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Invincible (TV Series) vs Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic Boom)

Sonic has the AP (5.01 Teratons compared to upscale of 1.034 teratons) and hax advantage (fire and ice mode), Invincidude has the LS advantage.
Now, I'm no expert, but the moment that Invincibro wants to get close, sonic is activating ice mode and from there, it's GGs. Invincibro has resistance to cold, not ice manipulation. Invincibro is getting frozen the moment he gets close and.. well..


Sonic, mid diff.
 
Now, I'm no expert, but the moment that Invincibro wants to get close, sonic is activating ice mode and from there, it's GGs. Invincibro has resistance to cold, not ice manipulation. Invincibro is getting frozen the moment he gets close and.. well..


Sonic, mid diff.



Arkan, what in the actual ****?!? How do you think ice work bro? Are you saying ice isn't cold?!?
 
It says that it freezes anything on touch. Sonics ice manip scales more than Invincibro's resistance.
Is it in character for him to use it, especially against a non-robotic human-looking opponent? Fire and Ice apparently takes place somewhere during Season 2 of the show but we don't see the characters using the abilities they gain.
 
Yes. It is. He can pop it at any time. He doesn't even care if they shatter.
We have only seen him use the ability against robots. Are you saying Sonic would have no problem murdering a living being in (literally) cold blood?
 
Because Sonic isn't a murderer.
So he can casually just shatter robots but he isn't a murderer? Interesting move, friend.

Even without said modes, Sonic is far more skilled than Invincibro and Invincibro's fighting style is just brawler style. He could barely weave hits from veteran viltrimutes and said viltrimutes were holding back.
 
So he can casually just shatter robots but he isn't a murderer? Interesting move, friend.
Yes, he destroys lifeless robots with no personality or sentience. That's vastly different from killing a person.
Even without said modes, Sonic is far more skilled than Invincibro and Invincibro's fighting style is just brawler style. He could barely weave hits from veteran viltrimutes and said viltrimutes were holding back.
I agree with this much, Sonic just isn't a cold-blooded killer.
 


Been busy the past few days. Just gonna post this to completely settle whether Mark can resist ice mode or not even though it's obviously out of character for Sonic to use in the first place. The clip speaks for itself (start at 1:50).

Back to topic, Sonic has a 5x advantage in AP but that's without considering how Invincible scales far higher from his AP and can increase it even further with rage amp (Omni-Man casually performed the feat just by flying around really fast and he wasn't even hurt in the slightest while doing it). I feel like Sonic's combat skill is being overestimated here. He relies a lot on his speed and without it, nothing really stops Mark from just grabbing and either tearing him apart or yeeting him into space with his ridiculously higher LS (in fact, didn't Arkan argue in a previous match between Conquest and Lyric that the former would just tear the latter apart?)
 
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In fairness, Sonic does tend to use his Enerbeam as a whip if he needs to, so that could give him a range advantage when in close quarters. However, due to Mark's superior martial arts feats, this might not be enough on it's own.

Sonic's wincon is to get close to Mark and outfight him with his 5x higher AP. Mark's wincon would be using his superior lifting strength to BFR Sonic either by throwing him into orbit or restraining him then flying into space himself. Mark's flight might also make it hard for Sonic to close the distance, but then again Mark would have to close the distance to actually win.

That's the question, could Mark's superior skills get around Sonic's Enerbeam and superior strength? I'm not sure. For now, I'm voting inconclusive.
 
Come to think of it, I'm now leaning more in favor of Sonic, his win-cons are more straight forward. Mark has to get close no matter what, and that's really not a good idea against Sonic.

I'm voting Sonic.
 
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