Same genre, different characters (Sebastian Solace vs Figure)

[AppleMaker]

Rules:

• Speed is equalized
• Sebastian's equipment is restricted to Sawed-off Shotgun (could be removed, if it's a stomp)
• Starting distance is 2 meters
• Battle takes place in a random empty subway
• Both are 9c

Funny fish man: 3 (@AppleMaker); (@TheLunyFan); (@Mommyleona)
Blind non siren head: 3 (@HonestlyBored24); (@Arkansalter2); (@Mantidil)
Incon:

 

[AppleMaker]

Bump

 

[Comiphorous]

Why does sebastian's profile just kinda suck.

Like not only does it just not follow the same naming patterns as the other profiles (which i'm okay with for *his profile specifically, but someone else did it with the wall dweller and it pissed me off)

In the same sentences it claims he struggles but also defeats threats with ease at the same time.

Gets fear manipulation because the wall dweller runs away from him (something it usually does???)

Corrosion inducement resistance for supposedly fighting off Pandemonium even though theres literally zero proof of that beyond the fact he's alive.

Idk who made it but it's just not good.

 

[AppleMaker]

Why does sebastian's profile just kinda suck.

Like not only does it just not follow the same naming patterns as the other profiles (which i'm okay with for *his profile specifically, but someone else did it with the wall dweller and it pissed me off)

In the same sentences it claims he struggles but also defeats threats with ease at the same time.

Gets fear manipulation because the wall dweller runs away from him (something it usually does???)

Corrosion inducement resistance for supposedly fighting off Pandemonium even though theres literally zero proof of that beyond the fact he's alive.

Idk who made it but it's just not good.

Also I want to point out that his strength is lowballed. He literally broke metal part of flash beacon just by squeezing his hand, it's at least class 5

 

[AppleMaker]

Anyways, who would win in your opinion?

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Don’t really play PRESSURE, but I’ll put my inpit

Figure (I guess) has an AP advantage and a LS advantage over Sebastian, but Sebastian has a gun and guns kill people. I don’t think Sebastian’s stealth will allow him to sneak around Figure, since that only helps him play dead, and also he’s over 10 feet long, so stealth seems to be a no go unless there’s something about Sebastian sneaking around an enemy in PRESSURE.

Not gonna vote now, but I’m kind of leaning towards Sebastian just because he has a gun

 

[AppleMaker]

Don’t really play PRESSURE, but I’ll put my inpit

Figure (I guess) has an AP advantage and a LS advantage over Sebastian, but Sebastian has a gun and guns kill people. I don’t think Sebastian’s stealth will allow him to sneak around Figure, since that only helps him play dead, and also he’s over 10 feet long, so stealth seems to be a no go unless there’s something about Sebastian sneaking around an enemy in PRESSURE.

Not gonna vote now, but I’m kind of leaning towards Sebastian just because he has a gun

Figure DEFINETELY have LS advantage, but about AP I'm not sure, since there's no exact 9c values for Sebastian, since he just upscales from other characters. Anyways, thanks for commenting

 

[Comiphorous]

Don’t really play PRESSURE, but I’ll put my inpit

Figure (I guess) has an AP advantage and a LS advantage over Sebastian, but Sebastian has a gun and guns kill people. I don’t think Sebastian’s stealth will allow him to sneak around Figure, since that only helps him play dead, and also he’s over 10 feet long, so stealth seems to be a no go unless there’s something about Sebastian sneaking around an enemy in PRESSURE.

Not gonna vote now, but I’m kind of leaning towards Sebastian just because he has a gun

Sebastian doesn't start with his shotgun ic, so they'd go CQC first before he'd use his shotgun.

Figure DEFINETELY have LS advantage, but about AP I'm not sure, since there's no exact 9c values for Sebastian, since he just upscales from other characters. Anyways, thanks for commenting

Figure has an AP advantage based off the fact the people Sabastian upscales from are baseline.

 

[AppleMaker]

Figure has an AP advantage based off the fact the people Sabastian upscales from are baseline.

I meant monsters and hazards, like Wall dwellers and etc. They are baseline too?

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Sebastian doesn't start with his shotgun ic, so they'd go CQC first before he'd use his shotgun.

