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Yoriichi Tsugikuni vs Boboiboy! Round 1 Match 1 of a 7-A Tiersetter Tournament!

Okay so, first thing's first:

BoBoiBoy doesn't have resistance to Yoriichi's passive Fear Manipulation & Paralysis Inducement, so as soon as BoBoiBoy sees Yoriichi it's game over.

I'd like to see what BoBoiBoy's starting moves are from his supporters before moving forward. I will say that Yoriichi massively out-skills just off of a glance at BoBoiBoy's profile.
 
Resisting Battle Spirit by being stronger doesn't work cross verse like that. It's not a weakness Demon Slayer has as of now.
This isn't a passive or consistent thing
It is
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Yoriichi also had the same aura.
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Resisting Battle Spirit by being stronger doesn't work cross verse like that. It's not a weakness Demon Slayer has as of now.

It is
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Yoriichi also had the same aura.
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I don't think we gotta go get panels where this isn't happening to everyone around. And this type of aura, although cool, it's usually a demonstration of power that people can get over through calming themselves as Muichiro did.
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I don't think we gotta go get panels where this isn't happening to everyone around. And this type of aura, although cool, it's usually a demonstration of power that people can get over through calming themselves as Muichiro did.
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The average person doesn't have resistance to Fear Manipulation. They can't "get over" getting Fear Haxed by Battle Spirit unless they have Supernatural Willpower to power through, Empathic Manipulation to change their emotional state, or outright resist the Fear Manipulation itself, or have some other way to circumvent it. Muichiro already had the ability to resist Fear Manipulation & Paralysis Inducement, so when the aura Kokushibo displayed an Enhanced version of the same ability, Muichiro was able to "calm himself" because he could previously resist Fear Hax. BoBoiBoy doesn't have the resistance to Fear Manipulation, nor does he have access to any ability which would allow him to control his emotions when stricken with fear. He's getting fear haxed.

Even if Battle Spirit isn't active 24/7, it pretty quickly becomes active whenever a demon slayer or demon starts fighting. Hantengu fear haxed Tanjiro off of looking at him and Tanjiro recovered BECAUSE he had resistance to Fear Manipulation, Daki initially fear haxed Tanjiro, etc.
Depends. How does this fear and paralysis has work?
Yoriichi walks up to BoBoiBoy and scares him because of Battle Spirit Fear Manipulation, which causes his body to stop moving completely and then they stay like that for 24 hours and Yoriichi wins because of SBA.
Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions.
Yes, Yoriichi can stand still for 24 hours. He held the corpses of his wife and child for 10 days straight and massively upscales from his child self who can run for a day straight.
 
The average person doesn't have resistance to Fear Manipulation. They can't "get over" getting Fear Haxed by Battle Spirit unless they have Supernatural Willpower to power through, Empathic Manipulation to change their emotional state, or outright resist the Fear Manipulation itself, or have some other way to circumvent it. Muichiro already had the ability to resist Fear Manipulation & Paralysis Inducement, so when the aura Kokushibo displayed an Enhanced version of the same ability, Muichiro was able to "calm himself" because he could previously resist Fear Hax. BoBoiBoy doesn't have the resistance to Fear Manipulation, nor does he have access to any ability which would allow him to control his emotions when stricken with fear. He's getting fear haxed.

Even if Battle Spirit isn't active 24/7, it pretty quickly becomes active whenever a demon slayer or demon starts fighting. Hantengu fear haxed Tanjiro off of looking at him and Tanjiro recovered BECAUSE he had resistance to Fear Manipulation, Daki initially fear haxed Tanjiro, etc.

Yoriichi walks up to BoBoiBoy and scares him because of Battle Spirit Fear Manipulation, which causes his body to stop moving completely and then they stay like that for 24 hours and Yoriichi wins because of SBA.

Yes, Yoriichi can stand still for 24 hours. He held the corpses of his wife and child for 10 days straight and massively upscales from his child self who can run for a day straight.
Before I get on with my rebuttal (or if there is a chance I may not need it). Riddle me this: does this battle spirit also affect beings made entirely of energy?
 
No

Edit: Maybe? Not sure if Battle Spirit would need any type of special ability to interact with beings made of energy. It's Fear Hax. If they can feel fear they will get affected by Battle Spirit
 
No

Edit: Maybe? Not sure if Battle Spirit would need any type of special ability to interact with beings made of energy. It's Fear Hax. If they can feel fear they will get affected by Battle Spirit
If that's the case. Then he won't be able to use it on BoBoiBoy.
 
Don’t think a limited fear manip that paralyzes people on a biological level or whatever, and isn’t magic bs, can effectively affect an inorganic being, can it? Just like how paralysis at cellular doesn’t work on a robotic body at all.
 
