TV Dexter General CRT

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No problem.

Anyway, I have a personal policy of not signing off on any CRTs with pending calculations, so I will refrain from voting until that's all sorted.

I've removed Kurt's speed upgrade from this CRT for another I will make in the future since its taking time for the calc to be evaluated, so this one should be good for evaluation

 

[FinePoint]

I've removed Kurt's speed upgrade from this CRT for another I will make in the future since its taking time for the calc to be evaluated, so this one should be good for evaluation

In that case, I don't see anything wrong with the scaling justifications, and it seems complete (taking into account possible extra factors like surprise).

 

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[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

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[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Dexter being aware enough to realize an intruder (Issak Sirkos) was in his house and smart enough to avoid his assassination and lure him into a public space is also worth acknowledging.

 

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[Joe_goldberb]

Why isn’t rays profile accepted yet it’s fully completed

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Speaking of rays profile I do have some issues with Ray having expert fighter on has profile as most of his feats are lackluster and not combat skills

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

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[69Blood69]

Why isn’t rays profile accepted yet it’s fully completed

This CRT isn't accepted yet (It needs two staff votes and only once accepted) so im wating before publishing.

Speaking of rays profile I do have some issues with Ray having expert fighter on has profile as most of his feats are lackluster and not combat skills

I mean he was able to fight 4 cops at the same time which is something that not even excperienced fighters IRL could do and Batista implied that it wasn't just a strenght feat but also a combat skill one and that he is also a better fighter than him.

 

[Joe_goldberb]

This CRT isn't accepted yet (It needs two staff votes and only once accepted) so im wating before publishing.

I mean he was able to fight 4 cops at the same time which is something that not even excperienced fighters IRL could do and Batista implied that it wasn't just a strenght feat but also a combat skill one and that he is also a better fighter than him.

Thats not combat at all what Ray did was push the cops in that scene there’s no fighting knowledge there and just because Batista said he couldn’t fight 4 cops doesn’t mean it’s a good feat it’s just strength with thag logic Joe pushing Ryan is a good feat because Ryan is a boxer most of rays feats like kicking debs gun training boxing and bumping Dexter off are all debunkable

 

[Joe_goldberb]

This CRT isn't accepted yet (It needs two staff votes and only once accepted) so im wating before publishing.

I mean he was able to fight 4 cops at the same time which is something that not even excperienced fighters IRL could do and Batista implied that it wasn't just a strenght feat but also a combat skill one and that he is also a better fighter than him.

Batista is devoid of combat feats besides one statement and a basic bar fight tbh neither are impressive Ray or Batista

 

[Joe_goldberb]

Thats not combat at all what Ray did was push the cops in that scene there’s no fighting knowledge there and just because Batista said he couldn’t fight 4 cops doesn’t mean it’s a good feat it’s just strength with thag logic Joe pushing Ryan is a good feat because Ryan is a boxer most of rays feats like kicking debs gun training boxing and bumping Dexter off are all debunkable

So here’s me debunking basically every combat feat (note I do jiujtsiu and have knowledge/skills on judo wrestling karate and boxing) let’s start with boxing Ray doesn’t train boxing all he’s doing is hitting a bag he’s not learning boxing moves like duck in’s parry’s jabs etc we never see him use either also he didn’t even punch it properly he didn’t extend his arm while punching for him fighting cops all he did was push them that’s not skill it’s just strenght for him kicking Deb’s gun one its extremely criticized in the Martial arts community to try to kick weapons and 2 that kick was nothing special he didn’t do a move or chamber his leg for the kick a good example for a kick is Reagan using a front or push kick on Joe as she chambered her legs for it for him bumping Dexter there is a technique to do it but Ray didn’t do that Ray just kneed Dexter off it’s mostly strenght Joe did something extremely similar to Reagan by rolling over both are taught in jiujitsu but Ray didn’t do it correctly Joe did but they didn’t accept it for Joe cause it’s a strenght feat
Ray is not a good fighter nor was his feats good
Best you can put is that he can fight with Dexter even then he didn’t do anything and was getting outskilled

 

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Thats not combat at all what Ray did was push the cops in that scene there’s no fighting knowledge there and just because Batista said he couldn’t fight 4 cops doesn’t mean it’s a good feat it’s just strength with thag logic Joe pushing Ryan is a good feat because Ryan is a boxer most of rays feats like kicking debs gun training boxing and bumping Dexter off are all debunkable

We didn't get the full extent of the fight and you are ignoring Batista statement. "And he put up one hell of a fight". I agree for debra's feat that its not actually impressive.