Okay well that automatically tips the odds in Figure’s favor due to the aforementioned AP and LS advantage

Uhh, unless anybody has a good counterpoint, blind dude FRA

 

[AppleMaker]

Okay well that automatically tips the odds in Figure’s favor due to the aforementioned AP and LS advantage

Uhh, unless anybody has a good counterpoint, blind dude FRA

Counted

 

[AppleMaker]

I'd vote for Sebastian, since I doubt monsters are that weak to be only baseline 9c, also even if he doesn't start with his shotgun - he could use it later (he's not getting one shoted cmon) and keep Figure at distance. Not to mention that Sebastian could push away Figure with his tail when Figure charges at him

 

[Arkansalter2]

To be completely fair, Sebastian doesn't really use his Shotgun unless he's blinded twice. Hell, he likely won't use it at all.
With that in mind, going with Figure. Figure has the big time LS advantage and it won't take long before Figure rips Sebby's head off.
Figure, low diff.

 

[AppleMaker]

To be completely fair, Sebastian doesn't really use his Shotgun unless he's blinded twice. Hell, he likely won't use it at all.
With that in mind, going with Figure. Figure has the big time LS advantage and it won't take long before Figure rips Sebby's head off.
Figure, low diff.

Figure is too short to reach Sebastian's head, but I got your point

 

[Imaginym]

I was asked to vote here.
I do not know either verse/character, so I am hesitant to vote.

 

[AppleMaker]

To be completely fair, Sebastian doesn't really use his Shotgun unless he's blinded twice. Hell, he likely won't use it at all.

Also he shot the Wall Dweller, so he uses it not that rarely

 

[Comiphorous]

I meant monsters and hazards, like Wall dwellers and etc. They are baseline too?

Sebastian doesn't scale to wall dwellers. he only kills them using his shotgun, he physically scales to killing urbanshade guards and the player (which is a 9-B feat pretty sure, so further case in point why his profile sucks ass)

I'd vote for Sebastian, since I doubt monsters are that weak to be only baseline 9c, also even if he doesn't start with his shotgun - he could use it later (he's not getting one shoted cmon) and keep Figure at distance. Not to mention that Sebastian could push away Figure with his tail when Figure charges at him

Most monsters are 9-B. there are very few of them are actually 9-C. but by profile those 9-Cs are that weak.

To be completely fair, Sebastian doesn't really use his Shotgun unless he's blinded twice. Hell, he likely won't use it at all.
With that in mind, going with Figure. Figure has the big time LS advantage and it won't take long before Figure rips Sebby's head off.
Figure, low diff.

Sebastian will actually use it against Wall Dwellers who enter his shop, but this is the only exception to his twice blinded rule.

Sebastian likely would only use it after fighting figure for a while.

 

[AppleMaker]

Should I count it as a vote for Figure?

 

[Comiphorous]

Should I count it as a vote for Figure?

no cuz lowkey Sebastian should oneshot since he can kill urbanshade personnel who can respectively withstand 300 and 750 gram explosive devices without long lasting damage to themselves.

This is of course, if Sebastian's profile didn't suck donkey balls. but we live in a terrible timeline.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Sebastian likely would only use it after fighting figure for a while.

Now heres the thing. The moment Sebby goes in for CQC, then it would be pretty much GGs. Sebby typically leads with that first. Figure isn't a wall dweller. He'd likely think that Figure is some other dude and try to bombrush figure... only to get grappled and his head ripped.

 

[Comiphorous]

Now heres the thing. The moment Sebby goes in for CQC, then it would be pretty much GGs. Sebby typically leads with that first. Figure isn't a wall dweller. He'd likely think that Figure is some other dude and try to bombrush figure... only to get grappled and his head ripped.

In a perfect world this wouldn't be a problem if Sebastian was tiered correctly.

but yeah, by current profile Sebastian gets his shit rocked.

Edit: pretty sure a 750 gram explosive device gets barely into 9-A, so he'd definitely oneshot if his profile didn't suck ass.

 

[TheLunyFan]

Sebastion FRA.

 

[Mantidil]

Don't know either character, but I am leaning towards Figure FRA

 

[AThe1412]

Why are we pitting two profiles that clearly suck ass right now against each other? They're both not even 9-B yet even though they should be. There's no point to making this match if it's just going to get removed when they're updated.

 

[AppleMaker]

Why are we pitting two profiles that clearly suck ass right now against each other? They're both not even 9-B yet even though they should be. There's no point to making this match if it's just going to get removed when they're updated.

