Asgore Dreemurr (Undertale) vs Kai (Ninjago) [1-5-8] (GRACE ENDED)

[AigerTheKing]

Now prove this fire lingers. It'll burn, not kill unless he's a dumbass and can't dodge.

Because he can dodge the blasts ≠ He'll survive the heat if hit by it

 

[DaReaperMan]

Because he can dodge the blasts ≠ He'll survive the heat if hit by it

Kai must be weaker than a normal human then to heat, huh?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Kai must be weaker than a normal human then to heat, huh?

Kai's resistances are at like 2000°C

44 Degrees is enough to kill a human

 

[DaReaperMan]

Kai's resistances are at like 2000°C

44 Degrees is enough to kill a human

Overtime from overall bodily temperature. Humans will die from lack of oxygen before burning to death in fire.

So, again, Kai has worse heat tolerance than a normal human, right? Because there's no proof Asgore's fire lingers on someone, and thus no proof his heat instant kills.

 

[AigerTheKing]

Overtime from overall bodily temperature. Humans will die from lack of oxygen before burning to death in fire.

So, again, Kai has worse heat tolerance than a normal human, right? Because there's no proof Asgore's fire lingers on someone, and thus no proof his heat instant kills.

He's still getting nuked by hundreds of heat projectiles, which makes his death quicker

 

[AigerTheKing]

Overtime from overall bodily temperature. Humans will die from lack of oxygen before burning to death in fire.

Prove a human's heat tolerance levels to thousands of degrees

 

[DaReaperMan]

Prove a human's heat tolerance levels to thousands of degrees

You tried to bring up human heat tolerance, I'm allowed to bring up the fact that 1650 Celcius fire doesn't outright kill people before oxygen deprivation does.

 

[AigerTheKing]

You tried to bring up human heat tolerance, I'm allowed to bring up the fact that 1650 Celcius fire doesn't outright kill people before oxygen deprivation does.

Doesn't change my point and the heat difference here is of 2222.22°C, which is far higher

He's still getting nuked by hundreds of heat projectiles, which makes his death quicker

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Now prove this fire lingers. It'll burn, not kill unless he's a dumbass and can't dodge.

We alread had a giant discussion about that, please let's not go back to that

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Just clarifying a couple of things:
1) Asgore's Soul Manip is limited to AP, so it won't work;
2) Asgore's only actual wincon is fire manip which is superior to Kai's resistance;
3) Asgore's attacks are either crazy Danmaku or just something rather easy (also if he tries his trident attack which is AP-based and not fire... yea he is dead)

Essentially it's either Asgore does a crazy danmaku that Kai doesn't dodge and dies to, or he uses smth else and gets stomped by Kai.

I think it's more of Inconclusive tbh.

 

[Steve1775]

Tbh I thought this was Kai vs Asriel and I was wondering wtf Kai's gonna do to him. Anyways Kai FRA

 

[OrangeFR]

Kai FRA

 

[Lloydblitzed]

All counted

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Incon FRA

Asgore could either start with superior fire danmaku and win or just try using his trident and end up dying

 

[Monsters_fight]

Leading to Asgore

 

[LittleGuy99]

Incon FRA

 

[Lloydblitzed]

All counted

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Incon FRA


It seems that SOUL is a concept type 3

• SOUL Manipulation & Limited Durability Negation: Monsters' magic attacks the SOUL, which is the essence of one's being. Some monsters can also manipulate the SOUL of their opponent though inflicting status effects, such as making it heavier or unable to walk away from a point in the area. Despite them being able to damage the souls and eventually destroying them, their attacks can be protected from with conventional durability.

How is Kai dealing with that?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Incon FRA

Counted

It seems that SOUL is a concept type 3

How is Kai dealing with that?

Oh its limited to AP as addressed previously, so it wouldn't work on Kai

 

[MannyQ361]

Voting incon fra

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

It seems that SOUL is a concept type 3

Nah chief (tho would be hella cool)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Incon FRA.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

All counted

 

[AthelChan]

Incon FRA

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Counted

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I'll vote incon FRA too based on Orange's arguments

 

[Drite77]

Grace for incon is 72 hours btw

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Grace for incon is 72 hours btw

Only without the 3 vote diff

• If the final verdict did not have a minimum difference of three votes a grace period for inconclusive of 72 hours will begin. The other rules for inconclusive will still apply; grace for inconclusive will only be added if both parties had a notable debate.