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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

You are disregarding consistency. It's not a jump of building level mostly to planet level due to the author statement. It's the other way around. A character who consistently displays power in the planetary range being downgraded to building level because of one author statement.

Same goes for Flash. He has multiple of massively hypersonic to massively ftl speeds. Thus you can't disreagrd dozens of those for just one statement.

"It's fiction so it makes sense" **** no it doesn't. You just replaced Lore with fiction but are spouting the same BS. Again Explain HOW. We aren't talking about some 2 bit ability that showed up due to action sequence. We are talking about the main power of the protagonist that is consistently on said level through multiple feats be it the train feat, dodging lightning or intercepting bullets.

"By the wiki's rule" my ass. By Wiki's rule flash is rated at High Hypersonic with said feat. And Goku is rated Class K with his feat. By the wiki's rule consistent Feats precede author statement. If you are completely going to throw out all fun elements of battle boarding and rely on author statements then sure, live with the delusion of Invincible beating superman because Author said so.

Funny you put author statements on such a pedestal but hate videogame scaling specially because it is bloated and highballed by said author statements. Hypocrite,

You're missing the point with the Flash example.

It's fiction; not everything necessarily has to fit the logic of what's really necessary. How did Flash achieve this without being supersonic? Well, in the same way that Flash achieved this without incinerating people by moving them or breaking them into pieces with the kinetic energy that something like that, if it really happened, would have had. Or is it that you can only complain about something not fitting with reality when it comes to justifying why something should fulfill your vision?

And i'm not discrediting consistency.

But "consistency" should be about what is truly consistent, not cherry-picking just some feats, those that can be outliers or can be interpreted in more than one way, and interpreting them in the way that best meets your vision.

This happens a lot in Powerscaling: people who aren't looking for true consistency, but rather just justifying why their vision is consistent.

If a character throughout his story 95% of his feats are being hurt with wall-building attacks, not because there are more than 4 feats that could be interpreted as planet level durability means that he is actually at this level consistently

I wasn't even talking about bnha at the beginning of this discussion, I only remarked the importance of statements for a story, if you think that bnha has another type of consistency, it would be more similar to the example of duncan roleau.

But in hindsight, it serves as an example

I mean, what are all those "feats that are much more consistent than the author's word"?

Stain's feat where we assume Iida kicks as fast as his running speed, ignoring elements like acceleration ?

Nagant's feat that assumes times in the manga between when she fired her gun and the movements of a weakened Shigaraki that might not even be subsonic?

Deku's feat being faster than those bullets that requires a lot of ang size, which is a technique that assumes degrees in reference to a screen, when the panels have much more irregular shapes than a screen? And the wiki's own guide mentions "When evaluating the size of objects depicted by an author, it's important to consider that the author may have depicted them inconsistently for artistic reasons"?

All Might's feat traveling to the tower that assumes one second instead of the time it would take to say "I am here"?

The movie feats that calculate the speed of the shock waves they can produce instead of their physical movements?

The Six's feat? where people are arbitrarily assigned snail's speed (relative to Six), even though the original O'clock was on par with someone who hit as fast as bullets, Six sees normal bullets relative to him when they try to attack him, and then later says that a sniper bullet would travel faster than Koichi?

Do half of the feats that require the anime? Which should be analyzed as its own version, distinct from Horikoshi's manga, just an adaptation of it.

You're getting very aggressive when I haven't even attacked you, calling me a hypocrite when I can easily believe that Kratos and doomslayer are highballed without even attacking the author's statements.

Kratos's case is different in itself, because some of those mentions only exist because people are harassing one of the guys' social media accounts and asking "yes or no" questions about things he doesn't understand, rather than because of the author's genuine desire to add that extra information to his character's lore.

The example of invincible is another case that is tremendously fallacious, the statement that an author says only have weight on his own storys, That just means that Robert Kirkman thinks that Superman is weaker than what Mark has achieved or said he can achieve, not that Mark scale over his creator's misinformation on superman lore

But it seems that understanding that things can be analyzed depending on the context in which they exist is something you would also assume is wrong, i guess.

I don't even believe that absolutely all the parameters that the wiki follows are the best, I simply used the wiki as an example because I thought it would be more understandable the point of how not all fiction fits with what the laws of physics would actually require.

If your point is that the wiki isn't necessarily going to follow the logic I'm implying, that's pretty obvious.