The Figure profile hasn't got any updates in a while, so it possibly would stay that way as it is. Sebastian on the other hand might be remade (I'm planning on making crt about his lifting strength and low end ap)

 

[Comiphorous]

The Figure profile hasn't got any updates in a while, so it possibly would stay that way as it is. Sebastian on the other hand might be remade (I'm planning on making crt about his lifting strength and low end ap)

His AP should be a very lowend 9-A, so he's definitely not as high as he could be.

But either way, if we use the current profile Sebastian gets folded, but not a stomp

if we update them, Sebastian oneshots with 9-A AP.

Why are we pitting two profiles that clearly suck ass right now against each other? They're both not even 9-B yet even though they should be. There's no point to making this match if it's just going to get removed when they're updated.

You say that like anyone would care enough to make the calc to update him.

 

[AThe1412]

You say that like anyone would care enough to make the calc to update him.

We don't even need to make a new calculation to upgrade Figure. There's already a good one that he can scale above (Player kicking metal doors off their hinges).

 

[Comiphorous]

We don't even need to make a new calculation to upgrade Figure. There's already a good one that he can scale above (Player kicking metal doors off their hinges).

Thats not 9-B. they aren't even metal doors, they're vents. Figure can get 9-B based off the ruined rooms after door 50. otherwise he's stuck in 9-C.

 

[AThe1412]

Thats not 9-B. they aren't even metal doors, they're vents. Figure can get 9-B based off the ruined rooms after door 50. otherwise he's stuck in 9-C.

I'm talking about the metal doors in Floor 2 during the second Seek chase. Look it up.

 

[Comiphorous]

I'm talking about the metal doors in Floor 2 during the second Seek chase. Look it up.

Thats a street level feat, it actually might be lower since they don't do it in one go, they do it in 3.

 

[AppleMaker]

no cuz lowkey Sebastian should oneshot since he can kill urbanshade personnel who can respectively withstand 300 and 750 gram explosive devices without long lasting damage to themselves.

Erm, actually 300-750 gram of explosives are 0,0003-0,00075 in tons of tnt actually, which is not 9a

 

[AThe1412]

Thats a street level feat, it actually might be lower since they don't do it in one go, they do it in 3.

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Comiphorous]

References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Yes lets use the calculation for reinforced steel blast doors for something that doesn't even look like a reinforced steel blast door.

Erm, actually 300-750 gram of explosives are 0,0003-0,00075 in tons of tnt actually, which is not 9a

edit; read the message wrong mb

 

[AThe1412]

Yes lets use the calculation for reinforced steel blast doors for something that doesn't even look like a reinforced steel blast door.

So it's better to use the calculation for residential interior doors with brass hinges for something that's neither a residential interior door nor made out of brass?

 

[Comiphorous]

So it's better to use the calculation for residential interior doors with brass hinges for something that's neither a residential interior door nor made out of brass?

How would you know the hinges aren't made of brass? they literally didn't model the hinges lmao. Since there isn't anything saying they're made of something else, the assumption should be brass, which makes it a 9-C feat.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

Idk who made it but it's just not good.

Late ahh reply
but the Moment I saw the words "Boyfriend" (By Fans) in the Name section, and the way things were written

I immediately knew it's Imlegitnothing who made that goddamn pfp

(So many times wasted looking at the FC/OC, now Altbattle pfps of the Shitsaken Roblox game that I hate so goddamn much)

 

[AppleMaker]

but the Moment I saw the words "Boyfriend" (By Fans) in the Name section, and the way things were written

I immediately knew it's Imlegitnothing who made that goddamn pfp

(So many times wasted looking at the FC/OC, now Altbattle pfps of the Shitsaken Roblox game that I hate so goddamn much)

So what?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

So what?

idk, I was just compelled to say that, after I saw "the words "idk who made it"

 

[Comiphorous]

Late ahh reply
but the Moment I saw the words "Boyfriend" (By Fans) in the Name section, and the way things were written

I immediately knew it's Imlegitnothing who made that goddamn pfp

I actually don't have much of a problem with the boyfriend thing there. It's kinda funny. i just think his scaling and his abilities are wrong. He should be decently into 9-B flat without the pandemonium scaling.

 

[Mommyleona]

Sebby guns the figure down the second he sees them
The profiles are horrible tho