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The Watermans vs Ghostface (2023)

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Halloween Killers vs Ghostface (2023)

  • Battle takes place within The Waterman House
  • Both are 9-C
  • Speed is equalized
  • Neither have line of sight
  • Otherwise SBA
I'd write like a plot to why they started fighting but i never watched this Scream movie so i have no idea what these 3 are like so i'll pass on that one lol.

Mr. and Mrs. Waterman were VERY... VERY... Bad people: 1

Who gives a **** about movies?: 0
 
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bump. i'll probably start this off by saying that depending on how the three ghostfaces act, The Watermans either start with Social Influencing to gain their trust using their innocent halloween loving couple facade, or if the watermans deem the ghostfaces are caught somewhere they shouldn't be in the house, they'll go straight for separating them and picking them off one by one.

The Watermans will also at some point take a picture of the three so they can use the spirits of whichever ghostfaces they end up killing off to continue luring them apart and scaring the shit outta them for the fun of it.
 
assuming that its a head on fight the ghostface are stomping.
Why would the ghostfaces stomp in a head on fight? Very confident about that when they're fighting people who could literally tear them open vertically.
 
The Watermans win, they are stronger and have superhuman stamina.
Actually funnily enough technically the ghostfaces have a very slight AP advantage since the watermans just upscale from baseline massively.

just off feats they are probably stronger but number wise it's;

Massively stronger than 300 Joules vs 375 Joules. The watermans have better LS than them though. But yeah they do have better stamina than the ghostfaces but considering what they're up to that was never in doubt.
 
Actually funnily enough technically the ghostfaces have a very slight AP advantage since the watermans just upscale from baseline massively.

just off feats they are probably stronger but number wise it's;

Massively stronger than 300 Joules vs 375 Joules. The watermans have better LS than them though.
But their high lifting strength gives them a huge advantage.
 
But their high lifting strength gives them a huge advantage.
We've never seen Rachel actually kill anyone (her only kill was off screen in Return of the Pumpkin Rabbit) so we don't know how much she uses LS, but Lorenzo is a grabbing freak and his goto option is to grab and hold them down while he absolutely ***** their face up (or immediately snap the person's neck like he did with Tammy in Tales of the Pumpkin Rabbit)

I will note Ghostfaces do have a strange advantage. The watermans will hold off on killing any of them before they get a picture of the three so they can manipulat their souls later, so until one or the other snap a picture and throws it into the photobook, the watermans will keep their distance which will give the trio some time.
 
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How stupid are these 3? The Watermans will likely try to seperate the three using the souls of their previous murders.

How plausible is it they might agree to follow strange figures telling them to follow them for any variety of reasons.
 
How stupid are these 3? The Watermans will likely try to seperate the three using the souls of their previous murders.

How plausible is it they might agree to follow strange figures telling them to follow them for any variety of reasons.
It is possible the Ghostface killers would follow the ghosts just like how they followed their victims.
 
I doubt the Ghostfaces will fall for the harmless couple act due to SBA and the fact that they're creepy giant humanoid animals. Other than that, pretty sure the Watermans win this just due to much better physical capabilities. They have large size type 0 and can mutilate their victims with their bare hands while the Ghostfaces only scale to breaking bones (no scaling to the previous Ghostfaces). Wayne is the only one who can remotely pose a threat to them due to his skill and intelligence, but they can easily overpower him together after taking care of the other two who aren't as dangerous.
 
Thats 1 for the watermans, 0 (1 if Pluto explains himself) for Ghostfaces.
ghostface wouldnt be manipulated by a old couple, especially wayne who if you look at his iq feats are quantifable enough to say it wouldnt be a easy “outsmart” also if all 3 charge head on it would bad for the couple as their overwhelming brute force together will topple them. and all three are highly trained with their knives. the best, wayne is able to deliver short rapid stabbing which will incapacitate them both. also wayne has been shown to brutally dismember greg, and stab jason rapidly to the points his guts fell out.

even if the scenario is stealth thats a even bigger advantage for ghostface who will offgaurd stab them. (u can check their stealth feats via clips on their respective pages, i dont feel like presenting scans rn)

just my opinion.
 
