Gonna put the BFR on the backburner for a bit- anyways
Sure, she can put him down with that, but it's not like he can't just outhax first with a ridiculously wider range and potency, or just dodge with Dimensional Travel, or absorb the blast itself.
The Omnitrix (Omniverse's) has Resistance against Mana and Magic, which among all its effects and powers, include Power Modification and Nullification.
She could also just split him open from the inside with a gap with no way for Ben to counter at all and just kill him with Death Manip. Danmaku isnt her only opener
Sure. We could go with that. I (currently) dont see anything saying it's connected to her conceptual manip, but if i find out anything otherwise, ill update
cuz his profile is a bit outdatedbcs nobody cares tho, here is the scan he sends all bens to their own universes
the argument was based on him doing this during timestop
Ben's the one performed the feat.
Ben's speed is MFTL+, the Omnitrix is a complete different story.
its via amps das why
Try again.
So, in that case
From what i see, Ben only has Low-Godly regen. Yukari can negate regen up to Mid-Godly. The Death manipulation is also under her concept hax too
why the hell are you talking this way
Wdym?why the hell are you talking this way
i don't get the part why you think failsafe won't be activated, like its in his profile that failsafe prevents ben from dying, failsafe gets activated before the attack happens or reachs to ben as we seen in the scan and the omnitrix is giving the best alien for the situation ben in, clockwork is the only alien who can one shot yukari, since yukari have Mid-godly regen there isn't any alien to bypass that regen so high, Feedback could absorb the protectiles but after that? he won't be able to do anything to yukari so he is useless here also ben is blooddusted which brings more reasons to choose clockwork because him being out of character
Good thing they DIDN'T say that and they said it'd be activated against many of her attacks but clockwork wouldn't be the first choice against stuff like Danmaku and then by that point Yukari -WILL- switch up her strategy and enact in using more deadly moves that fall under her CM1 like the sort of which they named in their post.
The Omnitrix AI, or whatever you wanna call it, gives Ben the right alien based on the situation, even when it's a space temporal paradox that didn't happen at all. Showed when it was able to give the right alien to Kid Ben in Teen Ben's body, knowing what happened in the paradoxical past before even Future character knew it, showing how advanced and precise his Info Analysis is.
Once again, The Omnitrix chooses over Ben and being Out of Character means he'll do whatever it takes to win, whatever is possible for him, he'll do it as first move. And even if don't, he'll get Clockwork thanks to the watch.
On what ground??? Lmao?
On everyone else arguments?
I didn't say Ben would be hesitant to use Clockwork, I said he has other options he could use before Clockwork.
I'm sorry but where is that written exactly? I can't see those on the profiles.
sorry i forgot to reply, i don't have knowledge on what is omnitrix giving the alien via what it could be info analysis, precog, analytical prediction etc... the thing i don't know if there is an approved method that omnitrix giving the alien based on what
something like that but idk if this is confirmed, my first reply kinda involving this too
i mean yeah it even transformed ben into ghostfreak and forced him to instictive reaction before vilgax can end him
i don't? we can discuss about the things omnitrix could give via failsafe if you have any opinion on an alien can survive from yogiri's attacks tell me, i have bringed clockwork because ben would transform into it due to being out of character rn or via failsafe
"From what I understood, failsafe won't be able to activate against attacks like CM1 erasure" i've meant this,
she wont be able to react when ben transforms into clockwork because this will get done by failsafe (imme speed amps) and yes it will be activated when yukari uses it just like ben have said here, and clockworks uses timestop before the things hit him its quicker via to being thought based
There is a difference between "Turn Ben intangible in order to avoid this attack" and "Turn Ben into Clockwork in order to have him BFR Yukari before she can activate her ability", no?
Actually, yeah. Yukari trying to use her CM1 erasure is no different than Yogiri trying to tell Ben die in this case. "The failsafe will turn Ben into whatever Alien necessary to survive a situation that puts his life in danger" It says. If there is no alien that can survive the upcoming attack, then what can it do?
yeah there is a difference but my argument was not based on the "intangibility ability" and yes turns ben into clockwork and forces him to do funni ts not BFR firstly
"just gave me the alien i needed" it doesn't only refers to alien necessary to survive a situation its also about the countering the upcoming attack like feedback isn't a type of alien who would survive from 25D explosion without absorping it just like clockwork it's depends on their ability clockwork activates timestop and then ben uses BFR literally how omnitrix gave feedback ben to absorb it not directly tanking it
yeah as i have explained in my respond above this msg, omnitrix doesn't gives an alien to directly tank it, it gives the alien bens needed, so that would be clockwork in the best solutions because feedback will die to CM1 destruction even if he doesn't die he does not have anything to bypass mid-godly which falls under he is not the alien ben needed for the situation he needs to avoid
that is classic omnitrix and that failsafe was based on kevin trying to remove the omnitrix meanwhile yukari is trying to kill ben here, omnitrix releases a green beam when someone trys to take it off forcefully if someone is trying to kill or hurt ben really bad it would transform him to any alien he needed as i have given in the scan
i mean yeah immeresuable speed amps failsafe would transform him the alien he needed not just to survive, doesn't yukari have wincons here still? or am i missing
What "FRA", exactly? Even if Ben doesn't resist her conceptual junk and all, Ben can just dodge or escape from every blast with that ability, and her Death Manip isn't doing nothing to his Aliens with Immo type 7.
ya i just dont buy that at all. read that, think topaz and dibual have stronger agurements.
It's not an argument, it's literally what the show itself has said, and what the wiki stated as Bloodlust.
I'm sorry but where does it say that immortality type 7 makes you immune to death hax? I think you're mixing it up with type 5 (coincidentally, Yukari can negate type 5).
No. In this situation where failsafe can, without exception, foresee any attack and have Ben act first, Yukari's wincons don't matter. As someone said before, Ben would always land his wincon first.
I was thinking a wincon that could seal ben, Yukarı can't kill him that's before failsafe activates yeah but it's not like ben is completely ınvincible if she doesn't have any wincon i agree with this besides omnitrix getting malafunctioned in the show so many times this still a valid thing it could get malafunctioned and fail to save ben this is a very low chance to happen but it's not %0 ben is winning here with %90-95 chance here
