The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

[ShockingPsychic]

Howdy! I've never really touched Marvel comics on the wiki, but has there ever been talk of a profile for Luna Snow? From what I can tell, she has plenty of appearances in main 616 canon. I haven't read them all yet, but I'm getting there. I might take it on as a sideproject, assuming nobody else is interested.

 

[Sparkive]

Howdy! I've never really touched Marvel comics on the wiki, but has there ever been talk of a profile for Luna Snow? From what I can tell, she has plenty of appearances in main 616 canon. I haven't read them all yet, but I'm getting there. I might take it on as a sideproject, assuming nobody else is interested.

If there's a very recent one, it might not be on this page, but other than that, all of Luna Snow's appearances should be here.
30 appearances, so you can create a profile for her if you want (pages need at least 20).

 

[MichaelCalistro]

WOLVERINE NEEDS AN UPGRADE TO HIS STATS! HE WAS ALWAYS A SPIDER-MAN LEVEL FIGHTER AND THIS FIGHT PROVES IT! ESPECIALLY WHEN BOTH WOLVERINE AND SPIDER-MAN STOPPED PULLING BACK THEIR PUNCHES!

 

[Tomfer]

WOLVERINE NEEDS AN UPGRADE TO HIS STATS! HE WAS ALWAYS A SPIDER-MAN LEVEL FIGHTER AND THIS FIGHT PROVES IT! ESPECIALLY WHEN BOTH WOLVERINE AND SPIDER-MAN STOPPED PULLING BACK THEIR PUNCHES!

The full caps lock makes this even funnier.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Howdy! I've never really touched Marvel comics on the wiki, but has there ever been talk of a profile for Luna Snow? From what I can tell, she has plenty of appearances in main 616 canon. I haven't read them all yet, but I'm getting there. I might take it on as a sideproject, assuming nobody else is interested.

I already considered doing it, she does have enough appearances but she has no solo run and most of those appearances are just being in the background meaning we have almost nothing about her. Her powers have very little explanation obviously we know it's ice but only the games actually took time to tell what is the dark ice and those are different continuities that we can't actually use. That's why I made pages for Aero and White fox but not to Luna Snow.

 

[That_moron2]

What I'm referring to is that he can somehow sense Kraven's weakness.

Information Analysis

 

[That_moron2]

If a world tree appeared in a spin-off marvel comic, is that the same world tree as the one in 616 or at least equivalent scaling wise?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

If a world tree appeared in a spin-off marvel comic, is that the same world tree as the one in 616 or at least equivalent scaling wise?

Ultima answered something similar.

Basically, alternate earths that are treated as carbon-copies of Earth-616 with some different events are assumed to have the same cosmology, especially What If? universes and direct branches of 616. Non-comic spin-off realities like the MCU or video game/animated series universes are assumed not to have the same cosmology as 616. Same goes with timelines whose cosmologies are depicted differently like Earth-1610. Otherwise, you'd need statements for an alternate timeline being similar to 616 physically. Personally, I'd consider any alternate Universe similar to Earth-616 by default since that's how MWI works, as long as the spin-off takes place solely in comics.

 

[That_moron2]

Ultima answered something similar.

Basically, alternate earths that are treated as carbon-copies of Earth-616 with some different events are assumed to have the same cosmology, especially What If? universes and direct branches of 616. Non-comic spin-off realities like the MCU or video game/animated series universes are assumed not to have the same cosmology as 616. Same goes with timelines whose cosmologies are depicted differently like Earth-1610. Otherwise, you'd need statements for an alternate timeline being similar to 616 physically. Personally, I'd consider any alternate Universe similar to Earth-616 by default since that's how MWI works, as long as the spin-off takes place solely in comics.

Thanks

 

[Antvasima]

Only thing I'm potentially annoyed about is that Thor is probably going to be set back to his usual state without Kingship or the Odin/Thor-Force.

Factory reset is king.

Yes, and that would currently place him far below Storm and Hulk in terms of raw power, which I suppose would likely be the entire point.

