that would be because she is now capable of dodging him when previously she would have never been able to, it doesn't mean he is for whatever reason moving at top speed, more so he is tweakin the opponent he should have been able to blitz with ease is not dodging his attacks
He was moving at close to top speeds even if he wasn't going exactly at mach 3. Naoya was still shattering windows by flying, he was still supersonic.
close or faster than sound, sure, but he wasn't mach 3, and neither does she scale to that speed
He was curled up and accelerating when Maki started chasing after him, so he was probably approaching Mach 3. Maki was literally dodging his blows.
Why wouldnt he be mach 3
He was making sharp turns which is supposedly counter-intuitive to how his Mach 3 propulsion functions. I don't know how exactly he's limited to moving in a straight line personally.
He doesnt need to go straight to reach that speed in his cursed form. He was making tons of loops even when he initially went to that speed.
Tell that to passerby, not me.
my guy, he accelerates and builds up speed while turning in a massive turn radius, not while running for a bit or turning across a few meters.
because that's not how acceleration works??
Hmm. Yeah that checks out ig. Maki said Toji would've been able to deflect Mach 3 Naoya, even though that was just her statement but it still supports the supersonic+ Maki scaling. Even if she doesn't scale to Kenjaku's feat.
enough to know he is backing up to gain speed? yesWe dont need multiple panels worth of him building up speed again to know he reached top speed, this is enough
Naoya decides to fly away to accelerate, Kamo stated it would be the same attack as last time, naoya is then frustrated he cant hit maki despite being so fast. Why would he be crashing out if he was moving slower than he could. He's also stated to curl up with reaching top speed, and he was curled when flying at maki.
I care about accuracy
it being the same attack and that same attack carrying the same ammount of speed are completely different concepts
you're just repeating the same talking points
it doesn't matter that he is raging, that doesn't constitue evidence of him reaching his top speed
i don't know if he was curled up against maki but that could also be a thing so he doesn't want to harm himself as he is demolishing buildings left right and center, no matter how you cut it, there is no objective evidence for him going at mach 3 ever again in that fight, neither how his propulsion was shown to work support it, nor how acceleration itself actually works does, if we go by your interpretation he was an idiot going in circles for no reason when he could have instantly reached mach 3 whenever he wants to even when taking sharp turns
citation for the bolded part?
...are we seeing the manga panel because in what world is that "comparabale distance"?
Toji being able to react to a mach 3 attack he could sens coming from dozens or hundreds of meters by aim dodging isn't the evidence you think it is for his speed to be higher than mach 3
yeah but the scenes say otherwise, unless you mean she got faster after training off screen, in which case i agree there is a possibility of her being comparable to that speed assuming heavenly restriciton fellas can grow stronger what i disagree with is her being as fast as he is in these specific scenes
Then yall are debating for no reason if it aint about the crt
I pointed that out a day agoThen yall are debating for no reason if it aint about the crt
Isn't it the same thing? What's the difference?
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Oh yeah then it does fall under reaction speed. So would this give high tiers subsonic speed with supersonic+ reactions? Or do they scale to the Sukuna meteor feat?Combat Speed:Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
The speed at which a character can fight.
Reaction Speed:
Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed.
For example, let's say that character A shoots at character B with a gun and character B dodges. That is reaction speed. Keep in mind, sometimes a person aim dodges and it is not as good of a feat.
As another example, let's say that character A uses a minigun on character B, but the minigun takes a second or two to charge up and Character B sees this. If Character B dodges it is considered aim dodging since he/she knew that the attack was going to happen.
Reaction speed is reacting to an attack that you don't know is going to happen, or at a very close range. The reaction speed of a character also tends to be higher than their movement speed.
Kenjaku's feat would fall under a reaction feat
also about this calc, why was Kusakabe's and Panda's speed for dodging the meteor not measured?
Didnt think bout doing it cause they do it in a lot of frames. It can be calced.
Ye i forgot about noting the type of speed there. Noted nowCombat Speed:Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
The speed at which a character can fight.
Reaction Speed:
Reaction speed is the speed at which a character can react to an event or action. This usually only grants a short movement upon reaction, whereas several movements at the same speed switch it to combat speed.
For example, let's say that character A shoots at character B with a gun and character B dodges. That is reaction speed. Keep in mind, sometimes a person aim dodges and it is not as good of a feat.
As another example, let's say that character A uses a minigun on character B, but the minigun takes a second or two to charge up and Character B sees this. If Character B dodges it is considered aim dodging since he/she knew that the attack was going to happen.
Reaction speed is reacting to an attack that you don't know is going to happen, or at a very close range. The reaction speed of a character also tends to be higher than their movement speed.
Kenjaku's feat would fall under a reaction feat
Cause he is faster than eye
What are you trying to make their combat speed then? That seems pretty important to add
Granite blast speed should work since yuta scales to it
You should add it to the proposals then. Post-awakening Teen Gojo would scale to the Supersonic+ value too for blitzing Toji's reactions
Oh right there was the Yuta calc waiting for evaluation. Isn't Uraume's calc a reaction speed calc though? And wouldn't using the anime interpretation make it faster since they raised their hands up while Piercing Blood was pretty close.
Isn't that subsonic+? tho? And where was that stated again?
Its subsonic. Its not stated but its shown, its like if a character breaks the sound barrier so you use supersonic speed for it.
oh boy I can already picture how that's going to go down
