working under the info you delivered of Orario being "several times the size of Orario" (aka 3x at minimum), if we take the previous pixel scaling calc of the center of orario being 20km then also use pixel scaling on the the astrea record map you still get about 100km of diameter for the entire city of orario, and therefore 300km of diameter for the 59th floor

currently asking a friend that is good at math (he isn't part of the vs community) to check the calc for me. All that said, could you maybe pass the quote abt the 59th floor being "several times the size of orario"? even if it's in japanese it's fine, I just need a screenshot to serve as evidence bc it's best we just have an actual screenshot of the evidence one way or another
Are you sure the center is just 20km and not somewhat bigger or smaller? Cause it’s the routes to the chambers that are 20km. Not that the Six Spirit Ring diameter is 20km.

I only read summaries and some translations of the two volumes in Chinese which said 58th floor is large enough to contain 几个 (Several/few/many either way all of them means at least 3) Orario.
 
the idea is that the route shown from the map when added up is roughly the same size as the diameter of the six spirit ring itself as you can see here

also ok so I'll ask my friend for a second version where the size of the 59th floor is 200km, I trust what the leaks are saying but the thing is that i'd rather work with the solid screenshoted info rather than second hand information, it's generally better for discussions to have stuff at hand is all so whenever you do have it, it would be good to screenshot the part of text where it says it and link it here
 
Episode Asfi spoilers are also out and huh. So the Black Dragon might be so strong that even destroying half of Gekkai (Lower World) wouldn’t be enough to kill it. That is if the plan to kill the Black Dragon that would also destroy half the world in context is actually destroying it in one go and not just destroying it overtime or with some kind of biological weapon.
 
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multi continental End of series Bell would be really damn crazy but considering the amount of info we do have it's not enough, if the key word is "might" but nothing garanteed

anyway One eyed black dragon vs Kaido sounds funny as a matchup purely bc they are both dragons that everyone in the story won't stop glazing as the strongest one around that also the story itself has been hyping up for a decade straight, multi cont Black dragon would actually make this debatable too lol
 
alright my friend gave me the calcs featuring the two sizes that can be argued for (reminder that this is the old example of the calc used so we basically just changed the diamater of the cylinder)

200KM
LOW (3500ºC): 4.0974853e+18 J
HIGH (5000ºC): 4.1942204e+18 J

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300KM
LOW (3500ºC): 9.219342e+18 J
HIGH (5000ºC): 9.4369959e+18 J

so basically large mountain level
 
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alright my friend gave me the calcs featuring the two sizes that can be argued for (reminder that this is the old example of the calc used so we basically just changed the diamater of the cylinder)

200KM
LOW (3500ºC): 4.0974853e+18 J
HIGH (5000ºC): 4.1942204e+18 J

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300KM
LOW (3500ºC): 9.219342e+18 J
HIGH (5000ºC): 9.4369959e+18 J

so basically large mountain level
Huh wasn’t it calced around High 6-C before on Reddit or somewhere else with a much smaller size? Thought it was going to be around like 6-B with the much larger size used. Though I guess this rating does make more sense with the feats showed by the top tiers of the series.
 
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Huh wasn’t it calced around High 6-C before on Reddit or somewhere else with a much smaller size? Thought it was going to be around like 6-B with the much larger size used. Though I guess this rating does make more sense with the feats showed by the top tiers of the series.
the only reddit calc Ive ever seen posted regarding the firestorm feat is the one linked in my comment which used a 10km diameter for the 59th floor (bc he just went with orario being 5km based of a random statement of "orario being so big you can't see the whole thing across the horizon" which you can generalize as the human vision distance of it being 5km), this is the same calc as that, even assuming the melting point of tungsten since you gotta remember that Gareth's armor and shields melted and it's made of dungeon materials that are way more resistance than anything found in the surface which you can more or less apply to real life, hence using tungsten as the bare minimum

if there is any other calc I am not aware of it bc again this is the only calc of the firestorm I'm aware of

and hell the original calc got to large city level, the jump from that to large mountain is pretty damn impressive
 
the only reddit calc Ive ever seen posted regarding the firestorm feat is the one linked in my comment which used a 10km diameter for the 59th floor (bc he just went with orario being 5km based of a random statement of "orario being so big you can't see the whole thing across the horizon" which you can generalize as the human vision distance of it being 5km), this is the same calc as that, even assuming the melting point of tungsten since you gotta remember that Gareth's armor and shields melted and it's made of dungeon materials that are way more resistance than anything found in the surface which you can more or less apply to real life, hence using tungsten as the bare minimum

if there is any other calc I am not aware of it bc again this is the only calc of the firestorm I'm aware of

and hell the original calc got to large city level, the jump from that to large mountain is pretty damn impressive
I probably just saw a wank calc at some point then. But yeah still a huge jump in power. But we're gonna actually need a Orario size that evaluated before this can be checked.
 