BoBoiBoy is paralyzed because of the Fear Manipulation. It basically scares BoBoiBoy into not moving. Battle Spirit is also indexed on the profile as Chi so...
Chi—that is present on an organic body. Also, I doubt Demon Slayer had something equivalent to "chi is in everything" type thing. Aside from that practically every Demon Slayer ability including aura based ones have something to do with affecting targets on the cellular level which would produce null results on a nature of something that has more in common with a rock than an actual organic human.
 
Also, I doubt Demon Slayer had something equivalent to "chi is in everything" type thing.
It does
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Everyone has Battle Spirit as confirmed by Akaza. Battle Spirit is indexed as Chi in vs battles. The only way to remove Fighting Spirit is to go into Selfless State.
Aside from that practically every Demon Slayer ability including aura based ones have something to do with affecting targets on the cellular level which would produce null results on a nature of something that has more in common with a rock than an actual organic human.
This is just flat out wrong and demonstrably false. With what empirical evidence did you use to come to that conclusion? Enmu has Sleep Manipulation, Doma has Ice Manipulation, Emotion Clones can use Sound Manipulation, Lightning Strikes, Air Manipulation, and Wood Manipulation. A low tier demon literally has Vector Manipulation.

Battle Spirit is shown to effect other people without the use of biological or cellular manipulations. Zohakuten looked at Tanjiro and induced fear into him. Kokushibo did the same thing to Muichiro and Yoriichi to Kokushibo.
Those three examples of Fear Manipulation had nothing to do with manipulating biology or body chemicals to cause fear, and it wasn't described as such. You are confusing the results of the Fear Manipulation with the method of how it works. Battle Spirit is NOT manipulating a person's biology and brain chemicals to be scare them. Battle Spirit is scaring a person using Chi and Aura and that fear causes the person's body to experience multiple negative effects (shaking, shuddering, heart stopping, etc). Whatever happens afterward is the product of that fear, but the fact remains is that the person is scared.

Just because BoBoiBoy doesn't have organic parts doesn't mean he wouldn't be scared, it just means his heart will keep beating and he wouldn't be shuddering. He'll still get scared because of the Fear Manipulation and he will be unable to move because of that fear. The Paralysis Inducement is a package deal that comes with the Fear Manipulation.
In short, indirectly. Without taking Supernatural Willpower into account.
I didn't see Supernatural Willpower on BoBoiBoy's profile, and even if he did, his Willpower would need to show that it can overcome Fear Manipulation.
 
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Anyways if fear and paralysis can be turned moot, we can move onto the more interesting part:
It does
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Everyone has Battle Spirit as confirmed by Akaza. Battle Spirit is indexed as Chi in vs battles. The only way to remove Fighting Spirit is to go into Selfless State.

This is just flat out wrong and demonstrably false. With what empirical evidence did you use to come to that conclusion? Enmu has Sleep Manipulation, Doma has Ice Manipulation, Emotion Clones can use Sound Manipulation, Lightning Strikes, Air Manipulation, and Wood Manipulation. A low tier demon literally has Vector Manipulation.

Battle Spirit is shown to effect other people without the use of biological or cellular manipulations. Zohakuten looked at Tanjiro and induced fear into him. Kokushibo did the same thing to Muichiro and Yoriichi to Kokushibo.

Those three examples of Fear Manipulation had nothing to do with manipulating biology or body chemicals to cause fear, and it wasn't described as such. You are confusing the results of the Fear Manipulation with the method of how it works. Battle Spirit is NOT manipulating a person's biology and brain chemicals to be scare them. Battle Spirit is scaring a person using Chi and Aura and that fear causes the person's body to experience multiple negative effects (shaking, shuddering, heart stopping, etc). Whatever happens afterward is the product of that fear, but the fact remains is that the person is scared.

Just because BoBoiBoy doesn't have organic parts doesn't mean he wouldn't be scared, it just means his heart will keep beating and he wouldn't be shuddering. He'll still get scared because of the Fear Manipulation and he will be unable to move because of that fear. The Paralysis Inducement is a package deal that comes with the Fear Manipulation.
Fair enough, but for a little nitpicking on the last part: there would be no heart to stop when he lacks it after splitting.
I didn't see Supernatural Willpower on BoBoiBoy's profile, and even if he did, his Willpower would need to show that it can overcome Fear Manipulation.
Not necessarily. As discussed in 1st page of: https://vsbattles.com/threads/boboiboy-vs-guldan-0-0-6.167097/

Note: Supernatural Willpower was placed in the wrong tab for many months. Apologies for that.
 
