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Fighting Our Way - Yourself vs The Combat Chronicles Guy [GRACE]

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Fight will take place in The Judgement Hall from Undertale with a 10 meters starting distance, Speed Equalised, See here for restrictions, SBA for everything else.

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so uh for some reason I couldn't get the fc/oc wiki image so here
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Combat Guy scales to 9.35-11.68 MJ, I believe, while Yourself scales to 7.2 MJ. This makes Combat Guy 29.86 to 62.22% stronger than Yourself. He also has the intelligence advantage. However, Yourself has the LS advantage (Class K vs 100), range advantage, and Hax (which is really important here as Yourself can heal as he’s damaging Combat Guy). I’m gonna see if any arguments for Combat Guy come up before voting, though.
 
So uh, what's stopping Yourself from range + hax spamming? Also if Combat Guy gets close he could possibly grab him too
 
So uh, what's stopping Yourself from range + hax spamming? Also if Combat Guy gets close he could possibly grab him too
He has the heavy AP and IQ advantage...plus, he's pretty large in this form (think just slightly smaller than the worlds tallest human and built like Hulk), the easiest thing to grab onto would be his clothes, and that wouldn't do too much :0
Before I continue also...could Yourself just...warp the combat chronicles guy out of existence? If so, this is a stomp. if not, then I have further arguments :3
 
He has the heavy AP
I mean not really? like he's x1.5 stronger at best and I could probably take on someone about that much stronger than me if I had yourself's abilities
plus, he's pretty large in this form (think just slightly smaller than the worlds tallest human and built like Hulk)
you gotta add this stuff to the profile, the art completely contradicts this and I'm not a mind reader. Regardless this isn't really a matchup of size due to Yourself's abilities mainly taking this for him, he could just range + hax spam and and use LS if he gets close. This also combats the IQ thing since it's very basic but effective techniques (Like Saitama for example does this)
the easiest thing to grab onto would be his clothes, and that wouldn't do too much
he wouldn't do that
Before I continue also...could Yourself just...warp the combat chronicles guy out of existence? If so, this is a stomp. if not, then I have further arguments :3
you really overestimate reality warping. that's EE not reality warping. Yourself's reality warping is just controlling the colour palette of the world around him and that spiral behind him, it's barely usable in a fight aside from throwing someone off
 
you gotta add this stuff to the profile, the art completely contradicts this and I'm not a mind reader.
He's in his base form in the main picture...plus, there's an image at the bottom of the page showing his arm in strongman mode, and it looks humongous-

Regardless this isn't really a matchup of size due to Yourself's abilities mainly taking this for him, he could just range + hax spam and and use LS if he gets close. This also combats the IQ thing since it's very basic but effective techniques (Like Saitama for example does this)
Looking at the abilities and references, Yourself's only 2 serious ranged abilities are his mic and his draining, which both seem to work at several meters. His elasticity is really minor and mostly applies to his mouth judged by the video link, and his Mic only reaches several meters, with his draining never being shown to reach farther beyond that point either. However, his size manipulation does negate the previous point I made :3

I haven't even gotten to TCCG's sound manipulation, which would definitely damage Yourself, nor the fact that his information analysis gives him all of Yourself's info (as it is publicly availiable on the internet). His IQ and Combat IQ isn't something to underestimate, either :0
 
and his Mic only reaches several meters
this should still him a pretty good win con
with his draining never being shown to reach farther beyond that point either
same goes for this, he just needs to make bf miss ONCE after a full drain is completed for him to die which is VERY useful to have
I haven't even gotten to TCCG's sound manipulation, which would definitely damage Yourself
Yourself shatters glass himself with no affect on him, he'd be fine (I will add this to the profile)
nor the fact that his information analysis gives him all of Yourself's info (as it is publicly availiable on the internet)
Yourself, as far as we currently know, is some guy who chills in mirrors grieving his gf and not much beyond that. He wouldn't get much information on him if any at all.
 
same goes for this, he just needs to make bf miss ONCE after a full drain is completed for him to die which is VERY useful to have
You know thinking about it, is that even life manipulation?

Sure it's definitely modified from the normal bar showing the balance of power between you and the opponent but it's not like you see the given opposition actually heal by any means, or get physically wounded by you making back up the difference, it's just in that world losing a rap battle suddenly shatters all your bones or something equally horrible
 
Sure it's definitely modified from the normal bar showing the balance of power between you and the opponent but it's not like you see the given opposition actually heal by any means, or get physically wounded by you making back up the difference, it's just in that world losing a rap battle suddenly shatters all your bones or something equally horrible
even if we are being extremely not generous and say loosing a battle just breaks your bones or something, wouldn't that be enough? Building up the ability to crack ALL of combat guys bones would incap him with ease, if not kill him. And it's not like combat guy has any musical or rap skills either
 
this should still him a pretty good win con
It's a weapon, and from what I can tell it's far from an insta-kill one..

same goes for this, he just needs to make bf miss ONCE after a full drain is completed for him to die which is VERY useful to have
So he has death manipulation now? And how would that even work, TCCG has to sing or else he dies? I'll get to this more later-

Yourself shatters glass himself with no affect on him, he'd be fine (I will add this to the profile)
ok-

