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The purpose of this thread is to prove that black holes create through GM are real.
Gravity Magic:
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GM users:
BH planetary feat?
Summary of what GM users could create:
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Gravity Magic:
WN
LNFurthermore, gravity magic was something that should be expressed as ‘magic that interfere with the energy of star’, not only gravity, theoretically, it could also interfere with things like earth vein or terrestrial heat, bedrock or magma, it wasn’t impossible to use this magic to purposefully generate earthquake or volcano eruption.
FandomFurthermore, gravity magic was magic that manipulated the planet’s energy. In other words, those who knew it could interfere with a planet’s magnetic field or utilize geothermal energy like magma. It could be used to cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions as well.
Gravity Magic (重じゅう力りょく魔法まほう, Jūryoku Mahō?) grants the user control over gravity. The true power of this magic is the ability to manipulate the planet's energy. It can interfere with a planet's magnetic field or utilize geothermal energy like magma. It can be used to cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions as well.
GM users:
and“In my home world, humanity mastered exceptionally powerful magic. We had researched how to bring the stars under our dominion and channel the natural forces of the world. That should give you an idea of how advanced our civilization was.” Vol 13 p158
Here star could be a mistranslation of planet.“The Enlightened was the name for the individuals who understood the true nature of the ancient magic everyone had learned to use. We few escaped the destruction of our star by traveling to a different world." Vol 13 p 162
Miledi spells
Don't know if this is helpful, but Mana is a fundamental particle
- Miledi spells:
- Star of Calamity: An ability which creates a black whirling sphere that swallows anything and everything in the surroundings, pulverizing them from the inside.
- Obsidian Vortex: The most basic of gravity spells, which allows the caster to create a localized gravitational field and adjust their weight.
- Spatial Severance: An ability which creates a black hole that absorbs all spells used against her, regardless of their element.
- Heavensfall: An ability which creates countless tiny black spheres that increase the gravity of whatever Miledi chooses.
- Inverse Square: An ability which reverses the gravitational pull of anyone she targets.
- Nether Burst: An ability which traps her targets in a gravity field, which crushes whatever is in it.
- Onyx Blast: Gravity magic which fires a tiny cannonball of compressed gravity.
- Whirling Sapphire: A powerful sphere of gravity-compressed fire magic which she shots towards her targets. It explodes with the force of a small sun, creating a huge shockwave.
- Asura: A spell that creates a wide-area gravity field. With this ability she can envelop the entire island of Andika, and stop it from sinking to the depths of the ocean.
- Event Horizon: A pseudo-black hole that has enough pressure at its center to crush anything.
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- Black Hole Nova: creates the closest thing to a true singularity, as it pulled an entire alternate dimension into it, and is basically a last-resort, self-sacrificing move.
celestial flash is a light based spell(Kouki's profile)This was one of her gravity spells, Spatial Severance. She’d created a black hole that absorbed all spells, regardless of their element. Even the knights’ Celestial Flashes couldn’t escape the dark star’s singularity.
Celestial Flash: An attack which emits an intense light from his sword and with a slash is released from the sword, drawing a curve, and bisecting the target in its path.
Don't know if this is helpful, but Mana is a fundamental particle
「If I remember it right, magic power, blessing power, and even the sky dragon power in Grasp Gloria, all will lead to the element (origin) if you follow them back to their root. That was what you said right?」
「That’s right. The sacred tree and great tree――let’s just call of them the world tree. This thing is most likely a natural conversion system.」
The energies that were flowing in each of their respective world were like elementary particle at physics. It seemed they were made from very small grains that were smaller than each of them.
That was “element”. It was the smallest material that became the base of any kind of energy.
And then, the world trees that existed at each world were absorbing those elements from somewhere and converted them into energy that suited each world they were in and released them out. That was Hajime’s theory. Ch 481
――Ultimate gravity magic Black Sky Destitution
Its size was unprecedented. Four of them were formed simultaneously at the east, west, north, and south of the Heaven Tree.
