Battle of beauty (Camilla vs. Jericho) (Fire Emblem Fates vs. Nanatsu no Taizai

[Bossbrosish]

Post-Awakening Jericho is being used. Camilla is mounted on her Wyvern and has access to the Brave Axe, fire and thunder tomes, Ragnarok, and Fimbulvetr. The battle takes place in a colosseum, starting 10 meters apart, with speed equalized.

Camilla AP: 8.09 megatons of TNT

Jericho AP: 46 megatons of TNT

(5.6x difference in Jericho's favor)

Camilla: 0

Jericho: 0


Draw: 0

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Jericho AP: 30 megatons of TNT

Where did you get those 30 megatons from? She scales up to 46 megatons.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Where did you get those 30 megatons from? She scales up to 46 megatons.

Asked speedster in DMs, was told 30-40 and her 4KoA is 40 megatons with the rest being around 30 megatons.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Asked speedster in DMs, was told 30-40 and her 4KoA is 40 megatons with the rest being around 30 megatons.

This is completely wrong; she scales to 46 megatons.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I don't know much about the other character, but from what I saw, Godspeed showed up and the fight was over.

 

[Franstel]

So advantage for both sides at a glance,
Jericho:
*Big Ap advantage (x5,68 gap)
*Can prevent Severa from healing herself
*Massive LS advantage
*Ice Fang is a good option


Severa:
*Can ignore durability and electrocute her target at range with the levin sword
*Two decent amps:

• Can increase her chance of landing and dodging attacks via Patience as long as Jericho attack first.
• If Jericho attack first, she will gain a little more AP.

*Her resistance to magic should help her against Ice Fang.

How skilled is Jericho and what she do in character ?

Note: altough the dura neg is not on Severa's profile because her profile is a bit old, currently magic in fe is accepted as ignoring durability. The levin sword do magical damage. Her profile was just not updated after the CRT

 

[Majinere566]

No way a non Escanor matchup from Bossbrosish???

 

[Makai641001]

So advantage for both sides at a glance,
Jericho:
*Big Ap advantage (x5,68 gap)

This value is for Ban’s physicals without sacred treasure, Jericho upscales decently above if not to Sealed base Meliodas (92 megatons)

*Can prevent Severa from healing herself

*Massive LS advantage

A few billion times yeah.

*Ice Fang is a good option


Severa:
*Can ignore durability and electrocute her target at range with the levin sword

Jericho could stand close to Gilthunder’s most powerful lightnings and even though it was painful to her she could withstand it well.

*Two decent amps:

• Can increase her chance of landing and dodging attacks via Patience as long as Jericho attack first.
• If Jericho attack first, she will gain a little more AP.

*Her resistance to magic should help her against Ice Fang.

How skilled is Jericho and what she do in character ?

She is decent, 7DS are highly skilled beings and she could fight against Ban without much problems

Just after awakening she was already more skilled than HK’s despite being just an apprentice.

She uses her godspeed pretty often which is her fastest attack and really hard to dodge.

Note: altough the dura neg is not on Severa's profile because her profile is a bit old, currently magic in fe is accepted as ignoring durability. The levin sword do magical damage. Her profile was just not updated after the CRT

Ok in NNT resistance to magic is linked to overall stats

 

[Makai641001]

NGL Jericho is taking this 10/10 times with low to Mid diff from what I see Godspeed is too much

 

[speedster352]

This is completely wrong; she scales to 46 megatons.

I thought she she didn't fully scale to Gilthunder until after the demon transformation and the 4 knights timeskip.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Selena should also be as skilled as her mother as she's constantly being compared to her (much to her disliking), who's considered a genius combatant my multiple characters in Awakening.

 

[Makai641001]

Selena should also be as skilled as her mother as she's constantly being compared to her (much to her disliking), who's considered a genius combatant my multiple characters in Awakening.

