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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Thor: Suffer from my mighty axe
*swings with full power, passes through
The Void: ...so something was supposed to happen?
*swings with full power, passes through
The Void: ...so something was supposed to happen?
Dinobot1996
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And now with the release of the final three episodes, the Ironheart series is over.
- The terms of realms and dimensions get used interchangeably
- Madeline Stanton, a former sorcerer of Kamar-Taj, is terrified of the magic in just a piece of the Hood's cloak, and Zelma Stanton is led to believe that the Hood could be empowered by Dormammu (who is described as being one of the most powerful beings in the universe), explicitly citing Hood's symptoms to those of Kaecilius
- Ezekiel Stane should definitely warrant a profile now
- The Ironheart Mark 4 easily flips a speeding truck with one punch, and the Mark 5 is empowered by magic
- The true power behind the Hood is revealed to actually be Mephisto, who implies that Dormammu is considerably beneath him
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Doubt this dormammu would punk him seems more like his ego talking then actual power
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Even in the comics, Mephisto is often stronger we'll have to see for more information
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The artbook for Captain America: Brave New World should be out next week, so we'll have to see if that features any interesting statements.
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Will a new thread be made for phase 6? since phase 6 starts in 3 weeks
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I think Fantastic Four will be having its world premiere in London on the 10th, so I guess in about a week would be fitting.
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The hood is also practically indestructible to a degree, like it can separated at a molecular level but small piece of fabric survived everything else the Riri threw at it
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"Red Hulks amazing strength tests Caps shield and vibranium wings to their limits"
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More artbook stuff:
Sam's costume from the beginning of the movie is specified to be vibranium-weave, and also pointed out as being basically the same as the suit from the end of the show, just with a couple alterations:
His suit from later in the movie is labeled as an upgrade, also made with vibranium:
Sam's costume from the beginning of the movie is specified to be vibranium-weave, and also pointed out as being basically the same as the suit from the end of the show, just with a couple alterations:
His suit from later in the movie is labeled as an upgrade, also made with vibranium:
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Speaking of Red Hulk, I watched Brave New World last night (kind of meh tbh, Sam carried the movie for me) and noticed something: shouldn’t Cap’s absorption thing scale to Red Hulk? Rn it’s just listed as “at least 8-C” like Cap’s other weapons, but his wings could not only contain the energy of Red Hulk’s punches but he also briefly knocked out Red Hulk with a shockwave. Granted it was more effective than otherwise since the wing was stabbed into Red Hulk when the shockwave was let out, but it’s still Red Hulk’s own strength and would have to scale to do any damage at all.
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That's a good point
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Crazy how Rulk profile doesn’t scale him to vibranium tier when he on screen tears it and dents it was stated to be physically testing vibranium to its limit from his strength and is said to go toe to toe with vibranium
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It's even crazier how your one CRT got Sentry a "possibly Solar System level" because of one statement about him having the power of 1000 suns, but of course, Planet Level Thor and Island Level Red Hulk.
According to the official VSBW ratings, MCU Thor is 9.6 trillion times weaker than MCU Sentry. Yeah, that's pretty funny for a dude who's carried by statements vs someone who's had a movie since 2011.
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There’s more statements supporting infinity gauntlet level Stormbreaker then there is for sentry being that tier but it still isn’t accepted either
Like how can you read this and say it doesn’t scale lol
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I finally got around to watching Loki S1 & 2.
Easily in the Top 5 of things the MCU has made. Insanely good!
Speaking of, my current Top 5 MCU things:
1. Avengers: Infinity War
2. Iron Man 1
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
4. Loki
5. Thor: Ragnarok
Easily in the Top 5 of things the MCU has made. Insanely good!
Speaking of, my current Top 5 MCU things:
1. Avengers: Infinity War
2. Iron Man 1
3. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
4. Loki
5. Thor: Ragnarok
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More like this site murdered him there’s plenty of evidence to show hulk scales to tier 5 with everyone else
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Short list of the powers shown by Mephisto:
- Reality Warping
- Telekinesis
- Telepathy (reading & sharing thoughts)
- Mind Manipulation (Morality via the hood))
- Immortality (Type 1)
- Shapeshifting & Cloth Manipulation
- Resurrection
- Invisibility
- Time Manipulation
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Armorless Riri Williams should probably be able to get higher than just 10-B, considering her showings against members of the Hood's gang who were able to stomp security guards and could launch her a few meters back with a kick, though she was clearly at a disadvantage without using the environment to her advantage. Not sure how impressive pulling out an elevator handrail is for LS.
Ironheart armors Mark 3-4 should be able to get an 'at least 9-B' rating, as they should at least be above the Ironheart Mark 1. It might be helpful to get a calculation for the truck flipping feat, though I'm pretty sure it'd still be in the 9-B range.
I guess the Mark 5 would just upscale from Marks 3-4. At best, I could see someone arguing for 8-C+ from the statements comparing the Hood's empowerment to that of Kaecilius, but I'm not sure if there's enough information to support that scaling.
Ironheart armors Mark 3-4 should be able to get an 'at least 9-B' rating, as they should at least be above the Ironheart Mark 1. It might be helpful to get a calculation for the truck flipping feat, though I'm pretty sure it'd still be in the 9-B range.
I guess the Mark 5 would just upscale from Marks 3-4. At best, I could see someone arguing for 8-C+ from the statements comparing the Hood's empowerment to that of Kaecilius, but I'm not sure if there's enough information to support that scaling.
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Was that explosion she created part of the illusion, because if not you might be able to use for the calc (Though it didn't destroy much)
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I mean, considering that the Hood had the armor pinned down, presumably something would've had to actually physically knock him back in order for the illusion to be able to work.
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just got done watching the last episode and I really hate how much bad faith criticism ironheart is getting online. that ending was pretty strong and as a whole it was a lot more consistent in quality than the past couple (if not most) MCU shows, born again included.
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Well, you know how the “M-SheU” and “Marvel died after Endgame” crowd is. They are annoying.
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Yet the franchise is still standing
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Ahh man crazy how sentry isn’t there
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Watched the show. Got to say it was better than I expected. Nothing groundbreaking and not on my favorite list of MCU stories but still pretty nice. Of course, HE was the highlight for me but that's just me being a fan of vile monsters who take pleasures at hurting others in fiction. Also, liked the ending where the hero proves weak and faillible enough to accept a deal with the literal Devil
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In-universe he’s just some random guy on the team. That’s probably why.
Anyways, I got a question for other knowledgeable MCU members. I’m almost finished making the page for He Who Remains, but what of the infinity stones not working in the TVA? Do we lock that behind the functions of the Void being outside space and time, or because of the power/magic dampeners?
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It’s literally just a nullification barrier lol the TvA has a barrier magic isn’t even useable there the observation realm is outside time and space and it works just fine heck the stones were useable by Wanda and she was in the void outside the tree
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OH THAT'S RIGHT! Wanda being able to use them in the Void confirms that the TVA nullification barrier works on the stones.
Thank you, you absolute lifesaver
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Doctor Strange also used the Time Stone in the Dark Dimension, which exists outside and beyond time, and Infinity Ultron in the Observational Plane, which exists outside the planes of space and time. So yeah, it's a TVA thing
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Class K lifting strength for Ezekiel Stane and later Riri for that insert Mortal Kombat reference feat
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Thunderbolts writer states sentry is the most poweful hero
Thunderbolts director this time also states sentry is the most powerful hero of all
Thunderbolts director this time also states sentry is the most powerful hero of all
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