Anything that was in their range, whether the surrounding apparitions in the sky, or the apparitions on the ground 「Even though we’re kneeling!?」, even the divine class got mercilessly sucked in.
The unrivaled suction power that was impossible to escape from devoured the apparitions greedily. Such sight was like a nightmare.
“Black Sky Destitution” was different from the similar gravity magic “Severance Calamity”. It wasn’t a magic to reduce the target into dust using gravitational pressure. It was an annihilation magic. Ch 417
――OoOOOOOOOOOOOO-
As expected from divine beings. The dragon gods endured even after getting swallowed into the “Black Sky Destitutions”. They all roared and unbelievably tore through the ultimate magic from the inside.
From the start they were able to make their large bodies flew in the sky. Naturally they at least had the authority to interfere with gravity.
In addition, right after all the “Black Sky Destitutions” vanished, the dragon gods also vanished from view. Right after that, they appeared once more above Yue. It seemed they could also interfere with space. Ch 417
5 meters in diameter:
「Here it is created, the star of disaster that swallow all creation――”KokutenkyuuBlack Sky Destitution”-!!」
The star of disaster was enlarged explosively. It was the secret technique of gravity magic to annihilate everything by swallowing them, the trump card of lord.
「Kyaah!?」
『Impossible-!?』
A scream broke out from Hinata while agitation surged from the elderly nobleman.
It couldn’t be helped. The earth was getting sucked up with violent momentum. The sparking black sphere with diameter of five meter was swallowing them up.
The earth was getting sucked up toward the sky as though gravity didn’t exist. That sight was just like a joke. It was as though heaven and earth had been overturned. Ch 410
――Coolness depth Level VI
What it brought about was clones in number that increased by one digit. The total number was ten thousand. The amount of lord could be mistaken as a new dark cloud as they rushed through the sky.
And then,
「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」「Kokutenkyuu!!」
The sky was completely covered by the secret technique black hole.
「NOwaaah――――!?」
「Etemp-saa―――n!?」
「Retreat retreaat! We’re going back to the grounddd」
Etemp almost got sucked in before Shia caught her midway. They retreated from the sky together with Kaori. Even the divine spirits were retreating from the battlefield in panic. Rune and Cino also almost turned into lost fairies before Enti protected them while yelling 「Stupidddd! Give a warning at least before you do something like thattt!」 in anger. Ch 424
Could black holes merge?The black asterism of destruction. They were sparking as they slowly rotated at the sky, swallowing the “shadow” further to the center. The scene looked like a black galaxy. Ch 424
Here, here and here“Kokutenkyuu” that numbered like the stars in the sky due to ten thousand of lords gathered at the center. They all fused and formed a gigantic star of disaster.
The cleansing pure white light covered the whole Japan. The light also flowed from the foot of the mountain to the peak, making the sacred mountain “Fuji” to shine.
「Sleep for ten thousand years more!!」
『Lend the eight ears of Saoshika to all the gods, asking them to listen and eat!!』
The lord extended one hand toward the gigantic “Kokutenkyuu”. He spread open his five fingers――and closed them in a crushing gesture.
The star shrunk right away. The “Dragon’s shadow” was completely annihilated without even any death throes. Ch 424
The Holy princinct is a pocket reality created by Ehit and consist of multiple dimensions.
1)These dimensions are separated:
2)Separate timeflow?
3)Space or borders between dimensions ?
4)These dimensions differ in size:
5)Ehit throne room(the center):
6)Void:
1)These dimensions are separated:
When he reached the end of the corridor, Hajime touched the multicolored wall that seemed to be the end of this space. Ripples spread outward from the spot that he touched, and his hand slid into the colored wall. It looked like that spot did connect to somewhere else. And judging by his compass, their distance to Yue was the same on either side of the barrier. Vol 12 p45
2)Separate timeflow?
Unfortunately, the compass wasn’t able to give Hajime a clear picture of what was on the other side. In fact, it almost felt like wherever it was connected to was changing in real time, which was why he’d thrown a space-warping grenade over just in case. It was a new type of grenade that twisted the space around it into a whirlpool and crushed anything caught in it. It was extremely lethal while also being perfectly silent. Vol 12 p45
3)Space or borders between dimensions ?
