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Spy x Family: Class 25/50 for Anya (I am serious)

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Currently our Anya profile says that she's stronger than Damian who literally blocked a ball thrown at sonic speed, while also saying that she's Below Average Human in LS, which makes no sense considering the amount of force that is required to physically hold an object moving that fast.

Because of this I have made this calculation which would put her LS at 11.35 Tonnes or Class 25. However, there is another thing I'd like to discuss about this verse.

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Currently this calculation seems to accept all the 3 ends from 9-C to 9-B, but only uses the High end for LS, which makes no sense as it makes vs threads confusing. CGMs should decide which end to both AP and LS.

This is relevant for the next argument, as it's shown that Billy was throwing the ball at full strength, as said from Damian, and seen from Billy also getting really frustrated after seeing Anya constantly dodging his throws. What does this mean?

That depending on what end the CGMs decide to use for the feat of Billy beding the bamp, the calc shall be either used or not, as two things will happen:

First solution: The High end is 26.44 Tonnes, aka literally x2.33 in gap. Even if Damian downscales, he's definitely not gonna do that if he's that beneath him in LS, meaning that the calc shouldn't be used, and both Anya and Damian get an "At most Class 50"

Second solution: Both the Low end and Mid end (6.6 and 14.87 Tonnes respectively) would instead allow my calc to be used as the former is lower than it, and latter is just x1.31 above my calc, which is not that far and would be a reasonable gap between Billy and Damian. However this would make the verse lose the Class 50 scaling, and Anya would get her AP get downgraded to either a lower degree of 9-B (She should get an "At most" anyway as she's far weaker than Billy obviously), or straight up 9-C+ off her scaling above Damian's 8235.43 Joules feat, which is x1.14 lower than Billy's 9356 J (so a reasonable gap where an "At most" isn't needed).

Another issue I found that the verse's LS scaling is using Loid punching the table. However, if you see the feat, it's just Striking Strength, meaning that it cannot be used as LS.

TLDR:
  • Anya's AP gets downgraded to either 9-C+ or At most 9-B.
  • Anya's LS becomes either Class 25 or At most Class 50.
  • Loid punching the table shouldn't be used for LS.
 
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Anyways this feels outlier-y. I can understand AP since it is oddly somewhat consistent but Class 25-50? No, I feel like i distinctly remember Anya struggling to lift stuff in the series.
 
Arceus0x said:
Anyways this feels outlier-y. I can understand AP since it is oddly somewhat consistent but Class 25-50? No, I feel like i distinctly remember Anya struggling to lift stuff in the series.
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The feat is both AP and LS that's the issue. You can't gatekeep one and let out the other as the thing in question is physically blocking a moving object.

It's basically keeping what's the most convenient thing but it just cannot work.

Besides, aren't most of these instances just gags? Like, this for example is clearly made for the fun factor, and this other one was thrown by Yor. Though if there are other anti-feats that outweight this, then I suppose that Anya just gets down to 9-C, depends on what the other supporters say as I am not that much in SxF, just noticed that detail that irked me.
 
StrymULTRA said:
The feat is both AP and LS that's the issue. You can't gatekeep one and let out the other as the thing in question is physically blocking a moving object.

It's basically keeping what's the most convenient thing but it just cannot work.

Besides, aren't most of these instances just gags? Like, this for example is clearly made for the fun factor, and this other one was thrown by Yor. Though if there are other anti-feats that outweight this, then I suppose that Anya just gets down to 9-C, depends on what the other supporters say as I am not that much in SxF, just noticed that detail that irked me.
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I think Anya shouldn't be 9-B. I can sorta-kinda understand 9-C but in the first place this is too much of an outlier. They're gags but her entire feat-list is gags. If she consistently has the strength of a small child then she should scale to a small child. Cause no way in hell is she class 50.
 
Arceus0x said:
I think Anya shouldn't be 9-B. I can sorta-kinda understand 9-C but in the first place this is too much of an outlier. They're gags but her entire feat-list is gags. If she consistently has the strength of a small child then she should scale to a small child. Cause no way in hell is she class 50.
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The entire featlist being gags doesn't somehow make the feats irrelevant especially if they're consistent

Otherwise though mathematically we could accept the feat in both AP and LS that part isn't debatable as calculating the stuff isn't wrong to do but you can determine whats consistent after the fact and if the gags place her consistently here than whats the real argument. This is just me speaking as a non spy family goon though
 
Dalesean027 said:
The entire featlist being gags doesn't somehow make the feats irrelevant especially if they're consistent
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If in most serious scenarios she's treated as a legitimate child with child-like physical abilities rather than someone who punches harder than any living person and can bench press a F-150, then there is indeed a large contradiction in her portrayal which makes those higher end fights questionable.

To my knowledge she's consistently overpowered by adults, scores incredibly low on physical activities like strength contests and gets exhausted pretty easily. None of which lines up with her being so high unless we're saying every human in Spy x Family should upscale from Anya.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
None of which lines up with her being so high unless we're saying every human in Spy x Family should upscale from Anya.
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I mean... yeah?

The feat isn't even performed by her but from Damian, and Billy is just another kid despite his comical stature, so we got 3 kids with each a Tier 9 feat (Billy bending the bamp, Damian blocking the subsonic ball, and Anya making Damian fly several meters with a punch).

It's clear that the SxF baseline humans are far above the irl ones. We do have verses where this happens (ex. Gravity Falls, Pokémon, Danganronpa, Nasuverse or Total Drama), so this shouldn't be any different.
 
The at most 9-B and At most Class 50 make sense
offtopic but the fact there's a Ayanokouji CRT and a Anya CRT happening at the same time is hilarious
 
Anya being stronger than adults and professional fighters is peak powerscaling
 
Dalesean027 said:
The entire featlist being gags doesn't somehow make the feats irrelevant especially if they're consistent

Otherwise though mathematically we could accept the feat in both AP and LS that part isn't debatable as calculating the stuff isn't wrong to do but you can determine whats consistent after the fact and if the gags place her consistently here than whats the real argument. This is just me speaking as a non spy family goon though
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StrymULTRA said:
Currently this calculation seems to accept all the 3 ends from 9-C to 9-B, but only uses the High end for LS, which makes no sense as it makes vs threads confusing. CGMs should decide which end to both AP and LS.
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About this, which end do you think would work here?
 
Well im just evaluating the math, like I said im not a spy family good so im leaving it yall to argue the consistency
 
Dalesean accepts looks good to me also.

And I think it's probably consistent enough to scale.

If a lot of people have objections related to the intended portrayal, we could always compromise at Possibly.
 
FinePoint said:
Dalesean accepts looks good to me also.

And I think it's probably consistent enough to scale.

If a lot of people have objections related to the intended portrayal, we could always compromise at Possibly.
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I don't think that many objected it, Qawself at most seemed to just question it rather than giving a disagreement, but we can always ask him for a confirmation.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Btw, regarding votes, I assume it's a 3-1, right, assuming that Dale agreed too?
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Yeah it would be 3-1. Dale said the math looked fine, though he noted he didn't know how consistent it was for the franchise.
 
FinePoint said:
Would you be willing to compromise with a Possibly?
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I'd make some other staff come in 1st though. I don't really want a "possibly" because of a staff having vibes of it being inconsistent with no real scans.
 
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