Hellua Boss: Taking down Stolas' WOG

[TugiaTheNarrator]

So currently we have this WOG statement being used to scale Stolas to Alastor's level.
However, Vivzie didn't definitely say Stolas was stronger, and it was more like she wasn't sure but she was leaning more towards Stolas.
Plus she only mentioned powers, never anything about physicals, so it would at best be "possibly 8-A" but even then I'd still disagree due to it being WOG.

Here's my version of the downgrade: "Large Building level physically, Large Mountain level with Environmental Destruction via his Grimoire"

So this will be downgrading Stolas and Andrealphus (since he scales to Stolas)

 

[Catzlaflame]

I agree that the statement is way to vague to upscale, but in all fairness, looking at the page, that’s only 1 sentence of the justification it seems

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I agree that the statement is way to vague to upscale, but in all fairness, looking at the page, that’s only 1 sentence of the justification it seems

So you agree with the downgrade?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Easy agree

 

[FinePoint]

I agree we probably shouldn't use this statement since she literally says she doesn't know.

I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a Possibly attached to it, though.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I agree we probably shouldn't use this statement since she literally says she doesn't know.

I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a Possibly attached to it, though.

So is that all we need?

 

[DaReaperMan]

I am going to drop an AM quote the next time I see one of you people make a thread for Stolas or the imps that isn't fixing their dogshit ass profiles.

Anyways, drop his physicals to Imp level, keep his overall magic at 8-A. Hierarchy of hell and all that means Stolas is stronger than any singular sinner in some way shape or form, and parting the clouds for the equivalent of a ******* magic show isn't that.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I agree with this. That statement is vague and compares only the magic of the two, not the physicals.

Moreover, it seems that Goetia demons are much more about power rather than physicals. Andrealphus was harmed by an imp and depowered Stolas, meaning that Andrealphus is comparable to imps and a regular demon like depowered Stolas, as well as that Stolas with and without Goetia status and powers is same physically to a Goetia demon, so his hierarchy stuff has nothing to do with the physicals but rather just magic/powers.

I would’ve loved if we did Stolas and IMP Tier downgrade at the same time, as discussed on Reaper’s wall, but eh, since you already did the thing, I guess it will be separate.

P. S. Downgrade Andrealfodder too.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

P. S. Downgrade Andrealfodder too.

So this will be downgrading Stolas and Andrealphus (since he scales to Stolas)

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

So uh, do we downgrade them now (I got 2 staff here)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

My bad for not noticing that last sentence on the OP lol

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So uh, do we downgrade them now (I got 2 staff here)

I think grace is over so I think you can downgrade them now

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

Since only one of the staffs agreed to “possibly 8-A” I’d still need someone else to decide the factor

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

gotcha

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a Possibly attached to it, though.

Yeah I agree. I’d say

Large Building level physically (Even when mostly depowered by Satan, he still managed to badly hurt and briefly overpower Andrealphus), possibly Multi-City Block level with his powers (Vivziepop isn’t sure whether he or Alastor would win in a fight. Is the patriarch of the Goetia family, a separate but similarly high-ranking hierarchical status to the Overlords, and is capable of using magic, as he possesses a level of power far above the norm, making him far superior to non-magic users such as Sir Pentious, who survived the destruction of his airship and Angel Dust and Cherri Bomb, who can harm Pentious), Large Mountain level with Environmental Destruction via his Grimoire (Was able to twist the sky by using his Grimoire)

As for Andrealphus, I’d say

Large Building level physically, possibly Multi-City Block level with his powers (Fought Stolas and the I.M.P together)

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

gotcha

Also I think he still should be “possibly 8-A with his powers” due to upscaling Sir Pentious who is this powerful

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

fine by me

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I am going to drop an AM quote the next time I see one of you people make a thread for Stolas or the imps that isn't fixing their dogshit ass profiles.

In your personal opinion, what do you think needs to be fixed with their profiles?
I already know you want there to be a mention or something about Goetia regeneration and the large building calc to be removed from the imps but what else would you want? Genuinely curious

 

[DaReaperMan]

In your personal opinion, what do you think needs to be fixed with their profiles?
I already know you want there to be a mention or something about Goetia regeneration and the large building calc to be removed from the imps but what else would you want? Genuinely curious

The last time those profiles were properly updated was episode 4 of Helluva boss. SEASON ONE. If that.

Outdated does not even begin to describe them, like honestly lmfao

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

The last time those profiles were properly updated was episode 4 of Helluva boss. SEASON ONE. If that.

Outdated does not even begin to describe them, like honestly lmfao

I see. Well, i'll begin working on them later. I'm working on a collection of stuff for the verse as a whole so i'm heavily working on it

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Moreover, it seems that Goetia demons are much more about power rather than physicals. Andrealphus was harmed by an imp

My brother in scaling, a transformed loona who's likely gotten some form of boost (That is, admittedly, unknown) is NOT an imp... Plus Andrealfodder was pretty confident being able to kill blitzo with his bare hands and restrained him so i'd personally say physically he's superior to imps. Not City block level, don't get it twisted. Just unknowingly above imp level physically.
Downgrades imminent

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I'm fine with possibly.

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

alright now we can downgrade them

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

just did

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Excellent.
Agenda is maintained /j

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

guys I just forgot striker as well can I apply these to him?

I agree we probably shouldn't use this statement since she literally says she doesn't know.

I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a Possibly attached to it, though.

I'm fine with possibly.

I agree that the statement is way to vague to upscale, but in all fairness, looking at the page, that’s only 1 sentence of the justification it seems

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

guys I just forgot striker as well can I apply these to him?

After forgetting this, coming back, and thinking it over, i think you should downgrade Striker since Stolas' durablity is now Large Building and just be far higher with angelic weapons...like all angelic weapon tiers on this site

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

After forgetting this, coming back, and thinking it over, i think you should downgrade Striker since Stolas' durablity is now Large Building and just be far higher with angelic weapons...like all angelic weapon tiers on this site

do I need staff vote or nah?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

do I need staff vote or nah?

Just an adjustment to scaling so i don't think so

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

fine by me

Agree.