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ghostface wouldnt be manipulated by a old couple, especially wayne who if you look at his iq feats are quantifable enough to say it wouldnt be a easy “outsmart” also if all 3 charge head on it would bad for the couple as their overwhelming brute force together will topple them.
The Watermans are the ones with the physical advantage here. Just compare their feats.
and all three are highly trained with their knives.
No, they're not. Wayne is the most skilled of them, Quinn is decent at best, and Ethan doesn't even have Weapon Mastery on his profile. Don't make it out like they're skill gods or something.
the best, wayne is able to deliver short rapid stabbing which will incapacitate them both. also wayne has been shown to brutally dismember greg, and stab jason rapidly to the points his guts fell out.
What stops the Watermans from just tanking it with their ridiculous stamina and grabbing him, restraining, then tearing him apart with their much higher LS?
even if the scenario is stealth thats a even bigger advantage for ghostface who will offgaurd stab them. (u can check their stealth feats via clips on their respective pages, i dont feel like presenting scans rn)
The couple have good stealth as well and Lorenzo can trick the Ghostfaces by mimicking their voice.
 
ghostface wouldnt be manipulated by a old couple, especially wayne who if you look at his iq feats are quantifable enough to say it wouldnt be a easy “outsmart” also if all 3 charge head on it would bad for the couple as their overwhelming brute force together will topple them. and all three are highly trained with their knives. the best, wayne is able to deliver short rapid stabbing which will incapacitate them both. also wayne has been shown to brutally dismember greg, and stab jason rapidly to the points his guts fell out.
If they all charge head on they will ******* die. Both Lorenzo and Rachel are so much stronger than them, they all combined wouldn't be able to hold one of them down. They aren't winning this through brute strength.

wayne delivering short rapid fire stabbing wouldn't even incapitate them at all. Both of them can endure being set on fire, being tortured in hell, and Lorenzo can endure self mutilation. At best it slightly bothers him before Wayne get's his jaw ripped off.

Wayne would never get the opportunity to keep either of them still long enough to stab them to where their guts fall out. He'd get himself killed before that happened.
even if the scenario is stealth thats a even bigger advantage for ghostface who will offgaurd stab them. (u can check their stealth feats via clips on their respective pages, i dont feel like presenting scans rn)
Rachel alone has stealth feats of hiding in wide open rooms, vanishing from thin air, and having stealth so good it borderlines on appearing as teleportation.

Good ******* luck with tryna out stealth either of them. Not a single one of the three pages have any stealth feats listed besides one, who is a bare bones stealth mastery at best and is completely overshadowed by the waterman's stealth feats.
 
If they all charge head on they will ******* die. Both Lorenzo and Rachel are so much stronger than them, they all combined wouldn't be able to hold one of them down. They aren't winning this through brute strength.

wayne delivering short rapid fire stabbing wouldn't even incapitate them at all. Both of them can endure being set on fire, being tortured in hell, and Lorenzo can endure self mutilation. At best it slightly bothers him before Wayne get's his jaw ripped off.

Wayne would never get the opportunity to keep either of them still long enough to stab them to where their guts fall out. He'd get himself killed before that happened.

Rachel alone has stealth feats of hiding in wide open rooms, vanishing from thin air, and having stealth so good it borderlines on appearing as teleportation.

Good ******* luck with tryna out stealth either of them. Not a single one of the three pages have any stealth feats listed besides one, who is a bare bones stealth mastery at best and is completely overshadowed by the waterman's stealth feats.
alright read over their feats i agree, but this isnt how it works. if i vote someone and give my reasons u mark my vote. not debate back and forth lol.
 
alright read over their feats i agree, but this isnt how it works. if i vote someone and give my reasons u mark my vote. not debate back and forth lol.
You do know that your vote wouldn't count if your reasoning doesn't make much sense, right?
 
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