The Dark Defender vs The Shape (Dexter Morgan vs Michael Myers (Green Timeline)) (8-4-0)

[ThePrimalHunter]

Now that Dexter is 9-B, this match can finally happen

Dexter Morgan (TV Series) vs Michael Myers (Green Timeline)

Rules:

• Both are 9-B
• Speed is equal
• Fight takes place in a junkyard on Halloween night
• Both start 20 meters apart & in hiding
• Both have prior knowledge

Dexter is 31,650.22 Joules & 567 kgf
Michael is 30,521.86 Joules & 567 kgf

Dexter has a 1.04x AP advantage
Both are equal in LS

Who Wins?

Dexter Morgan: 8 (HorrorHistory, King_Dom470, AThe1412, EnderLord8, Ebihara, Johi13, 69Blood69, VIZION99)
Michael Myers: 4 (09Kayson09, Arkenis, Arkansalter2, Pyro9278)
Inconclusive: 0 ()

 

[Ebihara]

following.

 

[09Kayson09]

I'm not going to lie, I'm a fan of both of them but only one of them will get out of here alive, so...

You didn't say what weapons Dexter and Myers will be using in this battle so I'm going to guess that Dexter will be equipped with an M99 knife and syringe and Myers with his kitchen knife. The syringe would be an obvious problem for Myers if Dexter came up with a good strategy to catch Myers by surprise and put him to sleep and kill him soon after, Dexter would win if that were the scenario. But without the syringe Dexter would be at a disadvantage, Myers has much greater stamina than Dexter which would allow him to survive Dexter's attacks and not tire quickly and this combined with Myers' type 2 immortality this would be an even bigger problem than Dexter since Myers would not fall to the ground so easily. Although Dexter has better combat than Myers, I honestly don't think this would help much, besides Myers having RE (Reactive Evolution). Come to think of it, Dexter could even attack Myers in vital points with his knife but Myers' type 2 immortality + superhuman stamina combo wouldn't help much either. I vote for Myers, sorry Dexter

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I'm not going to lie, I'm a fan of both of them but only one of them will get out of here alive, so...

You didn't say what weapons Dexter and Myers will be using in this battle so I'm going to guess that Dexter will be equipped with an M99 knife and syringe and Myers with his kitchen knife. The syringe would be an obvious problem for Myers if Dexter came up with a good strategy to catch Myers by surprise and put him to sleep and kill him soon after, Dexter would win if that were the scenario. But without the syringe Dexter would be at a disadvantage, Myers has much greater stamina than Dexter which would allow him to survive Dexter's attacks and not tire quickly and this combined with Myers' type 2 immortality this would be an even bigger problem than Dexter since Myers would not fall to the ground so easily. Although Dexter has better combat than Myers, I honestly don't think this would help much, besides Myers having RE (Reactive Evolution). Come to think of it, Dexter could even attack Myers in vital points with his knife but Myers' type 2 immortality + superhuman stamina combo wouldn't help much either. I vote for Myers, sorry Dexter

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[09Kayson09]

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I forgot to tell you but now Myers has had a small update in his LS, from Class 1 to ''Class 1, likely Class 10'', that is, Dexter is no longer equal with Myers in LS

 

[EnderLord8]

I forgot to tell you but now Myers has had a small update in his LS, from Class 1 to ''Class 1, likely Class 10'', that is, Dexter is no longer equal with Myers in LS

Class 10 would probably only apply if the OP decides to do so, since the Class 10 option is optional.

 

[AThe1412]

Class 10 would probably only apply if the OP decides to do so, since the Class 10 option is optional.

It's the exact opposite actually. The Class 10 would only not apply if the OP chooses it.

 

[King_Dom470]

Dexter's stamina is gonna be much higher soon + I honestly think his combat and stealth is gonna huge problem for Myers, especially if Dexter has his standard equipment (which going by SBA, he should)

 

[Arkenis]

Voting Myers. Dexter doesn't have the endurance to stay up close with him and that's Myers main thing. Only thing I see being a problem is Dex getting the drop on him and using m99.

stealth is gonna huge problem for Myers

Huh? Am I missing something? Myers has the superior stealth here.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

It's the exact opposite actually. The Class 10 would only not apply if the OP chooses it.

The Class 10 end was removed from the profile

Also, we're using his Class 1 LS here

Dexter is 31,650.22 Joules & 567 kgf
Michael is 30,521.86 Joules & 567 kgf

Dexter has a 1.04x AP advantage
Both are equal in LS

Voting Myers. Dexter doesn't have the endurance to stay up close with him and that's Myers main thing. Only thing I see being a problem is Dex getting the drop on him and using m99.