But that doesn't make it objectively the only way to view existing fiction, nor necessarily the most correct way. That's why this discussion started with "it should be the other way around btw" not "it IS the other way around"
 
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Not really. Somethings Authors say can completely retcon the story so dramatically that the entire plot would change. For example CW Flash has canonically never ran faster than sound until fighting Girder in ep 6. This statement means everyone in the train derailing scene in ep 4 is dead AF.

Or Goku only being able to lift 8 tons in Base (as a adult with power level in billions no less) means that he would never be able to move the rock Roshi told him to move and thus never complete his training.

There are also Opposite effect of this. Like video game scaling which borders on delusions.

Like Kratos being rated Class Z and Immeasurable despite having multiple and by that I mean in the 10's of dozens instances (scripted for story progression with dedicated dialogues and cutscenes no less) where he has to go on detours and roundabouts because of stuff like boulders in his way.

Or Doom Slayer being rated G class despite requiring key cards for doors and again needing detours due to obstacles. "For killing a titan with bare hands" Where *****, wasn't Dark ages "LORE EXPLORED CINEMATICALLY" I don't see anything past building level without the mech.
Another example is AvX Quicksilver being stated, in the series, to have moved a distance in a period of time that would mean he'd be moving at Mach 500, then being stated to be Mach 5 literally a sentence later. Sometimes authors are wrong.
 
Another example is AvX Quicksilver being stated, in the series, to have moved a distance in a period of time that would mean he'd be moving at Mach 500, then being stated to be Mach 5 literally a sentence later. Sometimes authors are wrong.


you mean this ? Well, it's not inexplicable. One can argue that Quicksilver crossed that distance at Mach 440 but decided to hit his father at a slower speed.

And even so, "Sometimes" is the important word here. Authors aren't always like that with their storys. And honestly I'm almost certain that if Horikoshi had said something like, "All might, with his best efforts, would have been able to cross a light-year in an hour if he could breathe in space," you'd already be celebrating the increase in statistics instead of thinking about how sometimes authors are goofballs
 
And even so, "Sometimes" is the important word here. Authors aren't always like that with their storys. And honestly I'm almost certain that if Horikoshi had said something like, "All might, with his best efforts, would have been able to cross a light-year in an hour if he could breathe in space," you'd already be celebrating the increase in statistics instead of thinking about how sometimes authors are goofballs
Nope. Feats would still precede it. Because that's the whole point of battle boarding. Now stop wasting everyone time and data.
 
Live action AFO

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you mean this ? Well, it's not inexplicable. One can argue that Quicksilver crossed that distance at Mach 440 but decided to hit his father at a slower speed.

Nah, the implication was clear.
And even so, "Sometimes" is the important word here. Authors aren't always like that with their storys. And honestly I'm almost certain that if Horikoshi had said something like, "All might, with his best efforts, would have been able to cross a light-year in an hour if he could breathe in space," you'd already be celebrating the increase in statistics instead of thinking about how sometimes authors are goofballs
I would say that All Might can't fly.
 
Nah, the implication was clear.

Relying on implication alone isn't always enough, and it's not like the wiki does it all the time. The manga for example implied that Stain was swinging his sword, but when the anime came out we discovered that for some reason in the anime he just had it extended and was just running towards Todoroki like that.

AFO Prime was implied to be at least close in power to All Might Prime, but here they assume AFO has some durability-negating quirk that he's never used in a fight (since what he did to a fake Hawk made of practically smoke was just telekinesis; nothing about spatial manipulation is ever mentioned).

I would say that All Might can't fly.

That would only make the feat even better; All Might moves by jumping and occasionally with pseudo-flight using shock waves, which would imply that All Might had to reach that speed before leaving Earth's atmosphere.
 
AFO Prime was implied to be at least close in power to All Might Prime, but here they assume AFO has some durability-negating quirk that he's never used in a fight (since what he did to a fake Hawk made of practically smoke was just telekinesis; nothing about spatial manipulation is ever mentioned).
There's a very specific reason we assume this. All For One himself states that All Might no-sold all of his attacks while charging him like a bloodlusted bull so whatever he did to cause that damage either doesn't scale to his normal stuff or straight negates durability, there is no in-between, especially when we saw Prime All For One get physically slammed by Gigantomachia and Tokoyami who definitely aren't anywhere near as strong as Prime All Might.
 
There's a very specific reason we assume this. All For One himself states that All Might no-sold all of his attacks while charging him like a bloodlusted bull so whatever he did to cause that damage either doesn't scale to his normal stuff or straight negates durability, there is no in-between, especially when we saw Prime All For One get physically slammed by Gigantomachia and Tokoyami who definitely aren't anywhere near as strong as Prime All Might.
But isn't spatial manipulation a big leap in logic?

