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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi

Phsccarvalho said:
Even so, even though it is very disorganized and some things are very outdated.

There is still a lot of content to store in the sandbox, etc.

The calculations, profile information, tier 1 cosmological information, etc.

I don't think the other supporters and staff would support this.

Especially if they realize that the entire canon is being updated by basically one user. They would probably say that it would be possible to update Legends without having to be remade from scratch because there are many more supporters available.


I think you can use a counterargument about the supporters thing, that even if there are more supporters, there are decades of content.

But I think that's for you Legends supporters to decide whether to do it or not. I'm not going to get involved in tha
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Yeah, there is so many Eras to say the least.

Starting from a Dark Side empire that predates the Old Republic by thousands of years, Old Republic, and so on in chronological order, it gonna been quite a fine cluster f**k just to organize the available information regarding Legends.

Disney also have a lot of material.

Both good and bad stuff in there.
 
There are some interesting abilities in battlefront. (I bought the game recently because of the promotion)

Both personal and general for the characters.

I think I'm going to make a battlefront edition crt.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
There are some interesting abilities in battlefront. (I bought the game recently because of the promotion)

Both personal and general for the characters.

I think I'm going to make a battlefront edition crt.
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EA Battlefront or PS 2 Battlefront?

I have OG Battlefront 2 on my end.

Never done the battlefront collection as it was released in a poor state at launch.

I do heard the collection was fixed later on though.
 
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It's kind of unbelievable how a character like Vicrul, who I don't think anyone cares about, has some consistent statements about being able to take the souls of his enemies.
 
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Star Wars (Canon) - Some questions about feats

So, I'm in doubt about two feats. - - - The first feat comes from Thrawn: Alliances (novel) Apparently Darth Vader perceives and reacts to things during hyperspace travel through precognition? Like, would that make him have MTFL+ through precognition? It was done through precognition, but...
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Doggo said:
did not know the Knights of Ren were force users
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They are in quotation marks.

They are force-sensitive, very strong in the dark side. They are considered strong in this regard (in the Force), and in the time of the empire they would be material for inquisitors, but there is a very big "but".

They are like a hammer, they only use the brute of the Force, no technique.

They are completely sloppy and untrained in Force technique.

They can only use the basic things of the Force (enhanced senses, enhanced reflexes, fear induction), and even then it is described that they cannot control these powers, they are uncontrollable and are used even if they are not called upon.

They are so untrained that it took 7 of them to move a small waterfall on Mustafar, a place strong in the dark side that amplified them, and one of them even said that the dark side was so strong in the place that he felt like he could breathe fire or fly.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
They are in quotation marks.

They are force-sensitive, very strong in the dark side. They are considered strong in this regard (in the Force), and in the time of the empire they would be material for inquisitors, but there is a very big "but".

They are like a hammer, they only use the brute of the Force, no technique.

They are completely sloppy and untrained in Force technique.

They can only use the basic things of the Force (enhanced senses, enhanced reflexes, fear induction), and even then it is described that they cannot control these powers, they are uncontrollable and are used even if they are not called upon.

They are so untrained that it took 7 of them to move a small waterfall on Mustafar, a place strong in the dark side that amplified them, and one of them even said that the dark side was so strong in the place that he felt like he could breathe fire or fly.
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Yep, back to fodder town.
 
By the way Reaper, are you planning to include a key for Force Ghost Marr? He does cool shit too.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Good work. Also, isn't 4-B Star Wars gonna be axed? I suppose that's a placeholder
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5-B is also crappy.

Both tiers are basically placeholders, and for future reference if the Force page is made and Legends doesn't get updated before I get Marr's rework passed: At least 5-B=One-shots generically strong force users, likely 4-B=Not entirely incomparable to god-tiers like Vitiate and Revan.
 
When it's something legendary, everyone shows up, right?

I'll be on vacation the day after tomorrow, if I pass all the subjects this semester.

Is there anything else that is really outdated in Canon?

I passed the force, force powers, force-sensitives and cosmology.