 

[Adr10K]

Yes, and that would currently place him far below Storm and Hulk in terms of raw power, which I suppose would likely be the entire point.

rHats what happens when we scale base level characters to the same level as their in canon tremendous power Up.

 

[Sparkive]

Information Analysis

Make sense, Thanks

 

[Sparkive]

Quick question, do mutants have any universal ability (meaning all mutants have it)?

 

[Osemere]

Quick question, do mutants have any universal ability (meaning all mutants have it)?

Resistance to diseases. If I remember Mutants can’t get AIDS.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Quick question, do mutants have any universal ability (meaning all mutants have it)?

IIRC all Mutants have Resistance to Absorption according to the Phalanx Covenant arc

 

[MichaelCalistro]

The full caps lock makes this even funnier.

But I am being serious here! Lord, no one treats me seriously anymore, I have been forsaken!

 

[Sparkive]

Resistance to diseases. If I remember Mutants can’t get AIDS.

IIRC all Mutants have Resistance to Absorption according to the Phalanx Covenant arc

Thanks, does any profile already use them?

 

[Eseseso]

Just reread One World Under Doom #5 and thought of this:

Thor and Carol Danvers: What makes you so unwilling to believe Doom can change?

Tony Stark: I saw a universe annihilated by his hand, you can't change a man willing to do that.

After all, Tony did come across the universe that Doom destroyed.

 

[Rangoon04]

Just reread One World Under Doom #5 and thought of this:

Thor and Carol Danvers: What makes you so unwilling to believe Doom can change?

Tony Stark: I saw a universe annihilated by his hand, you can't change a man willing to do that.

After all, Tony did come across the universe that Doom destroyed.

was it the one he nullified?

 

[Eseseso]

was it the one he nullified?

Yup.

 

[Excellence616]

The little Superman knock-off that could (Hyperion revisions)

So begins the final step in my brilliant plan to improve the profile of a Marvel character I don't care about (and his clone). Phase 1: create blog | Phase 2: create sandbox | Phase 3: make CRT (that's this!) The main proposal of this CRT is to allow for Earth 712 Hyperion to have a variable...

vsbattles.com

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

The Unified Cosmology of DC Comics: Ratings, Scaling, Changes, etc…..

That was more of a suggestion, he agrees that SoG being Low 1-A would be the best middle ground if it (for some reason( does get downgraded still there are 2 responses that havent been addressed fully yet...

vsbattles.com

.....Well that just happened.

Anyways, the majority of staff members agreed to close this cosmology thread until Ultima returned to review the rest of it. Now that Goofy's banned, are we gonna quit the thread altogether?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes, especially as Elizio has posted a modified revision thread for that topic.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

The Unified Cosmology of DC Comics: Ratings, Scaling, Changes, etc…..

That was more of a suggestion, he agrees that SoG being Low 1-A would be the best middle ground if it (for some reason( does get downgraded still there are 2 responses that havent been addressed fully yet...

vsbattles.com

.....Well that just happened.

Anyways, the majority of staff members agreed to close this cosmology thread until Ultima returned to review the rest of it. Now that Goofy's banned, are we gonna quit the thread altogether?

What happened to Goof? Why was he banned?

 

[Rangoon04]

What happened to Goof? Why was he banned?

there were a lot of disagreements with his Unified DC Cosmology proposals which seem to have frustrated him. he wasn't interested in responding to so many counterclaims and requested Ant to ban him (self-ban)

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

there were a lot of disagreements with his Unified DC Cosmology proposals which seem to have frustrated him. he wasn't interested in responding to so many counterclaims and requested Ant to ban him (self-ban)

I saw his CRTs, I didn't liked them but he always seemed to get them approved.

 

[Rangoon04]

I saw his CRTs, I didn't liked them but he always seemed to get them approved.

yeah I'm not sure why this one in particular broke him. not to speculate but I can see why he got more frustrated after the Marvel one got put on hold for Ultima (a decision I understand)

 

[Eseseso]

The Unified Cosmology of DC Comics: Ratings, Scaling, Changes, etc…..