Also, although I appreciate you explaining to me where the reasoning comes from, I don't think it's certain.
If I remember correctly, All for One mentions something about feeling a similar danger to the one he felt with All Might Prime when he was attacked by Tokoyami.

(And why would it be weird if Tokoyami was as strong as All Might Prime? He can only be that strong in darkness like night. Bakugo is a random and is faster than All Might Prime. Star is a random and is almost as fast/strong as All Might but with reality warping. All Might is at this point just the highest point of balance between all the stats in an individual rather than something unattainable. Normal Quirks get better with each generation and All Might's OFA would have improved even more the longer he had accumulated power if he hadn't been injured. Deku's OFA, for example, is better in stats than anything the others can do.)


Furthermore, Armoderd Might then mentions something like, "AFo always starts attacking with weak ranged attacks to weaken and take away people's Quirks, but that strategy won't work because I don't have a Quirk."

So it's likely that AFO, already cornered into a fight with All Might, will start attacking All Might in the hopes of weakening him—trying to take OFA. As we saw in Afo's memories, up to that point he was used to being able to hurt previous OFA wielders with uncombined attacks (or at least not visibly very complex ones, even with Nana he just let out a big blast and that's it)

But when he realized that it didn't work he made a better and bigger combination of quirks.

That All Might managed to blow his head off with one blow isn't so strange when we consider that characters go through a "plus ultra" in moments like that, and all of AFO's memories, when it comes to remembering All Might with fear, the story seem to imply that he remembers him as an unstoppable force after wounding him, not since the fight started.

"Wounded heroes are much more terrifying."
 
AFO Prime was implied to be at least close in power to All Might Prime, but here they assume AFO has some durability-negating quirk that he's never used in a fight
Honestly I think this excuse that was used to claim Prime AFO isn't relative to Prime All Might is incredibly lame, like awesome, nothing like claims without any evidence just because we're scared of higher scaling
 
Honestly I think this excuse that was used to claim Prime AFO isn't relative to Prime All Might is incredibly lame, like awesome, nothing like claims without any evidence just because we're scared of higher scaling
Doesn't AM actually say too when they fought (Armored AM) that AFO would always open with powerful large scale attacks anyways, he definitely has never shied away from regular physical attacks from every fight we ever saw from him (honestly fought like that more than he ever has with dura neg)
 
Doesn't AM actually say too when they fought (Armored AM) that AFO would always open with powerful large scale attacks anyways, he definitely has never shied away from regular physical attacks from every fight we ever saw from him (honestly fought like that more than he ever has with dura neg)
Yeah so like no disrespect to anyone involved with that thread but wtf were they cooking 😭
 
Honestly I think this excuse that was used to claim Prime AFO isn't relative to Prime All Might is incredibly lame, like awesome, nothing like claims without any evidence just because we're scared of higher scaling
We can't scale someone to another without evidence. AFO's Quirk lets him have whatever powers he wants, so we can't say how their fight went.

Doesn't AM actually say too when they fought (Armored AM) that AFO would always open with powerful large scale attacks anyways, he definitely has never shied away from regular physical attacks from every fight we ever saw from him (honestly fought like that more than he ever has with dura neg)
This literally means nothing. He just uses a long/wide range attacks to start with, and we have no idea what kind of attack he'd use and what their effects are. It was stated by Gran Torino, who witness Prime All Might vs AFO, that AFO was fighting completely different from their previous encounter.

We also know that All Might just powers through it without dodging.
 
It was stated by Gran Torino, who witness Prime All Might vs AFO, that AFO was fighting completely different from their previous encounter.
That's true as well, frugot about that
This literally means nothing. He just uses a long/wide range attacks to start with, and we have no idea what kind of attack he'd use and what their effects are.
AM does specifcally mention since Nana onwards he did that and we see there and here he just kinda big booms the area, he does the same against Jeanist too but all that aside it ain't like I'm making a crt on this so chill out, literally just checked the thread and saw clovers post and responded
 
We can't scale someone to another without evidence. AFO's Quirk lets him have whatever powers he wants, so we can't say how their fight went.


This literally means nothing. He just uses a long/wide range attacks to start with, and we have no idea what kind of attack he'd use and what their effects are. It was stated by Gran Torino, who witness Prime All Might vs AFO, that AFO was fighting completely different from their previous encounter.

