So The Outsider, in this instance, is able to domain expansion the opponent into an air hockey match...but what after that?
opponents are able to use their abilities while in matches, and both Soul and Nhazul have options that would damage The Outsider to the point of death (Soul has clones, soul manip, body puppetry, invulnerability while he's moving and deconstruction beams that can cover large buildings (and with clones even larger areas).
The Outsider has dealt with clones (example being the second Kakkoi fight) and can deal with Soul Manip and Body Puppetery with his mobility as they'll have to rely on positioning and weaponry for that (Also I don't think Body Puppetery will work given
his Willpower overriding the Player's choice). There's nothing indicating that Soul's invulnerability allows him to avoid anything but physical damage, since it's multiple times in the past that Spug and Connor didn't really use their Soul Manip in matches, so the Outsider should still be able to damage him (besides, Soul Stealing and Soul Damage are two seperate things in general).
Soul's deconstruction is described as having it's target "taken apart at the atomic level to reduce whatever's hit to ash", the Outsider has been hit by radioactive attacks which can turn him to ash and are also
on the atomic level, thus he would be able to take hits from them and heal from them.
Nhazul can sense The Outsider's magic, see his moves before he even makes them (precognition) and reflect any of The Outsider's non-durability-negating attacks.
So he might be able to see his moves, but with how fast the Outsider can move in short bursts he doesn't really have any way to capitalize on it (or avoid it). Also reflect what? The Outsider's SPECIAL deals direct damage that can't really be avoided and playing air hockey also deals direct damage upon hitting the goal.
Sure The Outsider could restart that using his time manipulation, but that could easily be chalked up to a game mechanic (it usually is unless proof is shown that the listed ability is indeed the case, and funnily enough that's the only ability he has with no listed proof) and even if he did he'd have to deal with the same unavoidable attacks.
Wha- did you not see the note?
This is shown to be a canonical ability due to
the narrator cheering you on after showing encouragement when
they previously didn't at the start of Yukari's fight
Also you said you accepted it as an ability when I submitted the character, so I don't know why you're choosing to now disprove it. Besides, I've already addressed the only "unavoidable attack" previously mentioned as easily survivable, so you might wanna actually mention the other while you're at it.
Since both teams start 4 kilometers away (via SBA), there may be some time to chat, but given that via the speed equalization rules both teams are now at Massively FTL+ speed there won't be too much time to chat
Not how that works, they'd be the speed of the slowest fighter which would either be the Outsider or Nhazul, depending on where he's intended to scale. Either way, it's been assumed in past tourneys that dialogue was also equalized alongside speed (makes senes given fictions general disregard for how sound actually works) and the Outsider has frequently shown he has no issue talking during a fight.
Conquest dealing with Nhazul or Soul is also not an option at all, he is heavily outclassed in almost all statistics and both are hundreds of times stronger, essentially making this a 2v1 of Nhazul & Soul Vs The Outsider.
Nah the Outsider's fine, the one-shot gap is 8x and he's only 4.9x weaker at most (and that gap would probably lower overtime since the Outsider's empowerment generally equalizes him to his opponent) and he can tank for Conquest because he basically domain expansion everyone into a game of air hockey instantly if that makes sense.
Yeah no Conquest would be fine, he can engage in the fight like a combination of
Sakuya,
Byakuren and
Hisoutensoku. the Outsider can deal with 2v1 scenarios regardless, which is also a great time to mention he can damage both enemies at once by playing the Air Hockey game.
This is because I found something that kind of contradicts his regeneration a little bit...The link shows him being blasted by flame, appearing in Gensokyo and waking up an unknown time later with multiple bone fractures and severe radiation poisoning...that's Mid-High over time, not just Mid-High, and he took some serious damage regardless.
That is only meant to shown the attacks the Outsider can heal from with the HEAL button, that's not the moment in which his healing took effect (Plus I'd figured that it'd be obvious since Yukari was involved that it was a seperate thing).
Another thing i'd like to ask...by his Mid-Game key, has he played against Yukari yet? His weaknesses state that opponents aren't always killed after matches (Quote, "Meaning if the opponent is defeated, but is neither knocked out or hasn't given up after the match, nothing prevents them from instantly killing the Outsider (though this weakness is likely no longer applicable since fighting Yukari);"), and if he has I'd like a link :>
Yukari's fight is in End Game and it was more referring to "the Outsider has NO idea that it's willpower that gives him strength to fight his opponents" rather than the pacifist thing. Given SBA rules,
he's definitely gonna try to put his opponents in a wheel chair at a minimum. Also it says "if the opponent is defeated,
but is neither knocked out or hasn't given up after the match, nothing prevents them from instantly killing the Outsider"
So if you can't be bothered to read the whole thing, here's a summary of the main arguments:
- The Outsider can tank all the damage for Conquest while he carries all the players into space. where Nhazul can't survive. They can also definitely try to communicate before they have to engage in combat, assuming the opponents won't try to strategize with eachother for some reason?
- The Outsider can survive or avoid his opponents strongest attacks with his resistances or willpower (including atomic deconstruction and forced dancing), while also being put on damage directly that can't be physically healed (except for Nhazul who has no soul).
- The Outsider can also heal from said atomic damage with his HEAL in combat, which is not "the overtime regen feat that's also not really a feat because Yukari is involved in it somehow"
- The Outsider can also practice with his Time Manipulation restarts and generally improve overtime, even if he might not have memories of his previous restarts like Clover.
Hmm? "What about the air hockey domain expansion activating at only melee range", his opponents both have Melee weaponry as primary weapons (Swords, Scythes and
a robotic arm that Soul is overly reliant on) and at most have Hundreds of Meters with certain abilties or techniques,
they're not Kakkoi with a gun. Also given that the air hockey table was given to them by a Shrine Maiden and a Magician, it can be reasonable assumed that whatever the table does is magical in nature and would scale to the Outsider's feat of lighting up constellations and undoing all of Yukari's damage in terms of range (the latter technically being done with End Game willpower but the point was consistency anyway).
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