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Like right after Vader got his armor? Kylo kicks that Vader's ass.
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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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Yeah like, Vader when he's not used to his body and hasn't made his own lightsaber style yet
XSOULOFCINDERX
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You can make an argument he does significantly better against ESB Vader than Luke did as well since Luke wasn't getting completely stomped since Vader actually had to try somewhat in that fight and he didn't no hit run it. I've also heard that there's a statement of ESB Luke being stronger than Obi-Wan in Vader's opinion but I've not been able to find it.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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I got bad understanding of what Post Mustafar meant. post rebels it is then
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Not gonna lie, that Vader probably just stalemates Kylo or barely wins by the skin of his teeth. He's weaker than he is in ESB though he's just as skilled but Kylo is an unpredictable mess of a fighter with a totally unique lightsaber that's at least somewhat decent at preventing the strat of just sliding your blade down the enemy's until it hits the hilt like what Obi-Wan did to Grievous and as established, he would beat ESB Luke who canonically gives the second strongest version of Vader a decent fight before he loses.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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if there's still a chance of Kylo Ren losing then I'm still doin this
OTG0001
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Kylo has direct statements placing him above vader, this isnt close sadly.
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XSOULOFCINDERX
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He did kill a Zillo Beast.
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Didn't he do that via dura neg?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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I mean he was inside of it but that's not technically dura neg.
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So, the one place you can actually use a lightsaber and the force on the accursed thing?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Yeah. I personally think its really fun that the same comic hypes this up as a Vader+ feat because Vader didn't kill this same Zillo Beast before when Kylo just kind of cheats, albeit in an insanely risky way.
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Hey, i'm really lazy in creating Paz Vizsla's profile rn so lemme show y'all what i got so i may put into a CRT
Din Djarin/Mando rework, basically rewrote some small parts and made a complete revamp of references and PnA (including the addition of another key)
Grogu small rework
Tarre "the G O A T" Vizsla's profile
The Armorer's profile
Few questions:
Ayo, no images?
man, i suck A S S at doing this, and were told elsewhere that if i get an ok with the profile first and then ask someone to put images there
What else is there to work on?
Paz Vizsla probably deserves a profile, I'm just doing a lot rn and not sure if it would be much other than "scaling from Din Djarin", Bo-Katan for sure should get her profile created
What about Sabine Wren (who has a profile)? Or Bo-Katan herself, why nothing got worked on?
Both (and any other i forgor to mention) appear on media i don't dominate so i won't work on them rn
What about Moff Gideon?
Didn't see anything to work on.
Din Djarin/Mando rework, basically rewrote some small parts and made a complete revamp of references and PnA (including the addition of another key)
Grogu small rework
Tarre "the G O A T" Vizsla's profile
The Armorer's profile
Few questions:
Ayo, no images?
man, i suck A S S at doing this, and were told elsewhere that if i get an ok with the profile first and then ask someone to put images there
What else is there to work on?
Paz Vizsla probably deserves a profile, I'm just doing a lot rn and not sure if it would be much other than "scaling from Din Djarin", Bo-Katan for sure should get her profile created
What about Sabine Wren (who has a profile)? Or Bo-Katan herself, why nothing got worked on?
Both (and any other i forgor to mention) appear on media i don't dominate so i won't work on them rn
What about Moff Gideon?
Didn't see anything to work on.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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As awesome as Tarre is lore wise, does he really need a profile when we have no idea how he fights?
Ruby_R_Dracula
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weird. I never needed to get an okay before I add imgs to my sandboxs. unless I'm misreading
OTG0001
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Denying the narrative put forth is crazy work, ngl, also this sentiment has no basis, they should be treated equally and evaluated to the full extent.
Kylo also doesn't lack in feats but whatever.
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If you want to argue this, run into a sandbox and rework Kylo's bad profile...
Hehe, whatever you say...
OTG0001
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No I don't, that's why I haven't to begin with, I'm merely questioning your reasoning exclusively.
I guarantee i've read far far more Canon than you, I think I'm aware of what I'm talking about lol.