We also know that All Might just powers through it without dodging.
I presented a counterargument above as to why it might be irrelevant that All Might withstood several of AFO's attacks.

And honestly, none of that is good evidence to claim that AFO Prime had hard neg, much less spatial manipulation.
 
To make this clear.

We don't have Prime AFO because his powers are unknown. 99% of his kit would be Unknown and he'd at best have a single Prime All Might level attack we don't know anything about. We also have zero reasoning to believe Prime AFO could physically wrestle with Prime All Might, or even take hits from him directly.

He could've spent most of their fight on the back foot. AFO feared Prime All Might enough that he made sure to do what he can without drawing any attention to himself. Maybe he dodged, play keep away, or maybe he blocked with Quirks that... can do whatever. We just don't know. Okay, he'd have to scale in speed, but that's everything.

No one is saying AFO used dura negation against All Might, that's baseless. We don't know what he does, that's why he has no key or rating.

Rewind AFO has no reason to scale to Prime AFO because once again, his Quirks and powers are completely different.

The only similarity is that he likes attacks with long/wide range.
 
But isn't spatial manipulation a big leap in logic?

Also, although I appreciate you explaining to me where the reasoning comes from, I don't think it's certain.
If I remember correctly, All for One mentions something about feeling a similar danger to the one he felt with All Might Prime when he was attacked by Tokoyami.

(And why would it be weird if Tokoyami was as strong as All Might Prime? He can only be that strong in darkness like night. Bakugo is a random and is faster than All Might Prime. Star is a random and is almost as fast/strong as All Might but with reality warping. All Might is at this point just the highest point of balance between all the stats in an individual rather than something unattainable. Normal Quirks get better with each generation and All Might's OFA would have improved even more the longer he had accumulated power if he hadn't been injured. Deku's OFA, for example, is better in stats than anything the others can do.)


Furthermore, Armoderd Might then mentions something like, "AFo always starts attacking with weak ranged attacks to weaken and take away people's Quirks, but that strategy won't work because I don't have a Quirk."

So it's likely that AFO, already cornered into a fight with All Might, will start attacking All Might in the hopes of weakening him—trying to take OFA. As we saw in Afo's memories, up to that point he was used to being able to hurt previous OFA wielders with uncombined attacks (or at least not visibly very complex ones, even with Nana he just let out a big blast and that's it)

But when he realized that it didn't work he made a better and bigger combination of quirks.

That All Might managed to blow his head off with one blow isn't so strange when we consider that characters go through a "plus ultra" in moments like that, and all of AFO's memories, when it comes to remembering All Might with fear, the story seem to imply that he remembers him as an unstoppable force after wounding him, not since the fight started.

"Wounded heroes are much more terrifying."
Contributing my own argument, this is what all might says

1

"EVER SINCE YOUR FINAL BATTLE AGAINST MY MASTER YOU'VE MADE A HABIT OF KICKING FIGHTS OFF WITH HAPHAZARD RANGED ATTACKS!! ...YOU LOVE WEARING FOLKS DOWN BEFORE STEALING THEIR QUIRKS!"

Afo didn't want to atomize either Nana or All Might by sheer power, he wanted to weaken them to try to take their quirk, with attacks that are described as "haphazard" meaning poorly organized and literally random.

2

This is the type of attack that Afo used on Nana, a random blast without apparently combining quirks

3

These are the types of attacks that Afo unleashes when he locks in and combines his powers.
 
Contributing my own argument, this is what all might says

1

"EVER SINCE YOUR FINAL BATTLE AGAINST MY MASTER YOU'VE MADE A HABIT OF KICKING FIGHTS OFF WITH HAPHAZARD RANGED ATTACKS!! ...YOU LOVE WEARING FOLKS DOWN BEFORE STEALING THEIR QUIRKS!"

Afo didn't want to atomize either Nana or All Might by sheer power, he wanted to weaken them to try to take their quirk, with attacks that are described as "haphazard" meaning poorly organized and literally random.

2

This is the type of attack that Afo used on Nana, a random blast without apparently combining quirks

3

These are the types of attacks that Afo unleashes when he locks in and combines his powers.

Didn't you literally just post this a few messages ago?
 
To make this clear.

We don't have Prime AFO because his powers are unknown. 99% of his kit would be Unknown and he'd at best have a single Prime All Might level attack we don't know anything about. We also have zero reasoning to believe Prime AFO could physically wrestle with Prime All Might, or even take hits from him directly.