So the skill gap isn’t really big i see, i’ll vote for Jericho FRB:
AP gap, 5.6 to 11.37x
LS gap, around 2 billion
Resists electricity pretty well
Godspeed would blitz Selena
Decent range with ice manip
Decent stamina capable of fighting and killing multiple low tier demons

 

[Franstel]

So the skill gap isn’t really big i see, i’ll vote for Jericho FRB:
AP gap, 5.6 to 11.37x
LS gap, around 2 billion
Resists electricity pretty well
Godspeed would blitz Selena
Decent range with ice manip
Decent stamina capable of fighting and killing multiple low tier demons

From memory, Severa do have better skill feat than this like:
*Fighting against invisible targets by sensing their presence
*Even taken by surprise she can take on a group of risen by herself
*Being able to take on ennemies from Castle Apotheosis which are the strongest being in their worlds coming from countless différent Outrealm.
She may have more but like you say skill's her only advantage and she get stomped here

 

[Makai641001]

From memory, Severa do have better skill feat than this like:
*Fighting against invisible targets by sensing their presence
*Even taken by surprise she can take on a group of risen by herself
*Being able to take on ennemies from Castle Apotheosis which are the strongest being in their worlds coming from countless différent Outrealm.
She may have more but like you say skill's her only advantage and she get stomped here

Yeah these are decent ig
Jericho’s best skill feat outside of 4kota is her leading a squad of HK’s and being able to freeze solid demons individually on par or stronger than her despite being heavily outnumbered

 

[Bossbrosish]

Can ignore durability and electrocute her target at range with the levin sword

So I found the thread (Applied it to Severa/ Selena's profile so it's up to date). It seems magic in Fire Emblem just ignores armor entirely from the provided scans, and since Jericho wears armor, she'd be affected. Also adding to Selena's combat skill, she's able to fight Lucina, who's Gifted in combat due to being trained by her father and Robin, who's a Genius tactician. Selena's also been honing her skills in combat since she was a young child, so she's comparable.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

So I found the thread (Applied it to Severa/ Selena's profile so it's up to date). It seems magic in Fire Emblem just ignores armor entirely from the provided scans, and since Jericho wears armor, she'd be affected.

Ignoring Jericho's armor is irrelevant, the 46 megatons don't come from his armor

 

[Franstel]

Imo it's better to change characters here, Severa have no realistic wincon and is outdone in everything but skill, there's a few character in 7B who got revamped recently and can put up a match here like Tiki or SoV character such as Faye, Saber or Berkut among others.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Imo it's better to change characters here, Severa have no realistic wincon and is outdone in everything but skill, there's a few character in 7B who got revamped recently and can put up a match here like Tiki or SoV character such as Faye, Saber or Berkut among others.

Think Lucina or Camilla will also work as replacements?

 

[Franstel]

The profiles looks good enough too I don't remember that much of conquest to debate Camilla

 

[Bossbrosish]

The profiles looks good enough too I don't remember that much of conquest to debate Camilla

I've played through Fates frequently (It's the only Fire Emblem game I own, and I'm actually replaying it since I've modded my 2DS), so I could put in some arguments for Camilla.

 

[Bossbrosish]

I've played through Fates frequently (It's the only Fire Emblem game I own, and I'm actually replaying it since I've modded my 2DS), so I could put in some arguments for Camilla.

Changed to Camilla

 

[Makai641001]

Changed to Camilla

So you took Serena saw that she was getting clapped and changed for someone with the exact same stat difference ??

Jericho’s win cons stay the same ngl

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

So you took Serena saw that she was getting clapped and changed for someone with the exact same stat difference ??

Jericho’s win cons stay the same ngl

How is Jericho landing attacks on a airbone fighter who has analyitical prediction to ranged attacks and also can heal herself with Sol

Jericho can't do anything to range camping

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Also the fact that Godspeed skills seems to be only usable when Jericho drank the demon blood

Has she ever use those abilities without the demon blood?

 

[Makai641001]

How is Jericho landing attacks on a airbone fighter who has analyitical prediction to ranged attacks

She has to get in range in order to attack Jericho, they have the same range while Jericho has a 5.6 to 11x AP gap and can litteraly freeze her wyvern at the start of the fight.

Jericho can use her ice constructs to climb and reach her

Her analytical prediction bs is just higher chance to dodge bow attacks

and also can heal herself with Sol

Ngl Jericho’s AP gap would be too much

Jericho can't do anything to range camping

She can

Also the fact that Godspeed skills seems to be only usable when Jericho drank the demon blood

Has she ever use those abilities without the demon blood?

It’s a sword Skill, why should we assume that she can’t use it anymore.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

It’s a sword Skill, why should we assume that she can’t use it anymore.

Because it was made thanks to demon blood amping her and it has abilities like regeneration negation that she never uses again in the whole series

Her analytical prediction bs is just higher chance to dodge bow attacks

And magic, all range attacks Jericho can do

 

[Makai641001]

Because it was made thanks to demon blood amping her and it has abilities like regeneration negation that she never uses again in the whole series

It’s her sword that negates regen…
She became even stronger than her Blood demon amp by the Time she got awakened.