That was more of a suggestion, he agrees that SoG being Low 1-A would be the best middle ground if it (for some reason( does get downgraded still there are 2 responses that havent been addressed fully yet...

vsbattles.com

.....Well that just happened.

Anyways, the majority of staff members agreed to close this cosmology thread until Ultima returned to review the rest of it. Now that Goofy's banned, are we gonna quit the thread altogether?

I'd prefer to revive it once Ultima comes back, it was pretty close to done before it got filibustered in favor of waiting for Ultima

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Apparently Miles' first fight upon being moved to Earth-616 was a Spider-Man vs Firelord lvl inconsistency (beating Blackheart with no outside help or story contrivances who stomped the Avengers in the same story)

(He won by spamming electricity attacks so I'm not sure how the writer would justify Jane Foster/Thor losing here even ignoring the difference in scale)

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Apparently Miles' first fight upon being moved to Earth-616 was a Spider-Man vs Firelord lvl inconsistency (beating Blackheart with no outside help or story contrivances who stomped the Avengers in the same story)

(He won by spamming electricity attacks so I'm not sure how the writer would justify Jane Foster/Thor losing here even ignoring the difference in scale)

Did they ever explain how Blackheart came back for this? Because I'm pretty sure he was dead (or something similar, can't remember exactly) prior to this.

(Also, was the writer Bendis? I hear he had a rep for these types of inconsistancies...)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I can't recall if Blackheart ever died.

Also Bendis wrote this yeah.

 

[That_moron2]

Y'all think Doom vs Vecna would be a good match?

 

[Rangoon04]

Y'all think Doom vs Vecna would be a good match?

it's a popular request as of recent so a lot of people seem to think it would

 

[Eseseso]

Y'all think Doom vs Vecna would be a good match?

Character wise, absolutely.

Funny enough I did a vs thread two years ago when peak Doom was 2-A and Vecna stomped him via 20 weeks of precog and 1-A hax, this time it is a lot closer.

That said, Vecna can still do pre-cog plus 1-A BFR since his 1-A haxxes (such as BFR) scale to one layer into 1-A via the Far Realm.

 

[Antvasima]

What happened to Goof? Why was he banned?

He has long been frustrated about when his threads do not get accepted, and personally requested to be banned.

 

[That_moron2]

Dungeons and Doom: Vecna vs Victor Von Doom

Doom is in his first key and has all his equipment, but no prep time. Vecna is in his last key Doom: Vecna: Inconclusive:

vsbattles.com

 

[Da3ggman]

Quick question: I haven’t been keeping up with it as of late, but didn’t Doctor Doom become the Sorcerer Supreme? If so, wouldn’t that open up the possibility for him to have that level of magic prowess?

If there’s more context to it, then fairs fair, but I feel like if he was considered strong enough to have the title, he should at least be in the same realm as Strange, if not a fair weaker.

 

[Antvasima]

So did anybody notice "Astonishing Avengers" issues 17 to 20? It seems like Marvel Comics is likely being silly about us again, or maybe not. It is uncertain.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

So did anybody notice "Astonishing Avengers" issues 17 to 20? It seems like Marvel Comics is likely being silly about us again, or maybe not. It is uncertain.

How so? I know that series makes a ton of deep cuts as is (they brought back Cobweb from the old Sleepwalker comics as a villain for an arc).

 

[Eseseso]

Quick question: I haven’t been keeping up with it as of late, but didn’t Doctor Doom become the Sorcerer Supreme? If so, wouldn’t that open up the possibility for him to have that level of magic prowess?

If there’s more context to it, then fairs fair, but I feel like if he was considered strong enough to have the title, he should at least be in the same realm as Strange, if not a fair weaker.

Since Doom is somehow probably going to lose his Sorcerer Supreme power at the end of "One World Under Doom", I figured it'd probably be best to make a separate key for Sorcerer Supreme Doom once the event finishes.