Anyways if fear and paralysis can be turned moot,
It can't.
Not necessarily. As discussed in 1st page of: https://vsbattles.com/threads/boboiboy-vs-guldan-0-0-6.167097/

Note: Supernatural Willpower was placed in the wrong tab for many months. Apologies for that.
In that same Thread you provided no proof for BoBoiBoy resisting fear hax.
Elaborate the range. Supernatural willpower can deal with fear, searing agony on the other hand depends how painful its effects are. (His untransformed self which is practically baseline human could brush off having his front side seared temporarily by lava's heat.)
Enough to hit at SBA.

Supernatural Willpower requires proof of specific hax resistance if the hax isn't specifically dealt with in-verse by willpower.

Enough pain to make Demons who shrug off missing limbs and shit actually be physically hurt by the amount of it.
It dealt with madness, illusions and mind hax resulting from his own powers before.
But not fear hax?
Point is, with the examples shown there is without a doubt his supernatural willpower will be able to overcome this other emotion that is present on the emotional spectrum.
You have a positive claim. Show empirical evidence that BoBoiBoy is able to overcome Fear Hax with his supernatural willpower, because nowhere does it say that he can overcome fear in his Supernatural Willpower. Just that he can overcome madness and Illusions.
The madness and illusions aren't caused by fear. Yoriichi's Battle Spirit and what BoBoiBoy resists aren't the same thing. As of now, BoBoiBoy is still getting fear haxed.
Considering he's 7-C and lacks dura neg is Yoriichi "fighting" here through literal hype/aura alone?
Yes, either that or Yoriichi dodge gods BoBoiBoy for days on end and wins through Stamina.
 
Congratulations you just shot yourself in the foot, How does Thrall win against him again?
Can't Thrall continually exert himself for weeks on end?
Stamina: Superhuman (Thrall is a practically tireless orc who can use the elements for weeks to stabilize entire spatial rifts, and endure grievous wounds alongside being poisoned to walk for hours to a Horde encampment)
 
Demon Slayer isn't accepted as having layered fear and paralysis hax.
Woah woah wait. I wanted to ask how many layers Thrall has on Fear Manipulation. Yoriichi has a solid 3 or 4 layers to his fear hax.

I can find someone before you wake up tomorrow
uhuh. Took me less than a minute to find you saying he does in my general tournament page.
 
I said that because I meant that WHEN a CRT passes to give layered fear hax, then Yoriichi will have 3 or 4 layers, but otherwise, Yoriichi has no layers, so I can't say that his is layered without being accepted in a CRT. There's also a really long time before said CRT passes so it's not going to change mid-tournament for example. If it does, I will accept the disqualification without issue.
 
I said that because I meant that WHEN a CRT passes to give layered fear hax, then Yoriichi will have 3 or 4 layers, but otherwise, Yoriichi has no layers, so I can't say that his is layered without being accepted in a CRT. There's also a really long time before said CRT passes so it's not going to change mid-tournament for example. If it does, I will accept the disqualification without issue.
So, let me get this Straight: You put a character you know for a fact is outdated in an area into a tournament? Anything stalling the CRT?
 
So, let me get this Straight: You put a character you know for a fact is outdated in an area into a tournament?
I mean, I saw the Shiftling being eligible despite Nioh 2 was abandoned and needing revisions so I thought Yoriichi was okay because of that.
Anything stalling the CRT?
No one's working on it and it'll most likely come as a package deal with a bunch of other revisions for Demon Slayer.
 
I personally would've disallowed Yoriichi from this tournament but since he's here oh well I guess. Does he has an answer to Boboiboy's danmaku that seems pretty crazy.
 
I mean, I saw the Shiftling being eligible despite Nioh 2 was abandoned and needing revisions so I thought Yoriichi was okay because of that.
Because at least Shiftling is only Nioh 1 and thus has nothing MISSING from it's profile from the game that's being argued.
No one's working on it and it'll most likely come as a package deal with a bunch of other revisions for Demon Slayer.
And how many of these affect Yoriichi?
In any case, if Yoruiichi is gonna get disqualified, might as well use a back up for the match.
Believe me I'm considering it.
 
Does BoiBoiBoy even start with danmaku?
More than half of the time. In fact, 3 out of 5 of his elements specializes in Danmaku and the other 2 that don't, are still capable of pulling off the same level of danmaku as the other 3 (with just fewer options available).
 
First thing Muzan noted after seeing Yoriichi was that he possesed not an ounce of battle spirit or hostility, and he certainly wasn't scaring Muzan. Even against Kokushibo all Yoriichi's aura did was make him feel fear a little, and you can argue that's due to Kokushibo already knowing what Yoriichi is capable of beforehand. So Yoriichi's battle aura is completely useless here, he simply loses. (He's a 7-C with no dura neg in a 7-A tournament)
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