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The Bay harbor butcher vs The Hunter

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dexter has his m99 and knives
Cary has his bow and arrow and his hunting knife
Fight starts 20 meters from each other and out of line in sight
Fight takes place in the woods Cary hunts in
 
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Dexter (Verse) Dexter Morgan
You (Verse) Cary Conrad
Rules:
dexter has his m99 and knives
Cary has his bow and arrow and his hunting knife
Fight starts 20 meters from each other and out of line in sight
Fight takes place in the woods Cary hunts in
I’m voting Cary here he has a better overall speed then Dexter has better endurance and stamina and has a overall better weapons skills and combat skills I feel like Cary will either shot Dexter will his bow stab him or disarm him and outskill him I bump Cary
 
Dexter has dealt with people trying to kill him in the middle of the forest while leaving a trail of blood. While its true that Cary has the speed advantage and is an experienced hunter, Dex is enough Stealthy to not be noticed for quite some time. Once he manages to go into close quarters, its pretty much finished for Cary since Dexter is much more skilled, stronger and has his m99 to knock him out. Not only that but does he also have the ap advantage since he scales to 3000 J (Via skull crushing) while Cary is only 495 J. But that still if he manages to stay hidden for some time

I'll wait for more opinion before voting
 
Dexter has dealt with people trying to kill him in the middle of the forest while leaving a trail of blood. While its true that Cary has the speed advantage and is an experienced hunter, Dex is enough Stealthy to not be noticed for quite some time. Once he manages to go into close quarters, its pretty much finished for Cary since Dexter is much more skilled, stronger and has his m99 to knock him out. Not only that but does he also have the ap advantage since he scales to 3000 J (Via skull crushing) while Cary is only 495 J. But that still if he manages to stay hidden for some time

I'll wait for more opinion before voting
Dexters 3000 joules feat is one with weaponary el its not his baseline strength 2 we do not know how many hits it took to crush 3. Its a offscreen feat and Dexter isn’t more skilled in combat then Cary nor is he much stronger then him either Dexter only really has a slight lifting advantage as he’s class one and in Cary’s profile he’s atleast peak human
 
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Dexter has dealt with people trying to kill him in the middle of the forest while leaving a trail of blood. While its true that Cary has the speed advantage and is an experienced hunter, Dex is enough Stealthy to not be noticed for quite some time. Once he manages to go into close quarters, its pretty much finished for Cary since Dexter is much more skilled, stronger and has his m99 to knock him out. Not only that but does he also have the ap advantage since he scales to 3000 J (Via skull crushing) while Cary is only 495 J. But that still if he manages to stay hidden for some time

I'll wait for more opinion before voting
I disagree on skill Cary is a way better fighter then Dexter dexters combat is not as good as everyone hypes it up to be i do jiujitsu and martial arts and i can say Cary shows way more techniques and skills then dexter
 
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I disagree on skill Cary is a way better fighter then Dexter dexters combat is not as good as everyone hypes it up to be i do jiujitsu and martial arts and i can say Cary shows way more techniques and skills then dexter
Has Cary beaten a former army captain and a former Spec Ops in hand to hand? Dexter has done both, the former he did while one of his hands was broken. He has also won against armed opponents, opponents who got the drop on him, and opponents who outnumbered him. Dexter has higher LS as well.
 
Has Cary beaten a former army captain and a former Spec Ops in hand to hand? Dexter has done both, the former he did while one of his hands was broken. He has also won against armed opponents, opponents who got the drop on him, and opponents who outnumbered him. Dexter has higher LS as well.
More feats doesn’t= better the skinner is legit avg human level and featless James couldn’t even throw a proper punch and shows no good techniques Cary does actual jiujitsu moves including disarms from other martial arts
 
Has Cary beaten a former army captain and a former Spec Ops in hand to hand? Dexter has done both, the former he did while one of his hands was broken. He has also won against armed opponents, opponents who got the drop on him, and opponents who outnumbered him. Dexter has higher LS as well.
The skinner is fodder with no feats James can’t throw a proper jab and every other character in the show besides Brian has no combat feats
 
I disagree, i think the skill feats of dexter are more impressive as well. leaning towards dexter atm.
I disagree dexter rarely shows any actual martial arts moves he only does throwing and he did it one time Cary demonstrated mutiple different jiujitsu moves from back taking leg locking back mounting body locking and rear naked chokes also with disarming techniques
 
What the actors do on screen aren't always necessarily equal to what the characters should be capable of. Just because Skinner and Doakes haven't shown us realistic martial arts feats doesn't mean they don't have them. How do you think they achieved their ranks in their respective militaries?
 