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[HorrorHistory]

Dexter’s enhanced awareness might come in handy here.
Also does Dex have his M99?

 

[09Kayson09]

stealth is gonna huge problem for Myers

If we analyze the stealth feats of both, Myers has much better stealth than Dexter.

 

[AThe1412]

If we analyze the stealth feats of both, Myers has much better stealth than Dexter.

But Dexter has enhanced awareness + his family to warn him while Mike has no way to find Dexter.

 

[King_Dom470]

If we analyze the stealth feats of both, Myers has much better stealth than Dexter.

Meh, maybe but it’s like Athe said there is no shot Michael manages to sneak up on him

 

[Arkansalter2]

Going with Michael here. It's gonna be REALLY hard to get through Immo 2. By the time Dex figures out a way, it would likely be too late.
Michael, mid diff.

 

[HorrorHistory]

I might go with Dexter for this one, if not then it’s leaning more towards inconclusive. Both are equal in LS, and basically equal in AP as well, so there’s no advantage there. Michael has higher stamina + immortality type 2 which Dexter would struggle to get passed. But Dexter also has enhanced awareness, so despite Michael’s higher stealth, that’s a good counter on Dexter’s part. I don’t know which equipment they have, so I’ll assume standard which gives Dexter his M99 + a knife which he knows how to target weak points in.

So I’m going Dexter high-extreme diff

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Going with Michael here. It's gonna be REALLY hard to get through Immo 2. By the time Dex figures out a way, it would likely be too late.
Michael, mid diff.

I might go with Dexter for this one, if not then it’s leaning more towards inconclusive. Both are equal in LS, and basically equal in AP as well, so there’s no advantage there. Michael has higher stamina + immortality type 2 which Dexter would struggle to get passed. But Dexter also has enhanced awareness, so despite Michael’s higher stealth, that’s a good counter on Dexter’s part. I don’t know which equipment they have, so I’ll assume standard which gives Dexter his M99 + a knife which he knows how to target weak points in.

So I’m going Dexter high-extreme diff

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[King_Dom470]

Dexter via Horrorhistory’s reasoning

Dexter’s skill, stealth and M99 should carry him to victory

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Dexter via Horrorhistory’s reasoning

Dexter’s skill, stealth and M99 should carry him to victory

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[AThe1412]

Bay Harbour Butcher FRA.

 

[Pyro9278]

Michael FRA

 

[EnderLord8]

I agree with Horror, I'm going to vote for Dexter

 

[Ebihara]

dexter FRA

 

[AThe1412]

Not sure why some are voting for Mike when M99 is Dex's in character first move and the former has no resistance to it.

 

[Arkenis]

Myers in character also sneaks up on people or waits for them. Dex is not getting that on Myers without wanking Dex's stealth which is below Myers.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Bay Harbour Butcher FRA.

Michael FRA

I agree with Horror, I'm going to vote for Dexter

dexter FRA

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[Arkansalter2]

Myers in character also sneaks up on people or waits for them. Dex is not getting that on Myers without wanking Dex's stealth which is below Myers.

His stealth is so good that someone could keep a visual lock on Myers and Myers will still somehow elude their senses. He can sneak up on people even when the environment is dead silent.

 

[AThe1412]

Myers in character also sneaks up on people or waits for them. Dex is not getting that on Myers without wanking Dex's stealth which is below Myers.

Dex can detect him through debatably supernatural means while Myers has no enhanced senses (Laurie who has showcased far less impressive stealth feats managed to get the drop on him so Dexter shouldn't have any trouble).

 

[Johi13]

Given Dex has the AP Advantage and Prior Knowledge voting him extreme diff.

 

[Arkenis]

Dex can detect him through debatably supernatural means while Myers has no enhanced senses (Laurie who has showcased far less impressive stealth feats managed to get the drop on him so Dexter shouldn't have any trouble).

• Enhanced Senses (Enhanced Awareness: Dexter is nearly always alert of his surroundings, he's able to notice little details that most police officers misses, he has noted hidden cameras, attacks coming from behind, and he was also able to know when someone was following him, plenty of times during the series)

What's supernatural about this?

 

[AThe1412]

• Enhanced Senses (Enhanced Awareness: Dexter is nearly always alert of his surroundings, he's able to notice little details that most police officers misses, he has noted hidden cameras, attacks coming from behind, and he was also able to know when someone was following him, plenty of times during the series)

What's supernatural about this?

