Non-Human Body Destruction values

[Rogue_Forge]

There are several feats throughout fiction were a large animal like a kaiju or mythical beast is killed, sometimes by being torn to pieces or blown to bits, but I haven't seen a destruction value for animal flesh or animal bodies that could be used as a bare minimum for these creatures

And this is for creatures that don't already have feats that would put there destruction at a different, usually much higher, number, most kaiju killing feats I've seen just use the destruction of other stuff around the kaiju for the feat, which massively downscales it

Here's some different things that could be added

Humans on average can lift 65 kg (on the Lifting strength page), and have a grip strength of 85 psi

Snake Muscles (for serpents) can, on average, squeeze 1.32x more than a human (between 8 & 300 psi, average = 154) meaning their muscles and bones are 1.32x stronger than a humans and thus 1.32x more durable (Cant really use LS for this so grip it is)

Bovines (for more cow like creatures) can lift an average of 850 kg (I do have problems with the body weight = LS thing) meaning their muscles and bones need to be 13x stronger than humans

and probably the main one for most Kaiju, Reptiles

The "average" weight of reptiles (Taking average weight of the smallest and largest) gives us 500.000065 kg (0.00013 kg & 1000kg) making their muscles and bones need to withstand/exert 7.69x more force than humans

and yeah yeah "massive outlier vs massive outlier" but most kaiju are never stated exactly what they are so using the absolute minimum vs absolute maximum is, somewhat fare, it would be better to use like 100 different reptile weights though

Anyways, final tally multiplying these with the human body destruction values

Serpent:

Fragmentation: 5.808 J/cc

V. Fragmentation: 9.94356 J/cc J/cc

Pulverization: 17.028 J/cc

Vaporization: 6123.15 J/cc

Bovine:

Fragmentation: 57.2 J/cc

V. Fragmentation: 97.929 J/cc

Pulverization: 167.7 J/cc

Vaporization: 60303.75 J/cc

Reptile:

Fragmentation: 33.836 J/cc

V. Fragmentation: 57.92877 J/cc

Pulverization: 99.201 J/cc

Vaporization: 35671.9875 J/cc

 

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[Ezaru]

The "average" weight of reptiles (Taking average weight of the smallest and largest) gives us 500.000065 kg (0.00013 kg & 1000kg) making their muscles and bones need to withstand/exert 7.69x more force than humans

I dont think it like, works this way?

Just because say, a T-rex is 100x heavier than a human doesnt mean it takes 100x more j/cc to blow up

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I dont think it like, works this way?

Just because say, a T-rex is 100x heavier than a human doesnt mean it takes 100x more j/cc to blow up

Its more about muscle mass density, T-rex is much larger than a human so it would take less J/cc to blow up but even the largest Reptiles are comparable in size to humans

And although I disagree with it, the wiki treats characters weights as LS values which you can use to scale the strength of muscles compared to humans with, even though they probably shouldn't be able too but that's an entirely different discussion

 

[Ezaru]

Its more about muscle mass density, T-rex is much larger than a human so it would take less J/cc to blow up but even the largest Reptiles are comparable in size to humans

And although I disagree with it, the wiki treats characters weights as LS values which you can use to scale the strength of muscles compared to humans with, even though they probably shouldn't be able too but that's an entirely different discussion

Can you maybe use muscle density averages directly then?

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Can you maybe use muscle density averages directly then?

The problem with that (and the main reason I didn't just do that) Is that searching "Average Reptile Muscle density" gives you the same answer as every other animal on earth (1.06g/cm^3) which doesn't align with the fact that most animals should have denser/sparser muscles than humans

if humans, chimps and squirrels all have the same muscle density as google says, than equal sized versions of these would be roughly as durable as each other and although I cant say for the squirrel, chimps are far more durable than humans even when they're smaller so I don't even think that googles general mammal muscle density is correct

 

[Ezaru]

The problem with that (and the main reason I didn't just do that) Is that searching "Average Reptile Muscle density" gives you the same answer as every other animal on earth (1.06g/cm^3) which doesn't align with the fact that most animals should have denser/sparser muscles than humans

if humans, chimps and squirrels all have the same muscle density as google says, than equal sized versions of these would be roughly as durable as each other and although I cant say for the squirrel, chimps are far more durable than humans even when they're smaller so I don't even think that googles general mammal muscle density is correct

Yeah I am finding the same results all 1.00-1.1 at most

I dont know why chimps are more durable but I know you cant just multiply the joules values like that