What cary does is only disarm Joe (At best Above Average) from his hammer and restrain him. Dexter has easily defeated a special forces soldier even while handcuffed and with a leg injury, and defeated the skinner, a former soldier with a broken hand. Not only that but is he trained in Advanced Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. Saying Cary is more skilled than Dexter is actually crazy.
I disagree dexter rarely shows any actual martial arts moves he only does throwing and he did it one time Cary demonstrated mutiple different jiujitsu moves from back taking leg locking back mounting body locking and rear naked chokes also with disarming techniques
Have you watched the show? Cary only fought once, while we consistently see Dexter getting the better of trained police officers, soldiers, and being compared to a pro by others
The skinner is fodder with no feats James can’t throw a proper jab and every other character in the show besides Brian has no combat feats
Doakes can throw a proper jab, he is just not on Dexter's level and even then I still think that even Doakes is also more skilled than Cary.
Dexters 3000 joules feat is one with weaponary el its not his baseline strength 2 we do not know how many hits it took to crush 3. Its a offscreen feat and Dexter isn’t more skilled in combat then Cary nor is he much stronger then him either Dexter only really has a slight lifting advantage as he’s class one and in Cary’s profile he’s atleast peak human
We did see it and he did with one hit. Even though he used a fire extenguisher, Dexter physically scales to people who survived hits from him while wielding a weapon. Weird way to scale, I know, but its still 3000-3900 Joules which is 6-7.8x more than Cary. That's almost One Shot for Dexter.

At least Peak Human is an exageration, he should be "At least Athletic Human" from overpowering Joe. Even assuming he is Peak Human, he would scale to 227 Kg while Dex scales to 566 Kg, which is 2.49x advantage for Dex and that is pretty huge.
 
What cary does is only disarm Joe (At best Above Average) from his hammer and restrain him. Dexter has easily defeated a special forces soldier even while handcuffed and with a leg injury, and defeated the skinner, a former soldier with a broken hand. Not only that but is he trained in Advanced Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. Saying Cary is more skilled than Dexter is actually crazy.

Have you watched the show? Cary only fought once, while we consistently see Dexter getting the better of trained police officers, soldiers, and being compared to a pro by others

Doakes can throw a proper jab, he is just not on Dexter's level and even then I still think that even Doakes is also more skilled than Cary.

We did see it and he did with one hit. Even though he used a fire extenguisher, Dexter physically scales to people who survived hits from him while wielding a weapon. Weird way to scale, I know, but its still 3000-3900 Joules which is 6-7.8x more than Cary. That's almost One Shot for Dexter.

At least Peak Human is an exageration, he should be "At least Athletic Human" from overpowering Joe. Even assuming he is Peak Human, he would scale to 227 Kg while Dex scales to 566 Kg, which is 2.49x advantage for Dex and that is pretty huge.
 
One it was never even stated he took judo idk why people ever said that it was only jiujitsu 2 dexters jiujitsu is actually atrocious he shows no proper techniques at all he does nothing that is taught Cary has done actually jiujitsu moves dexter hasn’t doakes is complete trash at fighting he can’t even throw a proper punch same with skinner Cary has done these list of moves back taking jiujitsu leg locking jiujitsu back mounting and body trinagle jiujitsu hammer lock jiujitsu and judo rear naked chokes jiujitsu Cary slams in combat
 
I legit take jiujitsu dexters moves suck and resemble nothing that is taught and it was never stated he took judo that’s such a headcannon
 
all we saw was a overhead shot of him hitting the guy that doesn’t mean he broke it in one hit and can we take dexters statement as reliable or true and the people who harmed him with items didn’t use the same weapon Dexter used
 