Batista is devoid of combat feats besides one statement and a basic bar fight tbh neither are impressive Ray or Batista

So fighting four cops isn't impressive? and Batista is still shown to be a decent fighter like in the bar fight you mentioned.

So here’s me debunking basically every combat feat (note I do jiujtsiu and have knowledge/skills on judo wrestling karate and boxing) let’s start with boxing Ray doesn’t train boxing all he’s doing is hitting a bag he’s not learning boxing moves like duck in’s parry’s jabs etc we never see him use either also he didn’t even punch it properly he didn’t extend his arm while punching for him fighting cops all he did was push them that’s not skill it’s just strenght for him kicking Deb’s gun one its extremely criticized in the Martial arts community to try to kick weapons and 2 that kick was nothing special he didn’t do a move or chamber his leg for the kick a good example for a kick is Reagan using a front or push kick on Joe as she chambered her legs for it for him bumping Dexter there is a technique to do it but Ray didn’t do that Ray just kneed Dexter off it’s mostly strenght Joe did something extremely similar to Reagan by rolling over both are taught in jiujitsu but Ray didn’t do it correctly Joe did but they didn’t accept it for Joe cause it’s a strenght feat
Ray is not a good fighter nor was his feats good
Best you can put is that he can fight with Dexter even then he didn’t do anything and was getting outskilled

I completely disagree. You are assuming he doesn't anything about boxing even though we don't see him fully training. Why would he even do those techniques that you mentioned on a punching bag? And like I said before, we didn't get the full extent of the fight between him and cops. Also like I said you are right about kicking the gun tho

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

So here’s me debunking basically every combat feat (note I do jiujtsiu and have knowledge/skills on judo wrestling karate and boxing) let’s start with boxing Ray doesn’t train boxing all he’s doing is hitting a bag he’s not learning boxing moves like duck in’s parry’s jabs etc we never see him use either also he didn’t even punch it properly he didn’t extend his arm while punching for him fighting cops all he did was push them that’s not skill it’s just strenght for him kicking Deb’s gun one its extremely criticized in the Martial arts community to try to kick weapons and 2 that kick was nothing special he didn’t do a move or chamber his leg for the kick a good example for a kick is Reagan using a front or push kick on Joe as she chambered her legs for it for him bumping Dexter there is a technique to do it but Ray didn’t do that Ray just kneed Dexter off it’s mostly strenght Joe did something extremely similar to Reagan by rolling over both are taught in jiujitsu but Ray didn’t do it correctly Joe did but they didn’t accept it for Joe cause it’s a strenght feat
Ray is not a good fighter nor was his feats good
Best you can put is that he can fight with Dexter even then he didn’t do anything and was getting outskilled

So your arguement for why Ray is a bad fighter is because... he wasn't practicing ducking and parrys... on a stationary punching bag

And because his actor isn't a martial artist & threw shotty punches

...Ok

 

[Joe_goldberb]

We didn't get the full extent of the fight and you are ignoring Batista statement. "And he put up one hell of a fight". I agree for debra's feat that its not actually impressive.

So fighting four cops isn't impressive? and Batista is still shown to be a decent fighter like in the bar fight you mentioned.

