Tomura Shigaraki Vs Kai (My Hero Academia Vs Ninjago) [13-0-0]

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Speed is equalized because there might be new speed revisions for them. Season 8 episode 1 alone had all might dodging a giant laser and dodging a radio wave point blank

 

[AigerTheKing]

The thing can regenerate as much as it needs to as long as Shigaraki's original body isn't decapitated.

Also, Spinjitzu acts as a forcefield so the hands would never be able to touch Kai's body

 

[Shadowslaya!]

Shigaraki FRA

 

[Machmatej]

So we can't add the match per Versus Thread rules

If you didn't read, I listed all the other abilities that Shigaraki can use to win.

Fear hax doesn't work due to Kai's resistances

I don't see any such resistance on his profile

 

[AigerTheKing]

If you didn't read, I listed all the other abilities that Shigaraki can use to win.

Weren't you relying on the fact Shigi would blitz Kai with those abilities to win?

I don't see any such resistance on his profile

This is why we read verse page abilities on people's profiles

Spinjitzu Mastery & Standard Elemental Master Abilities

• Fear Manipulation & Empathic Manipulation (Elemental Masters in Dark Island were able to resist and overcome Dark Matter that enraged them and manipulated their fears. This is consistent with Lloyd being able to break free from an even more enhanced amount of Dark Matter, Wu being able to fight off and eventually overcome a strong amount of Dark Matter and Lloyd, Zane and Cole getting even closer to Dark Matter and still resist the effects. Misako also confirms that their Elemental Energy allows them to counter the effects of that Dark Matter)

 

[Machmatej]

Weren't you relying on the fact Shigi would blitz Kai with those abilities to win?

No.

This is why we read verse page abilities on people's profiles

Wait until he realizes there are three types of fear manipulation with three other subtypes...

 

[AigerTheKing]

Wait until he realizes there are three types of fear manipulation...

His fear inducement wouldn't affect Kai. Dark Matter produces hallucinations too

 

[Machmatej]

Also, Spinjitzu acts as a forcefield so the hands would never be able to touch Kai's body

yeah because he'll keep spinning forever while doing a million different things at once

 

[AigerTheKing]

yeah because he'll keep spinning forever while doing a million different things at once

Spinjitzu users can use attacks while in the tornado. Shigaraki essentially cannot hit his physical body, grapple him or do anything but try to dodge, and on top of that he deals with a Speed boost and someone as skilled as he is combat wise if not better

 

[Machmatej]

Spinjitzu users can use attacks while in the tornado. Shigaraki essentially cannot hit his physical body, grapple him or do anything but try to dodge, and on top of that he deals with a Speed boost and someone as skilled as he is combat wise if not better

Then Shigaraki does this to stop him from spinning.

Whoopty doo

 

[Lloydblitzed]

The thing can regenerate as much as it needs to as long as Shigaraki's original body isn't decapitated.

Well both gets incinerated by his Element

 

[Machmatej]

Well both gets incinerated by his Element

If only he had the range

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Then Shigaraki does this to stop him from spinning.

Whoopty doo

In what way would that stop him if the 1000x above my AP shield just tanks it?

 

[Machmatej]

In what way would that stop him if the 1000x above my AP shield just tanks it?

The force would push him back, and thus stop his momentum, thus stopping the spinning?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

If only he had the range

If only

Hundreds of Meters with fire (can engulf multiple city blocks in flames)

 

[Machmatej]

If only

Send the scan buddy

 

[Lloydblitzed]

The force would push him back, and thus stop his momentum, thus stopping the spinning?

Based on what will his Multi Continental attacks phase Star lvl/Large Star lvl attacks? I feel like this is turning into stomp for both sides

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Based on what will his Multi Continental attacks phase Star lvl/Large Star lvl attacks? I feel like this is turning into stomp for both sides

He means the force behind its pushing power, AKA Lifting Strength.

 

[Machmatej]

Based on what will his Multi Continental attacks phase Star lvl/Large Star lvl attacks? I feel like this is turning into stomp for both sides

Star level ap or durability doesn't stop him from getting tossed around by someone with way superior LS

 

[Lloydblitzed]

He means the force behind its pushing power, AKA Lifting Strength.

That can't save him from being blasted too tho

 

[Machmatej]

That can't save him from being blasted too tho

Unfortunately the blast in question doesn't have the DC to do much.

 

[AigerTheKing]

Unfortunately the blast in question doesn't have the DC to do much.