Yes I rewatched the show mutiple times and he’s combat is overrated he shows rarely any actual jiujitsu moves and he never took judo snd no doakes is not a better fighter lol he can barley throw a proper jab i can find the clip and send it here or i can send it on my discord jagger1136
 
One it was never even stated he took judo idk why people ever said that it was only jiujitsu 2 dexters jiujitsu is actually atrocious he shows no proper techniques at all he does nothing that is taught Cary has done actually jiujitsu moves dexter hasn’t doakes is complete trash at fighting he can’t even throw a proper punch same with skinner Cary has done these list of moves back taking jiujitsu leg locking jiujitsu back mounting and body trinagle jiujitsu hammer lock jiujitsu and judo rear naked chokes jiujitsu Cary slams in combat
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That's just crazy to say. Its like you watched the show with your eyes closed🥀🥀
  • Dex beats a former special ops (1x12) while handcuffed and with hancuffs (2x9) (He actually can throw a jab if you didn't see but at that time he didn't even know Dex was that good in combat im s1. And Soldiers of his qualiber tends to put emphasis in their hand-to-hand combat)
  • Dex beats the skinner, who was armed, with a broken arm (3x12) (Again, he isn't "atrocious" and is a former soldier which explain why this is so impressive)
  • Dex easily beats Zoe Krugger, a trained and skilled police officer in Season 4
  • Constantly stated to be a pro or highly skilled in combat and has training im advanced Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. He would've spent an important part of his youth trying to be skilled and while being traines by Harry
Compared to Cary who
  • Disarmed Joe who was armed with a hammer and restrained him (keep in mind he has no training)
  • Cary might be skilled in Krav Maga
 
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That's just crazy to say. Its like you watched the show with your eyes closed🥀🥀
  • Dex beats a former special ops (1x12) while handcuffed and with hancuffs (2x9) (He actually can throw a jab if you didn't see but at that time he didn't even know Dex was that good in combat im s1. And Soldiers of his qualiber tends to put emphasis in their hand-to-hand combat)
  • Dex beats the skinner, who was armed, with a broken arm (3x12) (Again, he isn't "atrocious" and is a former soldier which explain why this is so impressive)
  • Dex easily beats Zoe Krugger, a trained and skilled police officer in Season 4
  • Constantly stated to be a pro or highly skilled in combat and has training im advanced Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. He would've spent an important part of his youth trying to be skilled and while being traines by Harry
Compared to Cary who
  • Disarmed Joe who was armed with a hammer and restrained him (keep in mind he has no training)
  • Cary might be skilled in Krav Maga
 
It was stated legit one time he took jiujitsu and nothing else my discord is jagger1136 and we can argue on there
 
Pls tell me you know noting of Martial arts without telling me you know nothing about martial arts
 
Why argue on discord while there is a thread talking about this? Bro this isn't the tiktok comments
Because I can actually send photos and videos of the moves Cary’s doing and why Dexter and doakes don’t have as great combat as you think you + it takes longer to type and reply on here
 
People can disagree, skill is pretty damn subjective in this case and the site doesnt have really hard and fast guidelines on it.
 
I dont want to discuss things on discord. I am on a fourm for a reason. I am going to vote Dexter FRA.
Why not I actually want to show you all the martial arts moves Cary did cause there more impressive then you think but ale whatever
 
Yeah I quite literally remember all the feats you stated and like none of that was jiujitsu
 
Pls tell me you know noting of Martial arts without telling me you know nothing about martial arts
Cary literaly is featless compared to Dexter. He fought once in You while Dex fights at least twice every seasons.

Also, considering the situation of this fight, it literaly goes to Dexter. He is way more stealthier, skilled, stronger and with m99, Cary has basically no chance. Dex has already dealt with this kinds of things and not only to mentionn his enhanced awereness
 
People can disagree, skill is pretty damn subjective in this case and the site doesnt have really hard and fast guidelines on it.
I just want to show my opinion as a actual martial artist on what type of moves each character does and in my opinion Cary shows more martial arts moves
 
Cary literaly is featless compared to Dexter. He fought once in You while Dex fights at least twice every seasons.