The transition between places was dizzying. A kaleidoscope of colors assailed the group from all sides, making them feel drunk. There was also a disgusting sensation of something slippery brushing against their skin. Fortunately, the whole experience lasted only a few seconds. Vol 12 p46
A second later, the flesh beast’s tentacles shot out toward the two of them. Their ends were tapered and sharp enough to pierce through flesh. Yue pulled away from Hajime’s neck and stuck her hand outtoward the tentacles. The space in front of her warped, tearing open a hole to another dimension. The tentacles passed through the hole and were immediately destroyed.
Yue had opened a portal to another disintegrating section of the Sanctuary and let thembe destroyed along with it. Normally, that would have taken a lot of mana, but as the Sanctuary was falling apart, the borders between dimensions were quite thin and she was able to do it efficiently. Vol 13 p225
4)These dimensions differ in size:
There is other dimensions:“This is the fourth zone we have passed through. Is Ehit toying with us?” Tio asked with a frown.
“He might be. This is his domain, after all. He probably gets to choose where we get transported.”
After passing through the portal atop the clock tower, Hajime and the others had passed through three other zones. The first had been a dimension where the ground and the sky were flipped, and gravity was inconsistent. The objects inside that dimension had seemed to fall in all different directions. The second zone had been a museum of sorts. It had been an underground labyrinth with busts and statues at every corner. The statues were of humans, demons, beastmen, dwarves, and giants, as well as monsters and creatures Hajime had never seen before. The third zone had been a library. There was no sky or ground to speak of, just an endless expanse of white filled with bookshelves. The books were seemingly written in every language under the sun and bound in all sorts of unique ways.
“Is that why all the enemies we ran into were super annoying? Because he’s messing with us?” Shea asked, clapping her hands together in realization.
In the upside-down world, they’d been assailed by a flock of pyramid-shaped inorganic automatons that had been made of some unknown material. They’d been able to control gravity and had moved in a tight formation like fighterplanes. Though in the end, Hajime had blown them all to bits with his Agni Orkans. In the museum world, they’d been attacked by the statues, as everyone had been expecting. Hajime had blown them all to bits too with his Agni Orkans. In the library, the books had cast magic at the party and summoned monsters. And so, Hajime had carried out the biggest book burning in history with his Agni Orkans. Vol 12 p162
The distortion connect them to other dimensions and to the ouside world.The sea of clouds had finally parted, and as it dissipated, the area below it finally became visible. However, the sky below was distorted, as if everyone was looking at it through a fish-eye lens. And far below that distorted space was a familiar sight. Suzu and the others could see a fortress sitting in the middle of a flat plain...with thousands upon thousands of people fighting against an army of apostles. But then, the distortion suddenly vanished, and other distortions appeared elsewhere in the sky in multiple places. They showed the dimensions Shea and the others had passed through, as well as other areas they didn’t recognize.
The ominous rumbling grew stronger, and the distortions that connected to other dimensions started appearing and disappearing more quickly and more frequently than ever. Vol 12 p283
5)Ehit throne room(the center):
Ehit could adjust its size:With Shea’s and Tio’s words of encouragement ringing in his ears, Hajime allowed the pillar of white light to whisk him away. He sped through a kaleidoscope of rainbow-patterned space, then arrived in a world of pure white. It was impossible to tell how far it stretched. He couldn’t see any walls or ceiling or even the ground. Everything everywhere was white, and though he could feel his feet touching something when he looked down, it looked no different from anything else.
If this was Ehit’s throne room, it was a fitting one indeed.
“Welcome to the heart of my Sanctuary." Vol 13 p139
As soon as he reached Hajime’s height, the altar below began to get farther away. It was as if the two of them had suddenly shot up much higher into the air. In truth, though, it was the ground that had gotten farther away, for Ehitruje had expanded the amount of space in this dimension. Vol 13 p142
6)Void:
Shea and the other glanced around, instantly wary. They could see cracks forming in the sky, and it looked like the entire dimension was starting to fall apart. Furthermore the islands that had been damaged in the fight were unable to withstand the dimensional earthquake and started crumbling.