Besides that we have a Low 7-C and Class T calculation (the first one already accepted)

Is there anything else that is relevant missing?
 
DaReaperMan said:
5-B is also crappy.

Both tiers are basically placeholders, and for future reference if the Force page is made and Legends doesn't get updated before I get Marr's rework passed: At least 5-B=One-shots generically strong force users, likely 4-B=Not entirely incomparable to god-tiers like Vitiate and Revan.
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I heard tier 4 legends is still gonna be a thing. Just not 4-B anymore
 
DaReaperMan said:
5-B is also crappy.

Both tiers are basically placeholders, and for future reference if the Force page is made and Legends doesn't get updated before I get Marr's rework passed: At least 5-B=One-shots generically strong force users, likely 4-B=Not entirely incomparable to god-tiers like Vitiate and Revan.
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Yeah, until we get more solid Tier 5 feats.

The best I seeing is them back at Tier 6.

Keep in mind, at best, as they probably can get lower than that in Legends
 
“A tremor took hold of the planet. Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.”
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Star Wars: The Comedy of Darth Sidious

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Huh, curious there.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Yeah, until we get more solid Tier 5 feats.

The best I seeing is them back at Tier 6.

Keep in mind, at best, as they probably can get lower than that in Legends
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Basically, Marr is top-tier, likely god-tier, short of Abeloth. That's all you need to know on Marr's scaling lol
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
I heard tier 4 legends is still gonna be a thing. Just not 4-B anymore
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Mortals can still reach 4-B with rituals and amps, just not in base. For example Naga Sadow with the Corsair.

No mortals should be beyond Tier 6 without rituals or amps.
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
“A tremor took hold of the planet. Sprung from death, it unleashed itself in a powerful wave, at once burrowing deep into the world’s core and radiating through its saccharine atmosphere to shake the stars themselves. At the quake’s epicenter stood Sidious, one elegant hand vised on the burnished sill of an expansive translucency, a vessel filled suddenly to bursting, the Force so strong within him that he feared he might disappear into it, never to return. But the moment didn’t constitute an ending so much as a true beginning, long overdue; it was less a transformation than an intensification—a gravitic shift.”
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Star Wars: The Comedy of Darth Sidious

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Huh, curious there.
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Whenever I get around to a general downgrade thread, that crap is the very first thing I’m going to axe.

This entire thing is an allegory. The same novel repeats the same scene at the end of the book and not even the servant droid in the room is even ruffled. No earthquake ever strikes Corscuant in the lore. No stars get re-arranged. It is entirely Sidious reflecting on the momentous change in fate for him and the galaxy.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
When it's something legendary, everyone shows up, right?

I'll be on vacation the day after tomorrow, if I pass all the subjects this semester.

Is there anything else that is really outdated in Canon?

I passed the force, force powers, force-sensitives and cosmology.

Besides that we have a Low 7-C and Class T calculation (the first one already accepted)

Is there anything else that is relevant missing?
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am I using a type of Force invisibility? 😭
 
Epyriel said:
Mortals can still reach 4-B with rituals and amps, just not in base. For example Naga Sadow with the Corsair.

No mortals should be beyond Tier 6 without rituals or amps.
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BTW, any problems with me using a casual Yoda feat to scale LS here?
 
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Star Wars Legends Top Tiers Cleanup

This is a followup to this thread to finalize characters scaling to Beyond Shadows through Mind Walking, slightly revise The Ones to distinguish their Environmental Destruction from their telekinesis, and cleanup scaling off of Abeloth and the Mortis Gods. Scaling Explanations: Beyond Shadows...
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Epyriel said:
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Star Wars Legends Top Tiers Cleanup

This is a followup to this thread to finalize characters scaling to Beyond Shadows through Mind Walking, slightly revise The Ones to distinguish their Environmental Destruction from their telekinesis, and cleanup scaling off of Abeloth and the Mortis Gods. Scaling Explanations: Beyond Shadows...
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I disagree because it's Legends.

I'm going to create the persona of a Legends hater for no apparent reason and put myself on the back page as a Legends opponent.
 
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