He could've spent most of their fight on the back foot. AFO feared Prime All Might enough that he made sure to do what he can without drawing any attention to himself. Maybe he dodged, play keep away, or maybe he blocked with Quirks that... can do whatever. We just don't know. Okay, he'd have to scale in speed, but that's everything.

No one is saying AFO used dura negation against All Might, that's baseless. We don't know what he does, that's why he has no key or rating.

Rewind AFO has no reason to scale to Prime AFO because once again, his Quirks and powers are completely different.

The only similarity is that he likes attacks with long/wide range.
We're just assuming AFO's powers are different in his prime compared to his rewound form because Torino said his "style" was different in Kamino, but that doesn't mean he literally lost all the powers he had.

Shigaraki has the original power that once belonged to AFO, and AFO is working with the copy of that power, and both (once AFO rejuvenates) have similar powers outside of decay and regeneration.

Even the little fight we see of AFO prime vs Nana fits perfectly with the style of Rewind AFo
 
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I never said it was evidence he has... whatever you said. What are you talking about?
I mean, AFO is currently on the Wiki with spatial manipulation due to something that is just telekinesis, and I remember this power was used as an example in the thread where the idea was proposed that AFO could have defeated All Might through other means.
 
Gran Torino specifically says this. "His tactics and the Quirks he's using are nothing like before."

What AFO showed off at that point in the fight was new. He never used any of that during his fight with Prime All Might.

He doesn't just say his fighting style. Even his Quirks are nothing like before.

The official viz translation, AFO says "Ever since I was reduced to this... I haven't been able to stock up as many as before..."

The official anime subs, AFO says. "After my body turned into this, I also depleted a lot of what I'd stocked up..."

Checking the raw Japanese. AFO says his stock dwindled considerably after being weakened. Machine translation is pretty much trash, so I can see why you'd ignore this.
But it lining up with other translations is seriously suspect to me.

Even the official translation could support this. Being unable to stock up as many as before could mean he can't hold the same amount of Quirks. This would imply the same thing. That AFO got rid of Quirks after being reduced to this weakened state. His body could no longer handle the powerful Quirks he used to fight Prime All Might.

This also fits with Garaki's research. How a body needs to be strong to withstand multiple Quirks. That's what the surgery was for. AFO had to get rid of some Quirks due to how much damage he sustained, especially to his brain. This once again fits to the idea that AFO's current Quirks are not the same as Prime AFO.

What Shigaraki shows off is irrelevant. What matters is what AFO shows, and nothing suggest he scales to Prime All Might.

He very likely wasn't blitzed by All Might, and has an attack that can blow a hole through him. That's all we got for Prime AFO. We have no reason to assume the Quirks he used on Nana could be Prime All Might level. AFO's power comes from his Quirks. As his body is just a normal human... normal for MHA standards. For all we know Quirkless AFO is as durable as Endeavor, who doesn't have durability enhancing yet is still stupid tough.

Without information, we cannot label anything. Prime AFO's rating is just way too unknown to give anything about.

I'm personally 100% positive Prime AFO does indeed scale to Prime All Might. But personal belief is kind of irrelevant. Horikoshi made the mistake of not showing anything about Prime AFO vs Prime All Might beyond the head punch. Unless we see a Quirk hurt Prime All Might, we have no reason to scale any Quirk to Prime All Might.

In order to have any scaling. We need to see a Quirk hurt Prime All Might, and see AFO take a hit from him as well. We never see anything like that.

I'm done with this conversation as talking to you has given me a headache already. Best to not brew any bad blood here. You're free to disagree and respond, obviously. But I will not be responding back to you for the sake of my mental health. Physical health too, this stress has not been good for me.
 
Gran Torino specifically says this. "His tactics and the Quirks he's using are nothing like before."

What AFO showed off at that point in the fight was new. He never used any of that during his fight with Prime All Might.

He doesn't just say his fighting style. Even his Quirks are nothing like before.

The official viz translation, AFO says "Ever since I was reduced to this... I haven't been able to stock up as many as before..."

The official anime subs, AFO says. "After my body turned into this, I also depleted a lot of what I'd stocked up..."

Checking the raw Japanese. AFO says his stock dwindled considerably after being weakened. Machine translation is pretty much trash, so I can see why you'd ignore this.
But it lining up with other translations is seriously suspect to me.

