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I remember a blog listing the skill feats of Star Wars characters. There was one feat where Vader casually defeats a droid programmed with the knowledge of a hundred swordsmen and fighting styles. It's only for legends tho
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Star Wars Discussion Thread Canon/Legends- Episode VI Return of the Threadi
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They had to nerf the bro
I wanted some more canon scans of combat skills/techniques. I could only find two interesting ones to put on Vader's profile.
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To this day, I always come back to this. Crazy how powerful legends has been recently with the tier 1 crap.
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I didn't understand the first question. But using the Force depends on other factors.
The second one, like, we have the Stranger fighting several Jedi during the High Republic in the Acolyte series. He fought only with the helmet that blocked all his senses, he basically only fought guided by the Force.
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I meant the force is skill-based. If we associate force sense with skill, then Jedi will be on par with Re: Zero mid tiers in swordsmanship. Figthing with your senses blocked is mad crazy, it will make the average Jedi Knight a skill monster, just imagine the scaling chain....
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Because it has literal decades of content.Why always legends?
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Guys, it's over, I checked and mind probe can gain mind hax by causing mental damage with continuous use.
And in Rebels the Grand Inquisitor says that the Jedi are trained to resist the mind probe (which is confirmed with Kana, Erza (padawan) and Rey resisting it.
Mind, Telepathy, Memory, Pain hax resistance. gg
I'll just wait for a response from a staff member about the lightsabers.
And in Rebels the Grand Inquisitor says that the Jedi are trained to resist the mind probe (which is confirmed with Kana, Erza (padawan) and Rey resisting it.
Mind, Telepathy, Memory, Pain hax resistance. gg
I'll just wait for a response from a staff member about the lightsabers.
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Wow there is so much wrong in thereShivaShakti/VaderTime
To this day, I always come back to this. Crazy how powerful legends has been recently with the tier 1 crap.
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Legends also have a lot more haxes in comparison to Canon as well
They had to nerf the bro
I wanted some more canon scans of combat skills/techniques. I could only find two interesting ones to put on Vader's profile.
It gets pretty absurd especially if we looking into the Dark Empire arc and all with Force Ghosts and all.
Btw, Mace Windu literally punching droids to death with his Force Enhanced fist in the 2003 Clone War series that predates the later Clone War series.
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Not sure and still a guesstimate not exactly confirmed by official sources.
It is unofficial as well so I wouldn’t relied on that completely. Still might been useful for how lightsaber’s temperatures varied (not factoring in any Force amps as well)
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Oh, don’t forget, in the 2003 Clone War, Mace Windu literally force crushed General Grevious. He was such a menace to Mace Windu, he just opt to Force Crush the menace.
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In the only other version of them fighting this still happens but only after Grievous scares the shit out of him by copying bits and pieces of Vapaad despite it literally requiring the Force to even function whatsoever.
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This fight happened during the Battle of Coruscant. Do you remember when that novel take place? If before that scene, it would make sense Mace Windu just instantly force crushed General Grevious after Grevious “captured” Palpatine.
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RotS novelization.
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Actually the other fight also takes place during the Battle of Coruscant in the novel Labyrinth of Evil (which contradicts 2003 CW, unless you try and get creative with the timeline).
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Alright
Gonna love conflicting materials in Legend continuity. Joy
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How do you deal with this? I know there is the ABCD canon, I don't know what.
But with decades of stories, novels, and legendary series written by different people and writers, there will obviously be conflicts.
How do you decide what is most valid?
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Before the Legends and Disney Canon split, it used to been called Expanded Universe with rules of canonicity if memories serves me right.
In fact, the Star Wars wiki has a lot of sources to solve that issue.
Canon
The Star Wars canon is the continually evolving body of authoritative works comprising the official story of Star Wars, encompassing movies, television series, novels, comics, and video games. George Lucas set the original main six Star Wars films and the content he developed and produced in...