Also, considering the situation of this fight, it literaly goes to Dexter. He is way more stealthier, skilled, stronger and with m99, Cary has basically no chance. Dex has already dealt with this kinds of things and not only to mentionn his enhanced awereness
More doesn’t = better and I already explained all the martial arts moves Cary did which is above dexters actual jiujitsu moves beats random moves
 
More doesn’t = better and I already explained all the martial arts moves Cary did which is above dexters actual jiujitsu moves beats random moves
More does = better. Like i've said, Cary only ever did in YOU is disarm and restrain Joe who is barely above average in combat and maybe have Krav Maga training. Dexter has fought with more skilled fighters than Cary did
 
Why not I actually want to show you all the martial arts moves Cary did cause there more impressive then you think but ale whatever

Cary literaly is featless compared to Dexter. He fought once in You while Dex fights at least twice every seasons.

Also, considering the situation of this fight, it literaly goes to Dexter. He is way more stealthier, skilled, stronger and with m99, Cary has basically no chance. Dex has already dealt with this kinds of things and not only to mentionn his enhanced awereness
Question when was it ever stated Dexter did judo they never said that and colledge jiujitsu has often been criticized
 
More does = better. Like i've said, Cary only ever did in YOU is disarm and restrain Joe who is barely above average in combat and maybe have Krav Maga training. Dexter has fought with more skilled fighters than Cary did
And that’s just not true like I stated mutiple times he did way more moves then that like body locks hammer locks rear naked chokes ankle locking back. Taking back mounting body tringale and ext all from jiujitsu the hammer disarm is legit a strip disarm from Krav Maga or eskrima or a hammer lock which is taught to police
 
More does = better. Like i've said, Cary only ever did in YOU is disarm and restrain Joe who is barely above average in combat and maybe have Krav Maga training. Dexter has fought with more skilled fighters than Cary did
Respectfully and I’m not trying to argue it seems hostile rn I’m trying to be nice so mb if I came off the wrong way but Cary did way more moves then that and I said this mutiple times so idk why your avoiding that
 
Question when was it ever stated Dexter did judo they never said that and colledge jiujitsu has often been criticized

Why bring up a youtube video for an argument? and that isn't "colledge jiujitsu" its Advanced Jiu-Jitsu. I don't remember when it was stated that tho
And that’s just not true like I stated mutiple times he did way more moves then that like body locks hammer locks rear naked chokes ankle locking back. Taking back mounting body tringale and ext all from jiujitsu the hammer disarm is legit a strip disarm from Krav Maga or eskrima or a hammer lock which is taught to police
Yeah he did that on a guy who barely is skilled in combat. While Dexter constantly fight way more skilled fighter than Cary ever did
Yes I rewatched the show mutiple times and he’s combat is overrated he shows rarely any actual jiujitsu moves and he never took judo snd no doakes is not a better fighter lol he can barley throw a proper jab i can find the clip and send it here or i can send it on my discord jagger1136
Doakes is a special forces soldier and he is clearly shown to be skilled, at least like in boxing, he just wasn't on dexter's level.
Because I can actually send photos and videos of the moves Cary’s doing and why Dexter and doakes don’t have as great combat as you think you + it takes longer to type and reply on here
You know you can send videos and photos here right? And this is a thread to literaly talk about the fight
all we saw was a overhead shot of him hitting the guy that doesn’t mean he broke it in one hit and can we take dexters statement as reliable or true and the people who harmed him with items didn’t use the same weapon Dexter used
But he literaly did hit it in one shot? you are literaly talking about it. It is reliable because we clearly saw it. And doesn't really matter if Dexter used another weapon, he still hit people with weapons that he can use to deal damages that high.
 
Why bring up a youtube video for an argument? and that isn't "colledge jiujitsu" its Advanced Jiu-Jitsu. I don't remember when it was stated that tho

Yeah he did that on a guy who barely is skilled in combat. While Dexter constantly fight way more skilled fighter than Cary ever did

Doakes is a special forces soldier and he is clearly shown to be skilled, at least like in boxing, he just wasn't on dexter's level.

You know you can send videos and photos here right? And this is a thread to literaly talk about the fight

But he literaly did hit it in one shot? you are literaly talking about it. It is reliable because we clearly saw it. And doesn't really matter if Dexter used another weapon, he still hit people with weapons that he can use to deal damages that high.
 
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