Uta vs Kenjaku (4-1-0)

[Johner2133451]

Uta (One Piece)

Uta is a world-famous singer, or "diva" and the adopted daughter of Shanks and acted as the musician of his crew before he abandoned her on the island of Elegia with her foster father, Gordon who supported her dream of starting a "New Era" and later her desire to achieve this dream through a...

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Kenjaku

Kenjaku (羂けん索じゃく, Kenjaku?) is one of the primary antagonists of the Jujutsu Kaisen series. He is an ancient sorcerer who has goals against the Jujutsu High and Tengen, using curses to complete his plan. Tier: At least 7-C, far higher with Maximum Uzumaki Name: Kenjaku, Noritoshi Kamo, Kaori...

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Uta: @That_moron2, @Arkansalter2, @Johner2133451, @ReallySwagGuy

Kenjaku: @Duedate8898

Incon:

 

[That_moron2]

Uta world gg

 

[Johner2133451]

Uta world gg

You want to cast your vote?

 

[That_moron2]

You want to cast your vote?

Yeah

 

[Arkansalter2]

Kenjaku does not resist sleep hax so Uta sings and GGs.

 

[Johner2133451]

Kenjaku does not resist sleep hax so Uta sings and GGs.

Voting for Uta?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Voting for Uta?

Yep

 

[Duedate8898]

Actually, Sorcerer's in JJK are able to reinforce their ears in order to prevent undergoing the effects of Cursed Speech, a power which works through having the user hear the commands given. So while Kenjaku doesn't have resistance to sleep manipulation he should be able to prevent himself from hearing her song. That said, due to SBA, they actually start quite far apart which is more to Kenjaku's advantage as he has many ways to attack and detect from that expanded range and is likely to engage with ambush tactics and him summoning cursed spirits. Even if knocked asleep, his cursed spirits can act independently of him and attack her.

So I'm leaning towards Kenjaku for this one.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Actually, Sorcerer's in JJK are able to reinforce their ears in order to prevent undergoing the effects of Cursed Speech

Have they been shown to be able to do that?
How fast does it act?
Would he even know to use it before Uta starts singing?

 

[Duedate8898]

Have they been shown to be able to do that?

No, we just given a reliable statement of how you're supposed to defend yourself against cursed speech.

How fast does it act?

As quick as covering your ears with your hands I imagine.

Would he even know to use it before Uta starts singing?

Unlikely, as he has no knowledge of how she works, I just brought it up since he does have a means to defend against her song.

That said, my entire argument really centers on them starting too far for Uta to even sing since I don't know if in the real world her voice has that far a range without equipment

 

[Arkansalter2]

No, we just given a reliable statement of how you're supposed to defend yourself against cursed speech.

That wouldn't really be 100% plausible then.

Unlikely, as he has no knowledge of how she works, I just brought it up since he does have a means to defend against her song.

Yeah but.. it wouldn't really be plausible.

my entire argument really centers on them starting too far for Uta to even sing

Kilometers range. They're cooked to be fair as soon as Uta starts singing.

 

[That_moron2]

Kilometers range

That’s with powers in Uta World

 

[Johner2133451]

Actually, Sorcerer's in JJK are able to reinforce their ears in order to prevent undergoing the effects of Cursed Speech, a power which works through having the user hear the commands given. So while Kenjaku doesn't have resistance to sleep manipulation he should be able to prevent himself from hearing her song. That said, due to SBA, they actually start quite far apart which is more to Kenjaku's advantage as he has many ways to attack and detect from that expanded range and is likely to engage with ambush tactics and him summoning cursed spirits. Even if knocked asleep, his cursed spirits can act independently of him and attack her.

So I'm leaning towards Kenjaku for this one.

You voting for Kenjaku?

 

[Duedate8898]

Yes

 

[Johner2133451]

This fight seems pretty close since Kenjaku has the range advantage to avoid the initial singing range. But I still believe he would be under it as he has no prior knowledge

 

[Johner2133451]

I'll vote Uta for now

 

[Apotheosis69]

this might be a stupid ass question, and I do not give any offense? But can the OP vote themselves?

 

[That_moron2]

But can the OP vote themselves?

Yeah

 

[Apotheosis69]

I see, thank you.

But for the match itself… is a Complete Mismatch.

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Without Prior Knowledge, Kenjaku has NO way of getting past her Singing which gets him into her world. To which he is absolutely Stomped.

If Kenjaku has Prior Knowledge, and covers his ears with Cursed Energy. Uta is a completely regular human and Kenjaku can do Anything to her

 

[Johner2133451]

I see, thank you.

But for the match itself… is a Complete Mismatch.

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Without Prior Knowledge, Kenjaku has NO way of getting past her Singing which gets him into her world. To which he is absolutely Stomped.

If Kenjaku has Prior Knowledge, and covers his ears with Cursed Energy. Uta is a completely regular human and Kenjaku can do Anything to her

You can check Due's argument of kenjaku winning despite no prior knowledge

 

[Johner2133451]

bump

 

[ExSENNA]

Kenjaku doesn't have kilometers of attacking range, he only has some barriers of that size and they're iirc irrelevant to this match

 

[Johner2133451]

Kenjaku doesn't have kilometers of attacking range, he only has some barriers of that size and they're iirc irrelevant to this match

You cast your vote?

 

[ExSENNA]

You cast your vote?

No. I think this is a stomp/mismatch.

We never see anyone defending themselves from cursed speech that way. Even Geto, a highly skilled sorcerer with prior knowledge on cursed speech, got affected by it. Well this happened in JJK0 but I'll maintain the agenda

 

[Johner2133451]

No. I think this is a stomp/mismatch.

We never see anyone defending themselves from cursed speech that way. Even Geto, a highly skilled sorcerer with prior knowledge on cursed speech, got affected by it. Well this happened in JJK0 but I'll maintain the agenda

Well Uta only has her km range in her own world, not real one

 

[Apotheosis69]

You can check Due's argument of kenjaku winning despite no prior knowledge

To which I disagree with

 

[ReallySwagGuy]

Uta = sleep manipulation
Kenjaku = no resistance to sleep manipulation
Uta + Uta’s world = gg

My vote = Uta

 

[GodEarh206]

Does this is Mismatch?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Does this is Mismatch?

Pretty much.

Hearing is super natural in general, the moment Kenjaku hears Uta sing… at all even a single note. He is screwed.

If Kenjaku has Prior Knowledge, blocks his ears and hearing with Cursed Energy. Uta is a complete human

 

[Arkenis]

How is this not a stomp for Uta?

 

[Apotheosis69]

In this case it is an Absolute stomp for Uta