And magic, all range attacks Jericho can do

Battle starts at 10m Jericho has multiple ways to deal with distance and i gave them.

Ngl the wyvern is cooked

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Jericho unlocked her ice powers later in the series and that is her true magical power , the demon blood was another set of powers not related to her sword in the first place

She can't have both of them, nothing more to say, the series literally works that way and never showed Jericho using godspeed later

 

[Makai641001]

Jericho unlocked her ice powers later in the series and that is her true magical power , the demon blood was another set of powers not related to her sword in the first place

The regen negation wasn’t due to her demon powers…

Her sword negates up to Mid-High regeneration

She can't have both of them, nothing more to say, the series literally works that way and never showed Jericho using godspeed later

Your making it seem like Godspeed is her only win con ngl her opp is cooked.

+ she was physically stronger post awakening than her demon blood amp.

Btw Jericho mostly fought off screen.

 

[Bossbrosish]

I did a bit of research on Jericho. It seems after drinking the Demon Blood and Ban removing it, she permanently lost her Godspeed powers. So all Jericho can do is her Ice Fang.

 

[Bossbrosish]

So any mention of Godspeed is mute as she permanently lost those skills.

 

[Bossbrosish]

I don't even think her sword was doing the Mid-High regen negation but the Godspeed skills themselves from what I'm reading on them.

 

[Bossbrosish]

ngl her opp is cooked

Really using a scene from 4KoA here? Why not show actual scenes or scans of her ice manipulation that isn't from 4KoA?

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Really using a scene from 4KoA here? Why not show actual scenes or scans of her ice manipulation that isn't from 4KoA?

Lmao, this is not 4KoA

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I did a bit of research on Jericho. It seems after drinking the Demon Blood and Ban removing it, she permanently lost her Godspeed powers. So all Jericho can do is her Ice Fang.

This is false. Demon blood never gave abilities, it just amplified the ones already there.

In fact, you can see Jericho using godspeed when he was still a holy knight apprentice in the fight against Ban in the prison

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

In fact, you can see Jericho using godspeed when he was still a holy knight apprentice in the fight against Ban in the prison

If you are comparing the first flurry of attacks that Jericho did in the prison to the next one he did under demon blood and you believe those are the same, then this conversation have ended when the attacks are literally not similar at all, her page has no speed amp even with the technique and the series says SHE LOST HER POWERS


She can't have TWO POWERS

Lmao, this is not 4KoA

How is not 4KoA when LANCELOT APPEARS?

Camilla outskills, bye

 

[Makai641001]

I did a bit of research on Jericho. It seems after drinking the Demon Blood and Ban removing it, she permanently lost her Godspeed powers. So all Jericho can do is her Ice Fang.

Before the demon blood

So any mention of Godspeed is mute as she permanently lost those skills.

Showed it before even drinking the blood.

Y’all are making Godspeed stronger than it really is.

I don't even think her sword was doing the Mid-High regen negation but the Godspeed skills themselves from what I'm reading on them.

re read it it’s her sword she didn’t use any enchantment against Ban + Using random as a source is pretty mid

Really using a scene from 4KoA here? Why not show actual scenes or scans of her ice manipulation that isn't from 4KoA?

It’s not 4KOA

七つの大罪 怨嗟のエジンバラ, Nanatsu no Taizai: Ensa no Ejinbara

If you are comparing the first flurry of attacks that Jericho did in the prison to the next one he did under demon blood and you believe those are the same, then this conversation have ended when the attacks are literally not similar at all, her page has no speed amp even with the technique and the series says SHE LOST HER POWERS

She lost demon blood Amp Yeah it’s not magic it’s a physical boost that’s why the « Flurry of attack » wasn’t dangerous at all before.

She can't have TWO POWERS

You can absolutely use multiple magic types

How is not 4KoA when LANCELOT APPEARS?

In fact that’s YEARS before 4kota

Camilla outskills, bye

She probably does, but still looses

 

[Makai641001]

Y’all are trying to make an argument about godspeed when it’s just a swordskill lmao

Fight starts at 10 m Jericho will freeze the shit out of the wyvern + Camila now she can’t fly and gets cut to pieces.

Even if she was starting in the air Jericho could pseudo fly Using her ice powers and kill her

 

[Majinere566]

I’m confused why is NNT restricted?

 

[Demon_Lord18]

I’m confused why is NNT restricted?

I don't know, but Jericho froze Camila passively in 4KoA