Shea and the others hurriedly took out their Skyboard and rose into the air.
Looking down, Suzu exclaimed, "I-Is that...the ground?!"
The sea of clouds had finally parted, and a it dissipated, the area below it finally became visible. However, the sky below was distorted, as if everyone was looking at it through a fish-eye lens. And far below that distorted space was a familiar sight. Suzu and the others could see a fortress sitting in the middle of a flat plain...with thousands upon thousands of people fighting against an army of apostles. But then, the distortion suddenly vanished, and other distortions appeared elsewhere in the sky in multiple places. They showed dimensions Shea and the others had passed through, as well as other area they didn't recognize.
The ominous rumbling grew stronger, and the distortions that connected to other dimensions started appearing and disappearing more quickly and more frequently than ever.
"I bet this is Hajime-san's doing. He must have started fighting Ehit!"
"Indeed. This Sanctuary is a creation of Ehit's, so it stands to reason that he had the most influence over this space. If it has become this unstable, then it's quite likely that Ehit is being driven into a corner."
Of course, Tio had no proof to back up her conjecture. This dimension might have been simply dissolving because Ehit had begun enacting the final stage of his plan to destroy this world. However, no one thought that was the case for even a moment. Everyone smiled, certain that Shea and Tio were right.
"We better hurry, then, or we'll miss the whole fight," Shizuku replied.
"Yeah! Let's get out of here and meet up with Nagumo-Kun" Suzu said with a nod, and everyone started heading toward the obelisk. The island it had been on had crumbled away, so now it was simply a pure-white pillar floating in the air.
Shea was still a little woozy, so she needed to lean on Shizuku's shoulder and ride on her skyboard but she nevertheless reached out to touch the obilisk without hesitation.
"Hm?"
However, nothing happened when Shea touched the obelisk. When Hajime had last checked his compass, it definitely been pointing to this obelisk, and the portals that Shea and the others had gone through on their way here hadn't required any special activation rules.
Puzzled, Shea touched the obelisk again. Shizuku, Suzu, Tio, Ryutarou, and Kouki all tried as well, but again nothing happened.
"Why?!" Shea shouted, slapping the obelisk over and over.
"It may have something to do with why this dimension has become so unstable. There are more obelisk on the other islands. Let us see if an of them still work," Tio said, though she had a bad feeling they might be trapped here. Still, they all split up to try the other obelisks in the distance.
Unfortunately, none of the activated. And to make matters worse, the cracks in the sky were getting so big that they were breaking apart pieces of the sky...and there was nothing but darkness beyond those shattered segments. If you stared at them long enough, they looked like nothing more than black walls, but as test, Shizuku tried throwing a pebble at one of them.
"Looks like anything that goes in disintegrates," Shizuku said. The stone had turn to dust and vanished as soon as it had hit the blackness.
"This doesn't look too good..."
"I doubt we're somehow special and won't get obliterated if we try to enter..."
"What about the obelisk we used to get in here?" Suzu suggested, and everyone hurriedly headed back there.
Right now, they were more worried about their immediate survival than catching up to Hajime. Even if backtracking lost them time, escaping this dimension was their top priority.
while they hurried back to their starting obelisk, the dimension's destruction started accelerating. It was like a cage slowly constricting around them. Floating islands were swallowed up and destroyed one after the other. The group had to take several detours when the space right in front of the cracked and shattered, exposing only blackness, but eventually, they made it to the obelisk that led back to the abandoned ruins. But unfortunately, that one didn't activate either.
"Oh no...we can't even go back..." Kouki said in a voice tinged with despair. A distortion near the obelisk showed Shea and the others the abandoned ruins they'd come from. It seemed that dimension was also falling apart. It wasn't just here, then. No the entirety of the Sanctuary was crumbling. Vol 12 p283
「So this is something like Noah’s ark huh.」
In the first place they were the people of god. Their magic technology was astounding. The research that they carried out with mad desperation while the danger of destruction was approaching showed astonishing great strides.