That's one half of it. Here's the other one.

"Multiple Selves (Type 1, possibly 2 - Dexter's deceased brother seemingly killed a pot farmer, Brian was also able to throw body parts into the ocean despite Dexter being preoccupied. Harry's spirit is implied to loom over Dexter. His deceased family members are seemingly capable of giving him advice, a past vision of him was able to warn him of an incoming attack)"

They can warn him about threats that he himself isn't aware of.

 

[Arkenis]

I don't think that's gonna work here with Myers.

 

[AThe1412]

I don't think that's gonna work here with Myers.

You don't think so? Any reasons other than that? Dex's senses allow him to deal with sneak attacks and he has literal ghosts telling him where Mike is. Meanwhile, Michael has no way to counter his stealth and Laurie, whose stealth feats aren't as impressive as Dexter, can sneak up on him. I'm repeating things I have already written.

 

[Arkansalter2]

whose stealth feats aren't as impressive as Dexter

I'm pretty sure that Myers stealth is more impressive than Dexters.
Dex is only somewhat decent when he has Dark Passenger.
Myers can somehow completely elude peoples senses, even when they have a visual lock on them.
He can literally fall out a second story building, laying flat on the ground, and within 3 seconds, he'd be gone.
And we got the classic "He'll always end up behind you when you're running."

 

[Arkenis]

You don't think so? Any reasons other than that? Dex's senses allow him to deal with sneak attacks and he has literal ghosts telling him where Mike is. Meanwhile, Michael has no way to counter his stealth and Laurie, whose stealth feats aren't as impressive as Dexter, can sneak up on him. I'm repeating things I have already written.

Because nothing there shows it'll work on Myers. For one the only time he's warned of an attack, it's too late, and the rest are mundane information being given to him or something that won't help here. And secondly this assumes the ghosts can sense Myers, why? And there's just no context reasonable that Dexter is gonna sneak up on him when Myers normally hides more than Dex does.

 

[AThe1412]

I'm pretty sure that Myers stealth is more impressive than Dexters.
Dex is only somewhat decent when he has Dark Passenger.
Myers can somehow completely elude peoples senses, even when they have a visual lock on them.
He can literally fall out a second story building, laying flat on the ground, and within 3 seconds, he'd be gone.
And we got the classic "He'll always end up behind you when you're running."

I'm not talking about Mike's stealth. I'm talking about Laurie's. If she can sneak up on him despite having worse stealth then why wouldn't Dexter be able to do the same with better stealth?

Because nothing there shows it'll work on Myers. For one the only time he's warned of an attack, it's too late, and the rest are mundane information being given to him or something that won't help here. And secondly this assumes the ghosts can sense Myers, why?

Because they've been shown to notice things Dexter himself doesn't. You already looked at the scans for Dexter's senses (or at least I hope you did) and they're even better than that. He didn't know where one of his victims was hiding and Brian immediately pointed it to him (this is the same Brian who managed to get the drop on Dex when he was still alive despite the latter's senses).

And there's just no context reasonable that Dexter is gonna sneak up on him when Myers normally hides more than Dex does.

Dexter's first move is to sneak up on his victims. That's how he kidnaps and murders 90% of them. In comparison, Mike directly confronts his targets more often.

 

[Arkenis]

Because they've been shown to notice things Dexter himself doesn't. You already looked at the scans for Dexter's senses (or at least I hope you did) and they're even better than that. He didn't know where one of his victims was hiding and Brian immediately pointed it to him (this is the same Brian who managed to get the drop on Dex when he was still alive despite the latter's senses).

That doesn't match Myers bypassing senses himself.

Dexter's first move is to sneak up on his victims. That's how he kidnaps and murders 90% of them. In comparison, Mike directly confronts his targets more often.

Myers usually stalks and lies in wait what are you talking about?

 

[AThe1412]

That doesn't match Myers bypassing senses himself.

Average human senses, you mean?

Myers usually stalks and lies in wait what are you talking about?

Are we just gonna ignore all the times he reveals himself in front of more than two people?

 

[Arkenis]

Average human senses, you mean?

Which is what Dex has.

Are we just gonna ignore all the times he reveals himself in front of more than two people?

No, but he generally stalks and hides.

 

[AThe1412]

Which is what Dex has.

Oh yeah, let's just ignore abilities that are accepted on the profile now. Have you read his intelligence section too?

No, but he generally stalks and hides.

But does he do it as often as Dexter does, you know, while constantly surrounded by people and actively working with the police for years?