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In that case, would it count as "possibly Acausality Type 4"?
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Ninjago: Replacing/removing author statements
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I doubt it, since there's other contradictions too.
For example, him being stated to be 1000s of years old.
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Well, if he was LITERALLY the Low 1-C structure, then logically they'd have Low 1-C durability, I think.
The scan describes him as being exactly half of it.
(But again, I don't know if it will stay Low 1-C at the end of this, so I'm just approving scaling him to half of whatever the structure actually is.)
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It's one of 17 realms not 16
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Will the age of the realms in Ninjago is not older than him
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Okay, but how can you predate time as a concept but only be 1000s of years old?
Also, what is the proof that Ninjago isn't one of the 16 realms?
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IDK, ask @Overlord_Darkness, he's the one who made a CRT, got it accepted and added that to his profile.
He also either predates FSM or is born at least when he was born (see here).
Huh?
Yeah I don't freaking know who wrote Absorption there.
They resist their own elements being enforced on their bodies.
Also:
So I don't mind if you're not convinced, tbh.
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It's via Tommy Andreasen's statement that is banned. There are also statements of it being eons ago, so it's really contradictory.
FSM being born in First Realm before all Realms, and Overlord being born around his time kinda stands.
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The sixteen realms refers to the realms parallel to Ninjago, they are 17 when Ninjago is included. Nothing to do with the First Realm.
Mystake says here that it's the first (referring to the 16 Realms.)
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Prove it.
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What does age have to do with the this? I also don't know where it said his age is 1000s, even though his plan start since the beginning of the time.
I didn't say this
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It was somewhere else in the thread. Apparently that might've also been WOG.
Other people are.
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I'm literally saying that there's no proof that the Any of the realms (including Ninjago) predate Time.
Also look here
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Bruh, i say it older then 16 realms itsalf "The Realm of the Oni and Dragons is the oldest of the 17 Realm"
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Wow i don't even say ANY of them is predate Time LOL. I say Overlord predate all realms
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Yes because Ninjago is the other realm that makes them 17 realms. There are 17 realms including Ninjago, the 16 realms are the other realms parallel to It. So in total there 17 realms and The First Realm is the first of all of them (also the first of the 16 realms). I already included scans in my previous replies.
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Tbf this is a statement at the time of Dark Island Trilogy, before Oni Trilogy. At that time, there was no lore about Onis, Dragons, and First Realm, they were only introduced in Season 8, this episode, and before that lore the only thing was known about FSM he made Ninjago. So, uh, consider it a light retcon.
This one implies he was made after.
There is also a fact that Mistake is one of the first Onis who lived with FSM, before Wu's birth. Her wisdom also directly rivals Wu. So, it may be that she knows things Wu doesn't.
Either way, he was directly created as a response to FSM (wherever is light, there must always be a shadow), so him existing since FSM existed can't really be denied.
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These replacements seem fine, so moving on to the third thing.
This is probably sufficient too. On to 4th.
Yerp. On to 5th.
All good.
I'm a little confused how this is proof of resistance. Could someone explain the context here more clearly? (Preferably with more scans.)
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The Overlord had everything planned out before there was time, and he has been working on it since the beginning of time.
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I'm a little baffled how you can send me a quote saying it's been in works since the beginning of time then claim it's proof it was in works before the existence of time.
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What I say is that he planned it and started implementing it SINCE the beginning of time.
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No, you said: "The Overlord had everything planned out before there was time."
Which is categorically not supported by what you sent me.
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YH? If I'm not mistaken, "My master plan has been in the works since the beginning of time" is literally an indication that all of this was planned before time and started to be implemented when time began.
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Something being "in the works" means "starting to be created".
If it was "in the works" at the beginning of time, then it literally couldn't have already existed before time.
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Ok, so you only agree with Aca type 1?
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Yeah, I think he misworded there with "before time". Beginning of time is just a metaphorical way to say it has been since the ancient times.
What do you think of this, though:
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It means I disagree with Acausality Type 4.
As for 1, I'd need proof he's immune to the Cloud Kingdom or whatever.
The OP just circles back to him predating time.
