Zhuo Fan – Higher-Dimensional Existence

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Hello everyone so finally i have a free time to create this thread

This thread outlines evidence that Zhuo Fan from Magic Emperor qualifies as a Higher-Dimensional Existence, based on textual statements and cosmological context provided across the late-game.
So Let's Start

Zhuo Fan Transcends the “Pinnacle of the World”
Heavenly Sword God confirms that the Ultimate Design a fusion of the strongest human and demonic cultivation reaches the highest point of the world’s power system. He then explicitly states that Zhuo Fan resides beyond this peak, in an “infinite realm” beyond the finite limits of their reality.

“Its power is at the very limit of this world… just a hint away from overcoming its barrier… the barrier that is the limit of this world’s pinnacle, and the infinite one where Zhuo Fan resides.”
-Chapter 889

Zhuo Fan Exists Beyond Space and Time
Upon reaching the level of the Heavenly Dao Supremer transcends time and space completely. He is described as able to appear anywhere and anywhen, unaffected by the laws of spacetime themselves. Zhuo Fan already surpass this stage

“As the Heavenly Dao Supremer, able to appear at any point in space and time, overseeing the universe without any resistance from the spacetime laws…”
-Chapter 905

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Zhuo Fan is not just a stronger being but exists outside the dimensional structure of the known world. He is described as having transcended the peak of existence, overcome the world’s dimensional limits, and freely traverses time and space.

Conclusion

Zhuo Fan should have a Higher-Dimensional Existence because
He transcends a finite cosmological barrier explicitly separating his level from the highest-dimensional beings of the main world. He exists and operates in a space described as infinite, unrestricted by time, space, or local metaphysical laws. He possesses freedom of movement across all spacetime.

Also the scan that i use is not from Magic Emperor it come from Sword God of the Heavenly Dao that connected to magic emperor also same author

Agree: @SweetDao @FinePoint @Elizhaa @Antvasima @Zeldris98764
Neutral: @LuffyRuffy46307
Disagree:

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

My Zhuo Fan is very powerful in the novel, i can't wait for the manga to adapt these arcs, for now i'm neutral trying to agree with it all

 

[SweetDao]

Also the scan that i use is not from Magic Emperor it come from Sword God of the Heavenly Dao that connected to magic emperor also same author

You have to prove it's by the same author and that it connects enough with the other novel before making any addition. So I suggest you to do so by editing the OP to do both at the same time.

Edit : Actually, just make a part in the OP about it and that should be fine, I think, seeing Zhuo Fan is directly mentioned (assuming it's the same)

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

You have to prove it's by the same author and that it connects enough with the other novel before making any addition. So I suggest you to do so by editing the OP to do both at the same time.

Edit : Actually, just make a part in the OP about it and that should be fine, I think, seeing Zhuo Fan is directly mentioned (assuming it's the same)

What do you think about HDE?

 

[SweetDao]

What do you think about HDE?

I'll check if everything is fine with the OP first, but I guess it's possible, yeah.

You mention the text was translated by "DDL", who is it?

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

I'll check if everything is fine with the OP first, but I guess it's possible, yeah.

You mention the text was translated by "DDL", who is it?

The translator of Novel and same translator of martial peak

 

[SweetDao]

The translator of Novel and same translator of martial peak

I mean, did he officially translate the second novel? Did you directly asked him?

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

I mean, did he officially translate the second novel? Did you directly asked him?

Yes, but not the whole novel i only send him some context and he translate it

 

[FinePoint]

Just a clarifying question, is the first part implying that the typical universe isn't Low 2-C in this instance?

Like it's literally finite?

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Just a clarifying question, is the first part implying that the typical universe isn't Low 2-C in this instance?

Like it's literally finite?

Yes, the typical universe in this context is explicitly portrayed as finite, both in structure and potential, and is not operating at a Tier 2 Low 2-C or higher scale by default. The "barrier" represents the upper metaphysical limit of that finite cosmology, which Zhuo Fan transcends.

 

[FinePoint]

Yes, the typical universe in this context is explicitly portrayed as finite, both in structure and potential, and is not operating at a Tier 2 Low 2-C or higher scale by default. The "barrier" represents the upper metaphysical limit of that finite cosmology, which Zhuo Fan transcends.

Then how do we know Zhuo Fan doesn't just exist in a Low 2-C universe and has Immeasurable speed?

If he was truly a higher-dimensional being, he should have more than just freedom of movement.
Is there other evidence?

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Then how do we know Zhuo Fan doesn't just exist in a Low 2-C universe and has Immeasurable speed?

Yes, Zhuo Fan exist beyond the multiverse here and sphere is represent as a (universe)and I don't know about his immeasurable speed there's no more evidence for that

 

[FinePoint]

Yes, Zhuo Fan exist beyond the multiverse here and sphere is represent as a (universe)and I don't know about his immeasurable speed there's no more evidence for that

Alright. If he's able to pop entire universes like bubbles then that is far more fitting, thank you.

Therefore, I think Higher Dimensional Existence is probably okay.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Alright. If he's able to pop entire universes like bubbles then that is far more fitting, thank you.

Therefore, I think Higher Dimensional Existence is probably okay.

Thank you

 

[Elizhaa]

It looks fine.

 

[ZERGESS]

Im quite unsure if it really is HDE because of this statement
“You and I can’t overcome the barrier because neither of us is complete. Both of us lack something. However, together, we can overcome it. What do you say? Will you join me and unite all the worlds, not just this speck of Heavenly Continent?”
a higher dimensional existence cant be cover up using quantity iirc

 

[FinePoint]

Im quite unsure if it really is HDE because of this statement
“You and I can’t overcome the barrier because neither of us is complete. Both of us lack something. However, together, we can overcome it. What do you say? Will you join me and unite all the worlds, not just this speck of Heavenly Continent?”
a higher dimensional existence cant be cover up using quantity iirc

Well it's not uncommon in fiction for quantity to add and then suddenly jump to some qualitative difference.

Or more vaguely: we scale a fused form by its feats, not just assuming they add together 1:1.

 

[ZERGESS]

Well it's not uncommon in fiction for quantity to add and then suddenly jump to some qualitative difference.

Or more vaguely: we scale a fused form by its feats, not just assuming they add together 1:1.

Thats fine as well

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Do i need 3 staff of this?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that this seems reasonable.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

I think that this seems reasonable.

Thank you

 

[Zeldris98764]

Given that transcending a finite 3-D spacetime continuum into a state beyond its linear time and space is generally considered at least 4-D (qualifying for HDE), and the added scale of affecting multiple such "universes," I'd agree with HDE. Looks good.