Why would that matter? It would kill him anyways via AP and 0 Resistance to his EP

 

[Machmatej]

Why would that matter? It would kill him anyways via AP and 0 Resistance to his EP

DC matters a lot when fighting someone who's the size of a city block and can regenerate

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Off topic but this opening is underrated

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Send the scan buddy

A bit lazy to look it up but anyways the Dragon getting incinerated vid I sent earlier covers it

 

[AigerTheKing]

DC matters a lot when fighting someone who's the size of a city block and can regenerate

Range was addressed in the 1st page with what Lloyd sent, and again, Shigaraki cannot survive the flames

 

[Machmatej]

A bit lazy to look it up but anyways the Dragon getting incinerated vid I sent earlier covers it

Absolutely not... Shigaraki dwarfs the UA flying fortress

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Absolutely not... Shigaraki dwarfs the UA flying fortress

Can't Kai just bash throught both? His body is protected by his Spinjitzu/RDT abilities, who also channel his element on it (I won't bring up the Cosmic Shield thing cuz he doesn't use it much), and even if Shigaraki breaks the momentum, Kai can either reactivate it again or/aand shoot big flames

 

[Machmatej]

Can't Kai just bash throught both? His body is protected by his Spinjitzu/RDT abilities, who also channel his element on it (I won't bring up the Cosmic Shield thing cuz he doesn't use it much), and even if Shigaraki breaks the momentum, Kai can either reactivate it again or/aand shoot big flames

I just saw a clip of Kai and the other ninja struggling to move a few feet with spinjutsu because of strong wind. Air Cannon is like a direct counter to spinjutsu, and is something he uses very often

Also saw Cole getting bitched slapped out of it by a ghost guy

 

[AigerTheKing]

Also saw Cole getting bitched slapped out of it by a ghost guy

That was a powerless Cole

 

[Machmatej]

That was a powerless Cole

Strong wind > All 6 ninja's spinjutsu btw. You think Kai is going through an Air Cannon?

 

[Ebihara]

Shiki fra

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I just saw a clip of Kai and the other ninja struggling to move a few feet with spinjutsu because of strong wind.

Those were weakened Ninjas if ur talking about season 5, and later on he casually fly with Airjitzu with which a sub tier of Spinjitzu while being caught on a storm on top of the planet's highest mountain

 

[Machmatej]

Those were weakened Ninjas if ur talking about season 5, and later on he casually fly with Airjitzu with which a sub tier of Spinjitzu while being caught on a storm on top of the planet's highest mountain

Class T vs Class P btw. Also, didn't airjutsu get retconned or smth?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Strong wind > All 6 ninja's spinjutsu btw. You think Kai is going through an Air Cannon?

May work on Spinjitzu, but what about his others attacks, like getting big fire cuts thrown at him which also explode with Fire?

As for the range of his Fire, we saw Kai's flames expand in a giant cavern once Rusty used it to cook his Master. Why wouldn't the same happen to the decay demon and Shiki?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This is a funny ass match btw

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Class T vs Class P btw. Also, didn't airjutsu get retconned or smth?

No, they stopped using it cuz of Clouse shennanigans (And tbh their new skills are better anyways)

 

[Machmatej]

May work on Spinjitzu, but what about his others attacks, like getting big fire cuts thrown at him which also explode with Fire?

Regeneration. They don't have the DC to destroy the entire flesh fortress.

May work on Spinjitzu, but what about his others attacks, like getting big fire cuts thrown at him which also explode with Fire?

As for the range of his Fire, we saw Kai's flames expand in a giant cavern once Rusty used it to cook his Master. Why wouldn't the same happen to the decay demon and Shiki?

That's not big enough, and that's a SLOW ass burning fire. Shigaraki can put that out with Air Cannon or just get a new body.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

May work on Spinjitzu, but what about his others attacks, like getting big fire cuts thrown at him which also explode with Fire?

As for the range of his Fire, we saw Kai's flames expand in a giant cavern once Rusty used it to cook his Master. Why wouldn't the same happen to the decay demon and Shiki?

Class T vs Class P btw. Also, didn't airjutsu get retconned or smth?

My argument included RDT too, where Kai's doesn't spin, so the Air Cannon breaking spinning momentum wouldn't work against it

 

[Machmatej]

My argument included RDT too, where Kai's doesn't spin, so the Air Cannon breaking spinning momentum wouldn't work against it

It would still blast him out of the sky. Again, Class P attack vs Class T character with no solid ground to leverage himself. Flying or spinning just doesnt work here