Even the official translation could support this. Being unable to stock up as many as before could mean he can't hold the same amount of Quirks. This would imply the same thing. That AFO got rid of Quirks after being reduced to this weakened state. His body could no longer handle the powerful Quirks he used to fight Prime All Might.

This also fits with Garaki's research. How a body needs to be strong to withstand multiple Quirks. That's what the surgery was for. AFO had to get rid of some Quirks due to how much damage he sustained, especially to his brain. This once again fits to the idea that AFO's current Quirks are not the same as Prime AFO.

What Shigaraki shows off is irrelevant. What matters is what AFO shows, and nothing suggest he scales to Prime All Might.

He very likely wasn't blitzed by All Might, and has an attack that can blow a hole through him. That's all we got for Prime AFO. We have no reason to assume the Quirks he used on Nana could be Prime All Might level. AFO's power comes from his Quirks. As his body is just a normal human... normal for MHA standards. For all we know Quirkless AFO is as durable as Endeavor, who doesn't have durability enhancing yet is still stupid tough.

Without information, we cannot label anything. Prime AFO's rating is just way too unknown to give anything about.

I'm personally 100% positive Prime AFO does indeed scale to Prime All Might. But personal belief is kind of irrelevant. Horikoshi made the mistake of not showing anything about Prime AFO vs Prime All Might beyond the head punch. Unless we see a Quirk hurt Prime All Might, we have no reason to scale any Quirk to Prime All Might.

In order to have any scaling. We need to see a Quirk hurt Prime All Might, and see AFO take a hit from him as well. We never see anything like that.

I'm done with this conversation as talking to you has given me a headache already. Best to not brew any bad blood here. You're free to disagree and respond, obviously. But I will not be responding back to you for the sake of my mental health. Physical health too, this stress has not been good for me.


Rewind Afo could also combine more powers than his injured form, so it's likely that he's referring to his body not being able to combine as many powers as before at once as you mention, But that also has the implication that the weakened AFO style also had this notable change when it went into rewind where it no longer used powers like aircannon, impact return, etc., like in Kamino which was specifically prepared to counter All Might.

Shigaraki can't be irrelevant to the matter, since he has exactly the original quirk of afo, it would be strange if AFO ever had a power that specifically could hurt All Might and was never given the kind of narrative importance that Decay has, Decay is mentioned many times for the ability to hurt Deku regardless of his durability, if that was the idea with an external power of Afo it is likely that this would have been said in some way "it's good that Afo doesn't have quirk X anymore..." "be careful with Decay and quirk X"



The Hero Public Safety Commission even mentions how All For One is on All Might's level in strength, and the last reference they have of All For One level is the fight where both he and All Might end up injured, as this is the point where they believed he had died.

All Might specifically mentions how he asked for this to be hidden (something only they have the authority to do, and then their later dialogue makes it clear that they were the ones who covered up the event so as not to reveal that All Might had been weakened and injured by someone).
 
That seems kind of pedantic.
Reversing the situation, if Kamui Woods canonically had Class 5 LS, then it wouldn't mean the League will get a downgrade just because they were restrained to the point of immobility.
Although I'm just restating the arguments from years ago. It can be revisited (if anyone cares enough about Kamui Frauds).
I've been wondering about that. Dragon ball has separate scaling for the anime, manga, and even promotional material like heroes. Is dragon ball just an exception because it's dragon ball or are you guys just trying to keep it manga only?
As Castorice said, there are lots of differences between the mainline Dragon Ball continuity and DBZ. DBZ includes all the long form fillers, the Z movies, and continues on to Dragon Ball GT whereas the other "main" continuity doesn't include the fillers and movies except those canon to Super. Then the games themselves are their own different continuity.

MHA is nowhere near the same situation.
 
Well folks, I have good news and bad news. The good news is Deku is coming back to Death Battle for a chance to redeem himself! The bad news is... it's against Miles Morales of all characters, so now it's a stomp in the opposite direction.
Deku gonna use that one specific quirk really well here.
 
As Castorice said, there are lots of differences between the mainline Dragon Ball continuity and DBZ. DBZ includes all the long form fillers, the Z movies, and continues on to Dragon Ball GT whereas the other "main" continuity doesn't include the fillers and movies except those canon to Super. Then the games themselves are their own different continuity.

MHA is nowhere near the same situation.
Dragon Ball Toei -> DBZ Toei -> DBGT
DB Manga -> DBZ Manga -> DBS Manga
??? -> DBZ Kai -> DBS Anime
Whatever the hell Daima’s continuity line is

SDBH and the video games being canon to all of those
 
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