A colony of treasure warehouse with miniscule size of grains of sand that numbered in the tens of thousands.
The other dimension that each grain possessed was unified internally to create this vast isolated space.
Even if half of their number was destroyed, there would be no effect to the contained world. At the inside, it was possible to create anything that one wished for by transmuting every kind of mineral particles that were stored inside.
Generation of air and soil, propagation of plants and animals, the technology to preserve them for eternity with time stasis.
The function of reading the information from outside and storing it.
Ability of autonomic movement, camouflage ability by interfering with wind and heat and light, ability to turn into mirage.
And then,
「The function to control all functions and protect the lives inside, me──Eto Shin(Eternal Protector)」Eternal Artifact Ch 3
It was unknown how long they stayed like that. The one who broke the silence first was Eto Shin.
「……I had continued to think within a slowed flow of time.」
「About what?」
「Why didn’t the people wish to continue to live. Why, wasn’t I unable to make the people wish to continue to live.」Eternal Artifact Ch 4
Just wanted to mention that Miledi was slowing the destruction of the Holy Princinct or atleast one of its dimensions.
“Oh, umm...come on, guys, why’re you getting all sappy on me?! I can’t even think of what to say! Anyway, get out of here. I really can’t hold this place together for much longer!” Vol 13 p 239
Miledi smiled to herself, and a second later, her sky-blue mana flared out. Cracks appeared in her golem’s smiley-faced mask and her metal body started fading away from the edges, as if it was disintegrating.
Sparks ran down the body of the golem that had been made with all the knowledge and abilities at the seven greatest Liberators’ disposal, and a giant black sphere appeared above it. Just then, Miledi felt as though she sensed another person’s presence, so she looked up. Vol 13 p240
The swelling black sphere started swallowing everything up. The white room, all of the dimensions it was linked to, the cracks and holes that opened up into empty voids, all of it. It was like a true black hole.
Miledi’s golem was destroyed along with everything else, but her soul glowed brilliantly for one last moment, and she shouted with all her might the words that finally signaled the end of her long, solitary journey.
“I’m back, guys!”
A second later, the Sanctuary and everything in it vanished without a trace.
The dark crimson pall that had hung over all of Tortus inverted itself and started to fall apart. The air creaked and groaned as cracks spread beyond the layer of crimson and started extending up, down, left, right, and in all other directions. It wasn’t just the crimson pall that was falling apart, it seemed, but the entire world. Vol 13 p240
A second later, the mana was sucked back into the Sanctuary, presumably converging on the point where Hajime and Yue were. Then, a pitiful scream echoed throughout the entire world, and though it wasn’t ear-splittingly loud or anything, everyone all across Tortus definitely heard it. And at the same time, a streak of platinum light with dark black miasma swirling inside it rose out of the Sanctuary.
In that moment, everyone was absolutely certain that the light was the lifeblood of a god, spilling out from him. The platinum light dispersed into nothing, and silence returned to the world.
A few seconds later, the destruction of the world stopped spreading and instead turned back inward toward the center of the Sanctuary. It was almost as if it was being sucked in by a powerful black hole.
Once all the cracks were gone from the world, the Sanctuary vanished. Its destruction wasn’t accompanied by an explosion or a shock wave, but instead just silence and a brief ripple of light made up of seven distinct colors.
The bright golden yellow of noon, sunset orange, moonlight silver, verdant green, earthy brown, the obsidian of a night sky, and finally, an all-encompassing tinge of sky blue. As that seven-colored light spread outward, it erased the crimson pall that had settled over the world, returning proper color to the sky.
It was a beautiful spectacle. Vol 13 p247
Summary of what GM users could create:
- Singularity that light and other fundamental particles like mana can't escape.
- BH that warp space-time.
- BH that expel a form of radiation(mana?).
- BH that could absorb world ending destruction.
Arifureta: Black Holes
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