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We can discuss it, but yeah we should try focusing on mainstream characters unless the random characters are connected to more notable people
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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How many layers do you think this will be going for?
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For the best telepaths? Probably somewhere between 2 and 10. Comic inconsistencies don't make it easier.
The people with the most layers will include those like Xavier and Doctor Strange.
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considering there are a lot of mutants with mind hax will the layers also follow the mutant levels like an omega mutant with 10 layers while Alphas only get 8?
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If there are showings to support it.
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True, but all the comic inconsistency makes layering a massive pain.
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Layering abilities is impossible for comics, one rime they can tank an ability, but then get affected by something or someone less powerful, or even by the same ability.
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yea i know
but just imagine
someone like Thor would be hax layered so crazily
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Layering is extremely inconsistent by comic standards.
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By that logic, indexing comic characters is impossible too. Something that we have proven not to be, it's just difficult to find a common ground. We have rules, so just apply those same rules into layers. We analyse the character's background and justification and see if layers should be accepted or not.
An example is Moon Knight's mental resistance: his mind was colonized and altered by Khonshu, someone who's power is implied to be above Strange, and Strange himself has empowered MK's mind further, with him saying later that he cannot mind control him. Those two justifications are coherent and work well together, so he has a case to have mental resistance with layers above Strange.
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How exactly is the “10 issues” minimum treated for characters who are possessed by another or something like that, e.g. Venom?
Like, say the host appears in 10 issues themself, including while possessed, but, say, 5 non-possessed where they’re entirely un-notable as a character powerscaling wise, but they are notable power-scaling wise and sort of the main enemy for the arc when possessed in, say, 5 issues? Can I then make a profile for them?
Like, say the host appears in 10 issues themself, including while possessed, but, say, 5 non-possessed where they’re entirely un-notable as a character powerscaling wise, but they are notable power-scaling wise and sort of the main enemy for the arc when possessed in, say, 5 issues? Can I then make a profile for them?
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They need to possess the powers for long enough to reliably scale them, but I am not certain where exactly we should draw the line for this specific type of situation. I am open for staff input. 
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Admittedly, I know next to nothing about calcs and scaling, but I imagine if those five issues provide enough to work with, then we could MAYBE justify it? Though even then, it'd probably depend on what the specifics are (i.e. which symbiote are we using for this).They need to possess the powers for long enough to reliably scale them, but am not certain where exactly we should draw the line for this specific type of situation. I am open for staff input.
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If it helps, they fight the exact same person(Daredevil) like 3 times, win by far each time, and rip off the arm of someone who fought him three times in that same run(and they have the same powers for the entire ~5 issues they are possessed)They need to possess the powers for long enough to reliably scale them, but am not certain where exactly we should draw the line for this specific type of situation. I am open for staff input.
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[Marvel Comics] Ending the Spider Downplay+stuff
New Profile for Jessica Drew https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Suigetsuhyugs/Sandbox?oldid=8999520 Changes Starting with her summary section that is now more detailed and updated Mostly add scans and references A few new abilities I found Adaptation Hacking with spy gear Stealth mastery...
Minor Gorgon Addition
Afterimage Creation (Can create afterimages all around himself) Wolverine #26 2003 Agree:Neutral:Disagree:
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Batman vs Captain America | "I can do this all night"
Batman vs Captain America SBA, Equalized Speed. Win by any means. Both as 8-C. The Living Legend: The Dark Knight: Incon:
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/iron-man-vs-grand-priest-o-0-0-0.179403/
Iron Man takes on against the greatest fighter in Dragon Ball history. Can Iron Man pull it off?
Iron Man takes on against the greatest fighter in Dragon Ball history. Can Iron Man pull it off?
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Nope since it's related to magic, which is tier 1 in nature.
GeneralSol16
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Sure magic blast are Tier 1 Hax, but how does Hulk work? Like, is not like he could shoot kt or something, is his pure existence Tier 1? And how does Thor work too? Are any attacks of him Tier 1?
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No, they're not
GeneralSol16
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Then? That's a headache for matches.
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Soooo... Basically, he can use gamma, but what does it mean exactly for the matches? I searched, but I don't think we have a section for it on the Magic page.
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Gamma is both science and magic; the radiation poisoning and all the normal stuff can be easily resisted, absorbed, nullified, copied, ecc., the magical part (big green skin, regeneration, contagious D.I.D.) derives from 1-A magic concepts and cannot as easily be copied or resisted
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Marvel Comics: Graviton Rework
Here. Basically I remade the page from scratch, so I think next to nothing from the current page remains, except a few scans I reused in different places. So yeah... how's your day going?
Excellence616
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Hulk passively gives out gamma energy during battle which increases when enraged and even as Banner also but at lowest level. So his Gamma hax is passive
Nope. It is hax so it can't be limited.
There are two ways to it.
1. The Hax which is Tier 1 regardless of tier that is why even 5-B Cho has Tier 1 Gamma Hax
2. As an energy which grows along side his strength.
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So, it wouldn’t be an instant stomp if I took Hulk as… Low 1-C, for example, and put him against another Low 1-C?
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It would.
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MrKerf
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Ah. T_T
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Probably no
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Think of characters like the Thing, he is just a bunch of rocks and fights on equal terms with gamma monsters, Hulk's CM lets him use gamma (a concept), absorb conceptual energies, punch conceptual beings, ecc. Doesn't mean he automatically wins every fight or controls concepts
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This is about right, though I will add that Gamma is also part magic which at its core works by altering the underlying foundation of the universe to do what the user wants.
Though in Hulk's case that just means making his attacks hit harder and whatnot.
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It lets Gamma people become what they unconsciously desire, it lets them express their true self, that is how gamma works in fact
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