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I know my way around Kylo. I just prefer to not talk about him because the sequel trilogy was two thirds dogshit. Vader's scaling is blatantly better, unless you want to show me Kylo crushing a man's brain?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Just for your sake I'm gonna give you some advice, don't ever make an argument like this for anything ever as it makes you sound way more whiny than is intended and like you're trying to gate keep. Not saying that's what you're doing but this phrasing is never a good way to go about arguments.
OTG0001
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Can agree on sequels being beyond dogshit, but whether or not he has crushed someone's brain is situational and shouldn't be indicative of actual power, kylo has direct scaling over vader whether you like it or not.
OTG0001
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It's a whiny response to a whiny response, why am I the perpetrator?
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Enjoy those half a dozen anti-feats a movie, pal...
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I think it's cool, and from what i got from multiple mods, the wiki is more for categorization sake than for vs matches
So we can have him just because he's awesome and, if needed, we just warn that (un-f***ing-fortunately) we don't know his fighting style
its a small misread of yours, yeah
i don't put images because when i try it is dogshit, and i asked (and was given an ok) that i can propose an imageless profile on a CRT and ask someone to do this for me if it gets accepted
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Ah, also if someone see this as useful to know:
Some stuff (work, gaming and few profiles) are in front of it, but i intend on reforming Yoda's canon profile soon. I'd do it for Grievous too, to get my 3 favorite canon characters, but @Ms.Luzifer has already done a great job :>
Some stuff (work, gaming and few profiles) are in front of it, but i intend on reforming Yoda's canon profile soon. I'd do it for Grievous too, to get my 3 favorite canon characters, but @Ms.Luzifer has already done a great job :>
Ruby_R_Dracula
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YESSS, THE THREAD FINALLY FINSIHED
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General Grievous
General Grievous was the Supreme Commander of the Armies of the Confederacy of Independent Systems during the Clone Wars against the Galactic Republic. A Kaleesh warlord from the planet Kalee, he chose to have his body modified with numerous cybernetics to improve his physicality, eventually...
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Grievous is love, Grievous is life
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Rework Obi-Wan too lol
Ruby_R_Dracula
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didn't y'all mention a matchup in the Vader vs Toji thread that included Grievous, but y'all waited for the rework to apply?
who the dude
who the dude
Nonynho
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Would be lovely but will take a while before i take on it cuz i for sure will have a f*** ton of material to read for the Yoda one
Nonynho
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what in the actual f***?
i want to read whatever this is
Ruby_R_Dracula
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Darth Vader vs Toji Fushiguro
I usually like to do a character edition with that death battle thing, but I'm not even sure how fair this confrontation is, I just want to test Darth Vader. Rules: Speed equalized, SBA CharactersVotes Darth Vader (Key: Disney Canon (Post Rebels))(12) @XSOULOFCINDERX, @Baken384, @Sammy818...
Ruby_R_Dracula
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Okay, now I remember.
it was Grievous vs Toji....
hmmm should I restrict the Clankers in this matchup since they're now optional equipment?
Ruby_R_Dracula
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hol on lemme go mirmir, Lil bro only made me have 3 hours of sleep
Nonynho
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unfortunately no Grievous here until where i read :<Darth Vader vs Toji Fushiguro
I usually like to do a character edition with that death battle thing, but I'm not even sure how fair this confrontation is, I just want to test Darth Vader. Rules: Speed equalized, SBA CharactersVotes Darth Vader (Key: Disney Canon (Post Rebels))(12) @XSOULOFCINDERX, @Baken384, @Sammy818...vsbattles.com
Jokes aside, this can't be fair because how would Toji react to the new Lightsaber temperature, for example?
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Do not put poor Toji against Grievous, skillwise they do not compare in the slightest.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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last page, they talked about doin this with grievous but waited till rework is applied
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any JJK Characters that would do?
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Do it
They've always been optional equipment. IG-100 MagnaGuards should be upgraded to 8-A though.
Nonynho
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can't imagine someone who would resist the lightsaber heat, aside maybe from possibly Jogo
if there is or not, nobody on this verse would compare skill-wise with him
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