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Well it seems like he came into being either shortly after the FSM made the universe or at about the same time.
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It says "whenever is light, there must always be shadow", and light in this context is FSM, so Overlord came right when he was born. Otherwise the statement would not hold true.
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It uses that as the reason he formed afterwards, so I don't think it has to imply they existed at the exact same time before that.
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I'll repeat myself:
1. We see Jay tanking his own lightning and recovring from it pretty fast (He was only pushed back by the explosion)
2. Stated Tox is likely immune to her own poison
3. Kai only being annoyed after being covered in flames from fighting Wyldyfre (an Elemental Master with Heat powers)
4. Lloyd, a Oni, taking an Oni blast without getting erased (Destruction can erase life), which means he resisted it
5. Omega and Garmadon, both Onis, taking a Destruction explosion caused by them clashing togheter, again without getting erased, implying they resisted it too
6. Kai walked throught his own wall of fire to beat up some Stone Warriors
7. Mr Pale is seemingly not affect by his omnidirectional blindness inducement light blast as he sneaks behind Lloyd while he was recovering
8. Overlord is unscathed inside a gigantic bubble composed of his own Darkness Element
9. Crystal Council members amped by the Element of Darkness from Overlord such as Pythor were able to able to hold the Weapons of Destructions (who were also amped by Darkness) without getting zombified on contact (which is what the element do as well as the Weapons)
Its a consistant thing inverse
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I'm iffy on 4 and 5, but otherwise it does seem pretty consistent.
So all of that combined explanation can definitely be used.
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Acausality (Types 1 & 4; Wields the Golden Weapons, which have been shown to be immune to any changes in time, with the wielders being unaffected as well. Was born in the First Realm, therefore being born before and thus being immune to The Cloud Kingdom, which can write the fate of people. Should be immune to the Cloud Kingdom as an Oni)
I actually don't think I have a problem with FSM having both types of Acausality, but shouldn't this include the scans of him having created the universe?
(Or actually, probably not Type 4 due to the time just not being "named" thing.)
Type 1 is fine though.
I actually don't think I have a problem with FSM having both types of Acausality, but shouldn't this include the scans of him having created the universe?
(Or actually, probably not Type 4 due to the time just not being "named" thing.)
Type 1 is fine though.
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We don't know how high that electricity was that was needed to restart the battery, and a normal human can survive a large voltage equal to a lightning (though it was sin water, but from the scene it appears that was not a factor), so this can deifintly be used as supporting evidence but not a main one.
Sure stated she "may be immune"
We see both of them injured and have no idea if it's due to their being resistant or not. Also, the clip only shows the clothes burning, and I don't think I need to mention why his clothes would be resistant to fire.
Do we have any proof that it "always" does this?
You mean a clash between power? We don't normally treat people exchanging punches or abilities as "resistance" when they are actively blocking it.
Again, a common AoE property.
You seriously don't think a guy that attacks with a flashing bright light has some way to counter it?
Again, this is a common AoE attack, we don't treat them as resistance, since we can expect them to be able to choose who they can harm.
Don't see what this is supposed to prove.
So yeah, I don't see anything that is screaming "all elemental power users are resistant towards their element," But yeah, this is a lot better than before.
Also, I do find it funny how the anti-feats we were told about was not shown, any specific reason?
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Scaling Kalmaar to Wojira is illogical when she beats people who were comparable to him. Its def some pain manip involved there
Kai is not injured at all, he was litterally annoyed by her fighting skills
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Are we serious? This is never shown to be an "activation based" kind of ability and implied to be part of the Element by the other scan
You can clearly see their destruction clash spread around them, and then Garmadon proceed to take other blasts anyways
How? I don't see him create a wall of Fire on himself and he was explictly targetting the Stone Warriors.
He has shown none. Baseless claim
All EMs already has resistance to Dark Matter. Overlord is included in the lot and thus he should be resistant anyways
That they resist the abilities of Darkness when they possessed the Element?
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The average human dies to 100-250 volts. A lightning bolt has 300 000 000 Volts. Surviving Lightning for a normal human is just extreme luck
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