Anyways what about the lower tiered feats for those around level 1-6? Like so far you guys are only calcing the level 7-8 feats off-site.
 
I don't do calcs myself, I just knew of the general formula for the firestorm one, othe feats I'm not so sure, I did send a request for Therefir since you brought him up but he has yet to reply on my end

but in your opinion what are the feats that levels 1 to 5 should even scale to? like as far as I know the range of feats are the wall/ground breaking feats and then the firestorm feat, this series doesn't do much beyond shockwaves and ground breaking, maybe the collosseum explosion on the 37th floor scale to level 4 considering Ryuu survived that?
 
I don't do calcs myself, I just knew of the general formula for the firestorm one, othe feats I'm not so sure, I did send a request for Therefir since you brought him up but he has yet to reply on my end

but in your opinion what are the feats that levels 1 to 5 should even scale to? like as far as I know the range of feats are the wall/ground breaking feats and then the firestorm feat, this series doesn't do much beyond shockwaves and ground breaking, maybe the collosseum explosion on the 37th floor scale to level 4 considering Ryuu survived that?
Based on the list I’ve made at the beginning and my guesses for those feats. Assuming we ignore the gap among those of the same level (Low vs High). The ones that I think are gonna be the usable ones and on the profile that aren’t supporting feats are.

Level 1: 9-B to 9-A (The various wall breaking feats and the 9-A feat on Bell’s profile)

Level 2: 8-C (10x the 9-A feat on Bell’s profile, Black Goliath’s roar destroying a tree which Bell can survive, and Horn surving being sent flying through a pillar with enough force to be compared to a river breaking a dam.

Level 3: 8-B (Black Goliath’s shockwave that the level 3s can survive and Hyacinthus surviving the destruction of a tower)

Level 4: 8-A (10x the previous level, Lambtons shaking the 27th floor and Bell surviving being thrown into the Dungeon by Asterius when his status is about equivalent to a level 4)

Level 5: Low 7-B (Valgang Dragons shaking the 52nd to 58th floor and melting through hundreds of meters of stone if not more based on the manga)

Level 6: 7-B (10x the Valgang Dragon’s feat)

Level 7: 7-A (Knossos Demi Spirit’s destroying Orario)

Level 8: High 7-A (Titan Alm Demi Spirit’s Fire Storm melting everything in Floor 59)

Level 9: 6-C (10x the Fire Storm feat)

Level 10: High 6-C (10x the previous level and Epimetheus erasing an entire island with flames)

Level 11: Low 6-B (10x the previous level)

Level 12: 6-B (10x the previous level)

Level 13: High 6-B (10x the previous level)

Gods: High 6-A or 5-B (Various destroying the Lower World statements)
 
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Been way too used to the Ultra Series not needing too many calcs due to them scaling to common cosmic feats. I completely forgot how hard it is to get a verse updated when nobody is willing to calc low tier feats for you. Man at this rate we’re probably not even gonna get a single calc made and evaluated on here by the end of the year.

Also how are we going to deal with speed for the verse? Cause right now we don’t have much speed feats for levels 2-4 do we? We just have some new level 1s are slower than horses but eventually surpasses them in speed when gaining enough speed stat and level 5+ dodging light speed attacks at close range.
 
1) yeah it is complicated, I sent a message on therafir but they didn't show up, our best bet is search around vs circles to anyone willing to help but problem comes from the fact that this series is so niche and has so much content that there's not many who do calcs and have interest in the series to do anything. That's the ultimate problem with a lot of niche serie, most who do calcs usually stay within their own interests rather than doing stuff for others, which is fine but it leaves us with basically no options, like it's related but I've been on death battle circles for years and I swear I think I see danmachi being thrown around like, twice per year if I'm lucky, this series is just that niche

2) best we can probably do is scale some of the shockwave feats maybe? there's probably some "moving faster than the eye can see" movement for the levels 2 ~ 4, anything beyond that is fair to argue relativistic and SoL due to the many statements here and there
 
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