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Oh before I forget to list them completely, if we use EU’s old canonicity rules, here is the list:
- G Canon (George Lucas Canon)
- T Canon (Television Canon)
- C Canon (Continuity Canon)
- S Canon (Secondary Canon)
- D Canon (Detour Canon)
- N (Non Canon)
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Should we even count TCW as part of Legends? It's considered a higher canon compared to Legends, and it's filled with hundreds upon hundreds of contradictions that creates timeline problems all over the place, and even has shit like Grievous losing to a bunch of Gungans
Filoni even said Legends and TCW are two separated universes
Filoni even said Legends and TCW are two separated universes
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For reference:
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Yes, TCW has been repeatedly upheld as a stable of Legends, second only in priority of continuity to the movies themselves.
It creates a ton of contradictions because Filoni can’t control himself, but he was explicitly given a higher mandate.
Whether we like it or not, it is officially a part of Legends by Lucasfilm’s mandate, and takes priority over C-Canon material.
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As mentioned above, for Legends there is a hierarchy of canonical sources that are grouped into tiers, with higher tiers taking priority over lower tiers:
- G-Canon: The 6 original movies plus some unknown lore addendums Lucas submitted to the Holocron.
- T-Canon: The 2008 TCW show.
- C-Canon: Most common media, books, comics, video games, etc. Within this tier, it has been stated that the radio dramas and movie novelizations take priority.
- S-Canon: Sources stated to be of lower priority, as well as things like video game statistics. Also includes most of the Star Wars Tales comics.
- N-Canon: Sources contradicted entirely or in large part by higher sources, or sources explicitly stated to be non-canon. Includes the Infinities, What-Ifs stories, the Insider magazine, Lego Star Wars: The Yoda Chronicles, etc.
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A resistance to fear and paralysis and the Jedi would already have a good resistance to common things on the wiki.
There is the standard fear manipulation of force power, but it is said to magnify, we don't know how strong it is. I guess I can't give them resistance based on "They showed no fear when facing force-sensitives"
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STAR WARS Canon Edition: A few things²
Hello It will be a relatively short crt. Additions go to this page. P&A Perception Manipulation (Being guided by the Force allows the user to see everything in slow motion) This will be added to the Jedi's force powers and tabber. Since being guided by the force (instinctive reaction) is...
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Speaking of which, I think that after the CRT I made now, all Jedi will have P&A very similar to the most skilled ones in Rezero, at least in terms of number of skills.
Since it will be like this:
Some of them are even superior to Rezero, like Force Sense, which is simply a ridiculous level of Galactic/interdimensional.
And all of this for common Jedis, without any kind of scale chain.
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Force sense go brrrrrrr
Btw do Canon Jedi resist precog like their legends counterparts do?
I just realized the Ligthsaber's would be very op on vs threads once we have a calc fro their heat
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I don't know, and I don't know if I want that.
Analytical prediction is more common than pure Precognation, so them having resistance doesn't matter much.
It would actually make the skill level of Jedis defeating other Jedi/Sith a little worse, because it would be up to them to defeat someone with Precognation, to defeat someone without Precognation.
Although it wouldn't affect General Grievos' skill level, which is part of the scale for higher levels.
Resistance to analytical prediction on the other hand would be very good.
That's why I want to find a calculation for this or find someone to calculate it.
Because depending on the thing, it will basically make their tier 8-A not matter for some battles.
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What comic is the 3rd scan from?
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1st and 2nd have been calculated, but not yet reviewed.
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Thanks, I'll ask a friend if he can remake this to include LS.
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I've already done the CRT. The lightsaber is listed in standard Jedi equipment, etc.
Lightsaber
Designed as much for elegance in combat as for ceremony, Lightsabers are a distinctive weapon, the very image of which was inextricably bound with the mythos of the Jedi Order and their polar opposites, the Sith. The lightsaber also became synonymous with the Jedi Order's values to uphold peace...
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