I completely disagree. You are assuming he doesn't anything about boxing even though we don't see him fully training. Why would he even do those techniques that you mentioned on a punching bag? And like I said before, we didn't get the full extent of the fight between him and cops. Also like I said you are right about kicking the gun tho

So your arguement for why Ray is a bad fighter is because... he wasn't practicing ducking and parrys... on a stationary punching bag

And because his actor isn't a martial artist & threw shotty punches

...Ok

If the character doesn’t demonstrate the skills of boxing or does any real boxing training why assume he does boxing hitting a bag isn’t boxing and he’s not even at a boxing gym he’s at a regular gym

 

[Joe_goldberb]

We didn't get the full extent of the fight and you are ignoring Batista statement. "And he put up one hell of a fight". I agree for debra's feat that its not actually impressive.

So fighting four cops isn't impressive? and Batista is still shown to be a decent fighter like in the bar fight you mentioned.

I completely disagree. You are assuming he doesn't anything about boxing even though we don't see him fully training. Why would he even do those techniques that you mentioned on a punching bag? And like I said before, we didn't get the full extent of the fight between him and cops. Also like I said you are right about kicking the gun tho

 

[Joe_goldberb]

we legit saw the full fight the cops saw Ray he pushed them away then they beat him with a stick/rod barista statment is okay ig but barista himself had lackluster combat feats so it’s not any better that bar right shows legit no combat skill Batista isn’t that skilled either and pushing people isn’t combat and pushing people isn’t any combat it’s just strenght and your just assuming that it was impressive cause some invalid authority (Bastia) said it was doesn’t mean it’s a good feat and you said he did a overhead flip on Dexter that’s not true either the overhead flip is taught from a standing or closed gaurd position Dexter was in a full mount position you cannot perform that flip in a mount position so that should be removed as that’s just another strenght feat
Your assuming because he punched a bag once means he fully trains boxing which isn’t the case it’s never even stated or implied he trains he hit a bag in a regular gym that’s not boxing that’s just bag hitting pushing people isn’t combat either and a random statement from Batista doesn’t mean it’s good

 

[Joe_goldberb]

So your arguement for why Ray is a bad fighter is because... he wasn't practicing ducking and parrys... on a stationary punching bag

And because his actor isn't a martial artist & threw shotty punches

...Ok

character doesn't throw proper punches doesn't train in a actual boxing gym doesn't show any real boxing skills never even used striking in any of his many fight scenes =skilled in boxing don't use the excuse for the actor it's not hard to throw a proper punch and Dexter many times just has terrible fight scene directing like when they made doakes uppercut a jab or Dexter failing to do a proper armbar they can redo it if you Hannibal Barry and other shows can properly do punches and action then it's not a excuse that Dexter can't

 

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we legit saw the full fight the cops saw Ray he pushed them away then they beat him with a stick/rod barista statment is okay ig but barista himself had lackluster combat feats so it’s not any better that bar right shows legit no combat skill Batista isn’t that skilled either and pushing people isn’t combat and pushing people isn’t any combat it’s just strenght and your just assuming that it was impressive cause some invalid authority (Bastia) said it was doesn’t mean it’s a good feat and you said he did a overhead flip on Dexter that’s not true either the overhead flip is taught from a standing or closed gaurd position Dexter was in a full mount position you cannot perform that flip in a mount position so that should be removed as that’s just another strenght feat
Your assuming because he punched a bag once means he fully trains boxing which isn’t the case it’s never even stated or implied he trains he hit a bag in a regular gym that’s not boxing that’s just bag hitting pushing people isn’t combat either and a random statement from Batista doesn’t mean it’s good

We legit just saw the ending of the fight where they restrain him. We didn't saw the entire fight. And you are still ignoring Batista statements which implies that it also a combat feat than rather just a strength one.

we legit saw the full fight the cops saw Ray he pushed them away then they beat him with a stick/rod barista statment is okay ig but barista himself had lackluster combat feats so it’s not any better that bar right shows legit no combat skill Batista isn’t that skilled either and pushing people isn’t combat and pushing people isn’t any combat it’s just strenght and your just assuming that it was impressive cause some invalid authority (Bastia) said it was doesn’t mean it’s a good feat and you said he did a overhead flip on Dexter that’s not true either the overhead flip is taught from a standing or closed gaurd position Dexter was in a full mount position you cannot perform that flip in a mount position so that should be removed as that’s just another strenght feat
Your assuming because he punched a bag once means he fully trains boxing which isn’t the case it’s never even stated or implied he trains he hit a bag in a regular gym that’s not boxing that’s just bag hitting pushing people isn’t combat either and a random statement from Batista doesn’t mean it’s good