Yourself, as far as we currently know, is some guy who chills in mirrors grieving his gf and not much beyond that. He wouldn't get much information on him if any at all.
TCCG knows the info on Yourself as long as it's publicly available on the internet anywhere...sure he may not know too much about the guy's personality, but he'd have full access to his info (the publicly linked FC/OC Battles wiki page on the forum thread) as well as his showings of power (the linked YouTube video and FNF mod he's a part of), as well as any and all publicly available info on Yourself elsewhere. It's a pretty strong ability!

even if we are being extremely not generous and say loosing a battle just breaks your bones or something, wouldn't that be enough? Building up the ability to crack ALL of combat guys bones would incap him with ease, if not kill him. And it's not like combat guy has any musical or rap skills either
This is a matchup, not a rap battle...if all fanmade FNF mod characters had to go by that logic, then they'd win more of their fights and BF's only current matchup would have a stronger argument against the opponent. Plus, neither Yourself nor any current VSBW FNF character has that ability listed...It's who would win in a fight, not who would win in a rap battle-

Speaking of which, even ignoring the huge intelligence gap, sound manipulation, the fact that he already knows all of Yourself's abilities and that he's stronger, he has accelerated development, statistics amplification and analytical prediction, making him stronger, faster and harder to fight as the matchup goes on. From what I can see, Yourself isn't resistant to extreme heat, so the fire manipulation would help a ton in this matchup :3
 
So he has death manipulation now?
no
And how would that even work, TCCG has to sing or else he dies?
no
TCCG knows the info on Yourself as long as it's publicly available on the internet anywhere...sure he may not know too much about the guy's personality, but he'd have full access to his info (the publicly linked FC/OC Battles wiki page on the forum thread) as well as his showings of power (the linked YouTube video and FNF mod he's a part of), as well as any and all publicly available info on Yourself elsewhere. It's a pretty strong ability!
ok, that's verging on 2-C arguments but let's ignore that
This is a matchup, not a rap battle...if all fanmade FNF mod characters had to go by that logic, then they'd win more of their fights and BF's only current matchup would have a stronger argument against the opponent. Plus, neither Yourself nor any current VSBW FNF character has that ability listed...It's who would win in a fight, not who would win in a rap battle-
yeah I didn't format that well, but the short is that Yourself drains health from TCCG (which regardless of the lack of bruises, should still be counted as damage)
huge intelligence gap
Eh it's more of a ability fight than intelligence, I don't think either could form any plans against each other
sound manipulation
resisted
fact that he already knows all of Yourself's abilities and that he's stronger, he has accelerated development, statistics amplification and analytical prediction, making him stronger, faster and harder to fight as the matchup goes on
eh fair, but Yourself has Dimensional Travel to make things into a playing field he's more used to, Health Hax, and MUCH better LS
Yourself isn't resistant to extreme heat, so the fire manipulation would help a ton in this matchup :3
Eh yeah it'd probably do SOME damage but Yourself should just be able to outrange pretty well
 
yeah I didn't format that well, but the short is that Yourself drains health from TCCG (which regardless of the lack of bruises, should still be counted as damage)
Fair enough :3
eh fair, but Yourself has Dimensional Travel to make things into a playing field he's more used to, Health Hax, and MUCH better LS
The dimensional travel looks to be somewhat reactable in the video...BF is able to see a silhouette of the guy before he steps out of the mirror, and via the battle's location there aren't any mirrors around...he has no proof that he can go through other things, so it's unlikely he'd be able to use dimensional travel in the judgement hall. Furthermore, and as shown in the video and above, there's no proof that Yourself is healing from his health hax, only draining, and from what's shown it seems to only be in effect while Yourself is singing, and the draining itself looks to need about 25s of straight singing for it to kill the opponent (and this [specifically the killing, not the draining of the opponent] could easily be chalked up to a game mechanic rather than an ability, as a lot of video game characters would have a bunch more abilities if this weren't the case). He also only uses his microphone a single time throughout the entire video, it doesn't look to be his main weapon. Even if it was, they each both have 2 options for range (both with sound manip, which won't work on either, or fire manip/the mic for several meters), which are the same range :0

Funnily enough, Boyfriend doesn't seem to really be all that affected by the microphone hitting him, and besides that Yourself doesn't even touch boyfriend. He may be 10-B physically, 9-B with microphone, and he shows no other physical feats that show otherwise :0

You're also underestimating how much of a game changer IQ and combat IQ can be...if you were to be physically as strong as a trained boxer or martial artist, they'd likely win because of the skill difference, and according to what i've asked it makes a pretty fair difference, especially since this is a close-range match :3

ALSO sorry if I came off rude in the previous message...today gave me the biggest middle finger, and it shows :[

EDIT: After thinking about it a little bit, if changing the background of a video is non-combat applicable reality warping and being resistant to your own sound manipulation counts as resistance to sound manipulation, The Combat Chronicles Guy has that...I've added those 2 to TCCG's profile :0
 
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Funnily enough, Boyfriend doesn't seem to really be all that affected by the microphone hitting him, and besides that Yourself doesn't even touch boyfriend. He may be 10-B physically, 9-B with microphone, and he shows no other physical feats that show otherwise :0
He is actually Boyfriend, he should scale regardless of a lack of feats because he is him
You're also underestimating how much of a game changer IQ and combat IQ can be...if you were to be physically as strong as a trained boxer or martial artist, they'd likely win because of the skill difference, and according to what i've asked it makes a pretty fair difference, especially since this is a close-range match :3
alright fair. Combat Guy FRA
 
I'll just count this as a combat guy W and move onto the last round. I NEED MORE CAR MATCHUPS!!!
 
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