So basically dodging a punch and then beating another police seargent is not a good feat? That's literally better than the average person lol. And how is those random statements. You are just massively underplaying these feats

character doesn't throw proper punches doesn't train in a actual boxing gym doesn't show any real boxing skills never even used striking in any of his many fight scenes =skilled in boxing don't use the excuse for the actor it's not hard to throw a proper punch and Dexter many times just has terrible fight scene directing like when they made doakes uppercut a jab or Dexter failing to do a proper armbar they can redo it if you Hannibal Barry and other shows can properly do punches and action then it's not a excuse that Dexter can't

Terrible fight scenes? He threw a correct jab and Dexter correctly countered by placing him in a hold in which Doakes couldn't get out of and thats while not even trying. And he was a special ops too. We already talked about this in the Cary vs Dexter thread and no one agreed with you. I think its enough to stop it here. If you are willing to continue, just go to the Dexter Disscusion Thread, this has nothing to do with the CRT.

 

[Joe_goldberb]

We legit just saw the ending of the fight where they restrain him. We didn't saw the entire fight. And you are still ignoring Batista statements which implies that it also a combat feat than rather just a strength one.

So basically dodging a punch and then beating another police seargent is not a good feat? That's literally better than the average person lol. And how is those random statements. You are just massively underplaying these feats

Terrible fight scenes? He threw a correct jab and Dexter correctly countered by placing him in a hold in which Doakes couldn't get out of and thats while not even trying. And he was a special ops too. We already talked about this in the Cary vs Dexter thread and no one agreed with you. I think its enough to stop it here. If you are willing to continue, just go to the Dexter Disscusion Thread, this has nothing to do with the CRT.

Just Because random people agree with you doesn’t mean it’s valid for your trying to use a popular opinion and a invalid authority as your argument basis one that Russian tie was completely incorrect your supposed to bend your knees and push your opponent forward so there knees would bend aswell also your hand should be placed on the shoulder not throat and no that shot was complete trash doakes did a proper liver shot then decided to uppercut a jab I don’t care what random untrained people who don’t know what real combat is think is correct they cleary have no knowledge on martial arts and I’m correcting there logic and my apologies I will move to Dexter discussion thread
I’m not underestimating these feats there just not that good and are mostly just strenght and speed feats with basic street fighting moves I don’t even think basita got in a orthodoxed stance in that scene

 

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This CRT seems to be missing quite a bit of New Blood stuff. Like his knowledge of guns and hunting is fairly extensive, which could add to his P&A’s and intelligence. Even if he’s notably sloppy in the first few episodes, he can still throw off an entire police force by manipulating crime scenes and making scent trails.

 

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[Joe_goldberb]

Feats to add for dexters profile
Performed a o goshi/hip Toss on Aaron Spencer
Used a front/push kick on Zoey we saw him chamber his legs so it was done correctly
Which is a Muay Thai/taekwondo method among others
When killing the hitman in Season 7, Dexter uses a technique known as the “Osoto-gari”.






This technique is mainly used in Judo, but also Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

Osotogari - Wikipedia

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Here Are The Top 4 Judo Throws For BJJ

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a martial art that has gained massive popularity worldwide for its highly effective ground-fighting techniques and submissions. However, in the world of BJJ…

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[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

This lines up with Doakes stating he knows advanced jujitsu.

 

[Joe_goldberb]

This lines up with Doakes stating he knows advanced jujitsu.

Dexters jiujtsiu is okay he mainly just throws which is a part of jiujitsu but his actual jiujitsu beside throwing is pretty lackluster he kinda messes up basic mechanics imo he’s around a blue belt level which makes sense cause most people leave after gaining it and it’s not even mentioned in og sin that he took classes
He mainly uses beginner moves like rear naked choke